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Doubledealer25 wrote:you sons a bitches! tell us the story! .........

By far the best quote in this entire thread. Ha ha ha

I go into this with lowered expectations. Very low low low expectations. And I predict 1 gimmick, 3D. Cameron is ending this year with a big effects driven 3d film, and I think its going to start a trend. And Bay strikes me as the kind of guy who can't pass up blowing something up in I-MAX format in 3D. Just for the hell of saying he did so.

And Megan Fox will now have multiple robots humping her legs because of her quips. And at least one makeout scene with a fem bot....that being Alice because we all know no one dies in these films.

Brillian, approved, next!

-Josh

If Bay does go 3D --it will not be for the whole movie. Just select scenes --esp. with only 2 yrs. to make it.

HP6, GI Joe and TF1 were all better than TF2. And I saw ROTF 3 times, being the diehard fan. It was almost too much fighting and action with no story/character development to make the fights more meaningful. Character development? Oh yeah, i forgot, this was a Michael Bay movie. Eye candy and mindless action are all that matters.

All I'm saying, & i'll reiterate this again -think of all he could do with another year; more time to shoot, more time to render CG, more time to polish the story/rework it if necessary, no last minute super-rushed final cut editing like Bay had to do in early June before it went to Japan for the premiere. What's wrong with more time? Paramount is rushing the **** out of this b/c they have nothing good for the 2011 summer line up and what was in the pipeline got ruined during the strike.
When TF3 comes out and winds up being a horrible abomination - all those pro 2 year people will be sorry.

Autobot032 wrote:Stuff aimed at D-340.

You know I laughed so hard when I read your post, I almost wet myself. So by your logic, money=quality. So then, you must think that Kanye West is a musical genius and Paris Hilton actually serves a purpose.

No, sir, just cuz ROTF made a metric sh*t ton of money, doesn't make it a quality film, and it most certainly is no where near better than TF 1(it had it's flaws, but it was good). It just means that there are millions of suckers out there that'll gobble up what they're fed en mass. It was a critical failure, but it got spun around in a way that the critics were just outta touch. And while I almost always disagree with movie critics, with ROTF I think they hit the nail on the head. While I felt the robot action was great, everything else flat out sucked.

And I'm getting really sick and tired of the whole"it's a toyline, it's not Oscar quality, blah blah blah" arguments. This is how you defend a crappy movie, by slamming it's origins cuz it's a toyline, and then you have the nerve to call yourself a fan? No, I don't think it needs to be up there with LOTR and such, but I would like a decent movie. Not just pretty CG, explosions and T and A. How's about a little plot. ROTF, was great in theory, especially with the Solar Harvester angle(which is obviously based on the Solar Needle, which was, GASP, a plot line from G1 episode. TAKE THAT G1 HATERS!), but very poorly executed. How's about some character development for the titular characters of the film, and not a bunch of what's supposed to be supporting cast. Yeah, it's a toyline. But last I checked, it's called TRANSFORMERS, not The Sam and Mikeala love story with some giant robots from outer space. Yeah, it's a toyline, one that thrived for 25+ years on being based on it's namesakes. Take any one of the TF series that has come and gone, not just G1. While it is most certainly aimed at children, the Transformers themselves were the main focus, not the supporting cast. And with BW/BM and Animated, the story telling was top notch, while still being aimed at kids, adults(like myself) could enjoy it as well with out feeling like they being dummied down. And that's what these live action movies are doing exactly, we as fans have to dummy ourselves down to enjoy it. Because, after all, it's only a toyline, what do we expect? No sir, sorry. That argument don't fly with me, or many other fans for that matter. Again, we don't need Oscar caliber material, but don't insult our collective intelligence cuz it's based on a toyline.

LOL, you posters are funny. All you do is bitch bitch bitch. ITS **** HOLLYWOOD, OF COURSE ITS GOING TO SUCK FOR YOU GUYS! BAY ISN'T GOING TO MAKE EVERY DETAIL FOR YOU ****!





ONE LAST MOTHER **** THING! AWWWWW GETTING MARRIED. BLEEEEEGH! **** MARRIAGE AND LOVE!

AND NO I"M NOT A EMO/GOTH, JUST AN ASSHOLE WHOLE LIKES TRANSFORMERS BUT STARTING TO HATE YOU ****! OH AND BRING ON THE VULGAR COTENT AND LANGUAGE!!! ****! YOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOU!

I concur with D-340. The amount of $ a movie makes is not proportionate to its quality. Examples - Godfathers I and II -cinematic masterworks, didn't lose $, but didn't make a crap ton. Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Shining, Dr. Strangelove, etc. -all high quality films, but didn't make boatloads of $. But getting back to my point, all that D-340 said was pretty much right on.

vectorA3 wrote:I concur with D-340. The amount of $ a movie makes is not proportionate to its quality. Examples - Godfathers I and II -cinematic masterworks, didn't lose $, but didn't make a crap ton. Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Shining, Dr. Strangelove, etc. -all high quality films, but didn't make boatloads of $. But getting back to my point, all that D-340 said was pretty much right on.

The money proves there's at least SOME quality. He says none.

He's wrong.

Blurrz wrote:Wow, so many ridiculous bay haters. First of all, Michael Bay doesn't care what anyone thinks, it is all about the money, and he'll do whatever he wants to do. Most of the stuff that happens on the scene is directed by him. The rest; The script, the designs, they're approved by Bay, but they're made by generically everyone else. If you're hating on Bay, you're hating on every Transformer fan that's worked to design the 2007 Movie as well as Revenge of the Fallen.

I'm tired of hearing this disenchanted crap. If all you are doing is complaining, then just don't bother showing up here. It isn't going to change and being hopeful for a 'better' movie in 2011 is nonsense, because it's directed by the same person, it will be in the same dimensions!

Put G1 in? How about this. G1's dead. It died a good 20 years ago. Bringing it back into the live film is like redoing Star Wars. This is what it is, a Transformers Universe on it's own. If you think Bay's giving Transformers a bad name, then you clearly have a short sense of time and memory. Transformers has existed for over 25 years, we've had good series, some bad series, yet all in all it brings fans, new and old, together to celebrate something that they enjoy.

Bay doesn't acknowledge Transformers lore? What? There's rules now? Like honestly, when the hell did that happen? If there were to be any rules in Transformers, Bay has acknowledged them all. Transformers transform. They interact with humans. They come from Cybertron. There are Autobots and Decepticons and they fight each other. Bay's representation of Transformers is as genuine as Animated's representation of the characters or Energon's representation of the characters. It is what it is, T-R-A-N-S-F-O-R-M-E-R-S.

Hate isn't going to get anywhere here. Michael Bay is still making Transformers 3, he'll make hundreds of millons, and Transformers will continue on in series after series. The best that can be done for you haters is not seeing the movie, and leaving news like this for people who enjoy Bay's work.

I for one, look forward to Transformers 3. Every bit of the universe that revolves around the Live Movies is an exciting change compared to the 2D characters we've seen for the past decades.

to be honest when the 2007 movie came out I just wanted a good g1 remake cartoon. Face it the animation was sloppy,sounds skiped,and it was the 80s! plus my knowlenge of transformers only went so far in 2007 so when they siad barricade and black out I was like wtf? then I went why is ironhide black and rachet green? what have you doooonnneee!? I have to say I like the acual tf figures its just that damn $h!ty acting! you know what I hate bay films not the formers (great insperational speech) I think that my understandings on the transformers timeline got bigger too (over the years)thats why I "get" the characters hasbro spoose out

Superior Prime09 wrote:LOL, you posters are funny. All you do is bitch bitch bitch. ITS **** HOLLYWOOD, OF COURSE ITS GOING TO SUCK FOR YOU GUYS! BAY ISN'T GOING TO MAKE EVERY DETAIL FOR YOU ****!





ONE LAST MOTHER **** THING! AWWWWW GETTING MARRIED. BLEEEEEGH! **** MARRIAGE AND LOVE!

AND NO I"M NOT A EMO/GOTH, JUST AN ASSHOLE WHOLE LIKES TRANSFORMERS BUT STARTING TO HATE YOU ****! OH AND BRING ON THE VULGAR COTENT AND LANGUAGE!!! ****! YOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOU!

Awwww,
Somebody needs a hug!!!!!!

Yeah, that guy had a kremzeek up his %^&$

I don't want another one, I had enough of these Bay movies on Transformers. I really hoped he ended with the second one. I really don't want Bay near Transformers ever again.