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Rial Vestro wrote:Agreed and what are the chances of him actully takeing that same damage again?

There is no rule in the universe that prevents an attack on the same spot twice, so the chances are actually very, very good.

Rial Vestro wrote:"He's not fully healed from the last time and can only talk a little bit." makes alot more sence and actully seems like they put more thought into it but we'll wait till the movie actully comes out to find out.

But that's probably what happened.

Shadowman wrote:

Rial Vestro wrote:Agreed and what are the chances of him actully takeing that same damage again?

There is no rule in the universe that prevents an attack on the same spot twice, so the chances are actually very, very good.

Wrong!

For one thing I never said it absolutly couldn't happen I was simply saying that it was verry unlikely.

And there is a saying about lightining never strikes twice in the same place. I don't really belive that but I do think it's just an exadgerated statement meaning that it's really unlikely to strike in the same place twice or that it would never hit the same place multiple times in a row.

Unless some Decepticon is intentionally attacking Bumblebee just to damage his vocal processor it's highly unlikely that he would take that kind of damage twice. And wouldn't it be the Decepticon's goal to kill Bumblebee not just damage his voice box? That seems more bully-ish than evil war monger.

It's alot more likely that Bumblebee would have his legs choped off a second time than to have a damaged voice box a second time.

To put it another way, if you randomly throw a dart at a map of the U.S. you're more likely to hit one of the larger states like Texas or Alaska than you are to hit Rhode Island or one of the hawian islands. Unless you take the dart and intentionally jam it into the map where you want it you may never even hit any of the smaller areas.

Bumblebee's voice box would be a rather small target compaired to his legs and therefore about as likely to be damaged as a small state on a map is likely to be hit by a thrown dart.

Rial Vestro wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Rial Vestro wrote:Agreed and what are the chances of him actully takeing that same damage again?

There is no rule in the universe that prevents an attack on the same spot twice, so the chances are actually very, very good.

Wrong!

For one thing I never said it absolutly couldn't happen I was simply saying that it was verry unlikely.

Well, you'd still be wrong. If you punched someone's face in a fight, chances are, if you were to fight them a second time, you would again punch them in the face.

Bumblebee's vocal processor is in his neck, it's a safe assumption that someone would attack there twice. Perhaps a Decepticon had attacked him, but had been shot dead after only damaging his vocal processor.

I'd like to point out here, that even if you're not hit in exactly the same place twice, it's still a problem.

Shot a guy in the lower leg, then a few weeks later watch him complain as he whacks his upper leg into a coffee table.

Megatron ripped out Bumblebees vocal processor, of course it's going to hurt when he's shot anywhere near there! Even by accident.

As far as a continuity error goes, we haven't seen the film yet, how can we say Bay won't throw in a "Hows his voice doing? Not too well, that mission last month really pushed his healing back..." line or something similar?
They're professional writers, editors and directors, give them some credit, and a chance.

Maybe its me, but I don't understand the big deal here. Everyone's dissecting 3 seconds of a movie clip - how it could've happened, probability, etc etc. I'm more willing to accept him losing his voice when the story picks up 2 years later in TF2. This I think will be somehow explained in the story. In fact, in one of the trailers, Mikela even says to Sam, "he still can't talk, hunh?" I'm confident this will play out.

I have a greater issue with the first movie. They never explained how Bee went from not talking in the beginning, to suddenly talking at the very end. For me, that's just as big of a story gap as anything, but this point has only come up in one or 2 posts on this topic.

Bigger problem - the fact that the title of this thread has "sequel" spelled with an "i". WTF?

Autobot Firestorm wrote:
Bigger problem - the fact that the title of this thread has "sequel" spelled with an "i". WTF?

Proper grammar is not a requirement to be allowed on the internet, much less to register at this board. Everyone makes grammatical mistakes once in a while. Which is why I hadn't pointed that mistake out before.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Autobot Firestorm wrote:
Bigger problem - the fact that the title of this thread has "sequel" spelled with an "i". WTF?

Proper grammar is not a requirement to be allowed on the internet, much less to register at this board. Everyone makes grammatical mistakes once in a while. Which is why I hadn't pointed that mistake out before.

I agree - but my point was all about giving a crap when you shouldn't. I always overlook that stuff too. We have no details as to why Bee doesn't have his voice - who the frak cares at this point? If the story doesn't address why he doesn't have his voice - then sound off. There seems to be a little problem of premature critizism.

Again, the title says "POSSIBLE" not "Bay screwed up again the movie is definatly going to suck, Bumblebee for sure can't talk at all."

If you got a problem with speculating what could be a possibility why did you come in this topic in the first place? No one's saying that this is absolutly going to happen a sertain way but you're sure makeing it sound that way the way you're complaining about it.

If you have a problem with speculation then don't post in here.

Rial Vestro wrote:Again, the title says "POSSIBLE" not "Bay screwed up again the movie is definatly going to suck, Bumblebee for sure can't talk at all."

If you got a problem with speculating what could be a possibility why did you come in this topic in the first place? No one's saying that this is absolutly going to happen a sertain way but you're sure makeing it sound that way the way you're complaining about it.

If you have a problem with speculation then don't post in here.

I guess I should have been more sensitive to your needs.
Here, I know my wife uses these when she talks like that. http://www.kotex.com/na/Products.aspx

Enjoy!

I dont know if you havent seen this but there is an extended trailer...sam and mikela...walk in and bee is hitting himself...sam says 'having voice problems??'
bee nodding. i think that would explain it...perhaps ratchets laser doesnt work effectivly...but then again, when frenzy regenerated himself with the allspark...why didnt bumlebee...assuming that wouldve work, later in the extened trailer, when bee finds out he's not going, he starts to 'cry' which u can see, i suppose that would be some form of oil..leaking out his face, i dont have a URL atm but if you search around im sure you'll find the trailer.

This thread is starting to down hill quickly.

You mean "starting to go downhill quickly."

Rodimus Prime wrote:You mean "starting to go downhill quickly."

hahaha. yes, the word "go" would certainly help my sentence.

Autobot Firestorm wrote:I guess I should have been more sensitive to your needs.
Here, I know my wife uses these when she talks like that. http://www.kotex.com/na/Products.aspx

Enjoy!

See, this post is just so completely wrong.

We have rules, they're posted in GD, go have a read of them. You may not agree with another member of this site, you may not even like them, but to belittle them like this? So very wrong.

Anyway, as stated, Bumblebee's lack of voice has been explained in the prequel comics, and we can speculate until the cows come home whether it will be in the movie or not, but seeing as this thread is going downhill, i'm going to lock it.

Once the movie comes out we can have the discussion again and see if the movie marries up to the prequel comics.

First Gen wrote:when Mikaela asked Sam about it to which he told her "He's playing it off".

The original question of the thread was answered a page ago but got glossed over. In the showest footage of that scene sam says that he is playing it up, meaning that he's pretending just to get some sympathy.

Isn't it anoying when the comics and books are better than the films...

smiggy3000 wrote:Isn't it anoying when the comics and books are better than the films...

Not for me. I would much rather read a story and use my own imagination than watch it on TV. Reading takes longer and is more involving. In the case of the Transformers, the comics are better, though I prefer the movie to the book adaptation.