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Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

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Re: Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

Postby Bed Bugs » Sat May 10, 2008 3:43 am

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Re: Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

Postby An_de » Sat May 10, 2008 12:35 pm

Saber Prime wrote:Why would he send out a distress call at all if he was a Decepticon? It doesn't make any sence if you're a Decepticon to call the Autobots for help in a Decepticon attack.

Because he wouldn't want to be suspected if he IS the traitor :P And wouldn't it be weird if Ironhide WASN'T shot? I mean - if the Decepticons spared only his life it would be too obvious. I think they pretended to shoot him in order to blow him out of the "suspected Autobot Traitors" list :D
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Re: Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

Postby Agent 007 » Sat May 10, 2008 12:44 pm

Also this would be the 1st Transformers show in history that would not have Combiners such as Devestator or Link-Ups such as Optimus Prime and Jet Fire aka Jet Convoy from Transformers Armada which was wicked cool.
Umm no beast wars didn't have either of those
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Re: Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

Postby Shadowman » Sat May 10, 2008 4:47 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:Why would he send out a distress call at all if he was a Decepticon? It doesn't make any sence if you're a Decepticon to call the Autobots for help in a Decepticon attack.

Because he wouldn't want to be suspected if he IS the traitor :P And wouldn't it be weird if Ironhide WASN'T shot? I mean - if the Decepticons spared only his life it would be too obvious. I think they pretended to shoot him in order to blow him out of the "suspected Autobot Traitors" list :D


Ironhide was on the Galactic Rim. Megatron said the double-spy was on Cybertron. There's a difference.
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Re: Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

Postby Lockdown72 » Sat May 10, 2008 5:15 pm

Shadowman wrote:I'm quite sure she is a techno-organic something-or-other. More organic than Blackarachnia, more techno than a normal person. (Which is why she's a lot less awkward around machines than she is around normal people)


Well, I don't agree with the 'cyborg' theory in the idea she's more comfortable with robots than most. You should factor in that however long Sumdac was her 'father', Sari has been mostly raised by machines, like Tudor Bot, the private teaching/whipping fodder :lol: robot, and that this is sometime in the future where robots and humans work almost side by side (the 'bots all get the worst jobs like cleaning mall toilets :roll: :P ), so there is a general lack of fear of robots in the populace of Detroit (untill the Decepticons inevitably blow something up in some awesome manner :mrgreen: )

primeoptimus wrote:the autobot traitor could be either swindle or ironhide.
my opinion is that it is ironhide faking that video feed somehow and its all a trap.


Swindle makes sense, but I doubt it's Ironhide. If he faked a video saying he was being shot at on the Galactic Rim, someone would be bound to notice, either in the form of "Hey, how did you get back here?" or "Hey, we didn't send you out there."[/quote]

Not Ironhide. If he was, WHY exactly would his 'allies' start destroying a space bridge? Last I checked, space bridges wren't easy to make. My vote is for Shocky or Swindle. I think Shocky is supposed to be incogneto as some Autobot in one future ep., and if Swindle is G1 as his ancestor, he could probably sweet talk his way into a critical position in Autobot heriarchy easily.

Hey, what if Animated brings back Punch/Counterpunch? A double double agent maybe? :-B
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Re: Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat May 10, 2008 7:34 pm

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I have Beast Wars, Beast Machines, G1 all of it original Rhino set, All of Armada, Cybertron is recorded so is Energon and I have all of Animated recorded up to the lasted episode Garbage In, Garbage Out. I am Wreck-Gar I am only good for one thing GARBAGE!!!! I dare to be Stupid best lines yet in a TF-Animated episode.

They were in Beastwars powerups such as the Transmetals and Fuzors if you remember Optimus Primal, Rattrap Cheetor Megatron so on got new upgrades but for some reason Rhinox did not get upgraded and he remained the same the whole show and was only diffrent in Beast-Machines cause something happened to his spark.

The reason I still have Energon recorded is because it will be along time before of if it will be on DVD Box Set. But if Cybertron does good maybe they will get it out sooner I am getting the Cybertron Box Set so I will do away with my recorded ones.

I forgot about Shockwave being in it and I am going with him being in it he seems to be on the level of a Percepitor intllegince level and would be a perfect double spy. Also I think that Ironhide is acting funny sometimes he could also be another spy. Cool I didnt know BB had a brother cant wait to see it the New Autobots are coming out of the woodworks I am digging the new designs plus OMEGA SUPREME may even be on sometime in Season 3 also WASPINATOR as a autobot how cool is that. Plus how cool is Galvatron going to look I mean I cant wait bring it on man this show rules.

Now if they only get into the Sari Subplot I will be happy plus Starscream gets his old G1 colors how bad ass will this be man. But I wonder if they will be some sort of Ultimate new Bad Guy someone bigger and Badder than Unicron was.
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Re: Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

Postby Saber Prime » Sun May 11, 2008 1:17 am

Rodimus2006 wrote:They were in Beastwars powerups such as the Transmetals and Fuzors if you remember Optimus Primal, Rattrap Cheetor Megatron so on got new upgrades but for some reason Rhinox did not get upgraded and he remained the same the whole show and was only diffrent in Beast-Machines cause something happened to his spark.


No one said Beast Wars didn't have power ups, what we did say was that they didn't have gestalt teams.

Allthough I consider "Power Ups" and "Upgrades" to be two completly different things. Upgrade would be getting an entirely new form where as a "Power Up" the only physical change is your color scheme.
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Re: Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

Postby Skice » Sun May 11, 2008 5:00 am

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Shadowman wrote:I'm actually betting on Shockwave. He's smart enough to not blow his cover, and is probably just as loyal to Megatron as Lugnut.

Is that even possible? I mean Lugnut is obsessed with Megatron. I'm talking "I'm so obsessed with you I broke into your house and burned my name and phone number into your bedroom wall" obsessed.
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Re: Sari Sumdaac & Decipticon Double-Spy in TF-Animated ????

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 11, 2008 2:17 pm

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Shadowman wrote:I'm actually betting on Shockwave. He's smart enough to not blow his cover, and is probably just as loyal to Megatron as Lugnut.

Is that even possible? I mean Lugnut is obsessed with Megatron. I'm talking "I'm so obsessed with you I broke into your house and burned my name and phone number into your bedroom wall" obsessed.


Okay...maybe not that loyal. I'd really like to see Shockwave as the only Decepticon Megatron shows any respect too. Like a brother kind of relationship.
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