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Skyfire in Siege scale would just be the old Leader size which I doubt is off the table since we see radical height differences in Studio Series Leaders. Skyfire would be a fairly simple figure so what he lacks in complexity and parts count could be made up with in mass.

I like the idea of a proper Sky Lynx with the electronics replaced with proper joints. However since Omega Supreme is expected to double as Countdown's shuttle base I doubt we'll get two space shuttles and launch pads in the same line.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Skyfire in Siege scale would just be the old Leader size which I doubt is off the table since we see radical height differences in Studio Series Leaders. Skyfire would be a fairly simple figure so what he lacks in complexity and parts count could be made up with in mass.
Emerje

What I'm imagining is a baseline robot that's roughly the size of T30 Jetfire, so that in robot mode he's roughly half again the height of a Voyager, but comes with a lot of add on parts proportional to those included with the Leader Class Siege figures.

The commander class figure is probably just Primus/Cybertron tho knowing my luck it will be a new version of a figure that I don't want (Star Sabre -have MP, Skylynx-have Encore/CW, Jetfire -which is an oddity as I would like a G1 style toy eventually and as much as I enjoy Macross VF's and can never have enough of them, maybe the robotech kickstarter scarred me way more than I thought it had o.O).

To say siege had a price increase/proposeed costs of Omega, some of the prices lowered over here £17 for deluxes previously £18, leaders £47 previously £50. With less stores stocking them and even those retail stores that do like Smyths, do not stock in quantity so online orders are not possible. Amazon.uk doesnt even stock them, so buying through a third party seller is £24+ for deluxes! Expecting Omega to not be available in stores and around £160-£180 which then makes it more appealing to go third party

blackeyedprime wrote:The commander class figure is probably just Primus/Cybertron tho knowing my luck it will be a new version of a figure that I don't want (Star Sabre -have MP, Skylynx-have Encore/CW, Jetfire -which is an oddity as I would like a G1 style toy eventually and as much as I enjoy Macross VF's and can never have enough of them, maybe the robotech kickstarter scarred me way more than I thought it had o.O).

To say siege had a price increase/proposeed costs of Omega, some of the prices lowered over here £17 for deluxes previously £18, leaders £47 previously £50. With less stores stocking them and even those retail stores that do like Smyths, do not stock in quantity so online orders are not possible. Amazon.uk doesnt even stock them, so buying through a third party seller is £24+ for deluxes! Expecting Omega to not be available in stores and around £160-£180 which then makes it more appealing to go third party

The UK tf scene is getting a bit dire if you stick to retail have you looked at prices on kapow/indemand/Forbidden Planet?

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The UK tf scene is getting a bit dire if you stick to retail have you looked at prices on kapow/indemand/Forbidden Planet?[/quote]

Yeagh Kapow & ID are the first places I check & usually order from, TFS express (omegalock) is another option as well.

Emerje wrote:Skyfire in Siege scale would just be the old Leader size which I doubt is off the table since we see radical height differences in Studio Series Leaders.

I really quite like the Thrilling 30 Leader Class Jetfire, even though a lot of fans think of it as hollow and flimsy with "cheap" plastic. Now that the Leader Class size has been "downscaled" for SIEGE, T30 Jetfire looks closer to scale with everyone else, but he honestly should be even bigger to really fit the cartoon scale. I wouldn't at all be opposed to a Jetfire somewhere down the line that's maybe a bit taller than a CW/PotP standard combiner but still smaller than a Titan Class Devastator or Predaking. A wolfman can dream, right?

Maybe an upscaled Astrotrain, Blitzwing or Octane could also fit into a new size class? SIEGE Triple Changers could be quite interesting with the gimmick of Weaponising.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Maybe an upscaled Astrotrain, Blitzwing or Octane could also fit into a new size class? SIEGE Triple Changers could be quite interesting with the gimmick of Weaponising.

Astrotrain maybe, no way for the other two. Hasbro is trying to get robot mode scale reasonaly accurate, and making one of the Decepticon triple changers that much bigger than the others just wouldn't work. I think it is possible that it might be Broadside though.

Was broadside that much bigger in robot mode?

ZeroWolf wrote:Was broadside that much bigger in robot mode?

If I remember correctly, he once had a fist fight with Devastator in the ocean. Even if we are dialing his size back he should still probably be bigger than Jetfire/Skyfire.

blackeyedprime wrote:The commander class figure is probably just Primus/Cybertron

Two reasons why it isn't Primus or Unicron:

1. Scale. Bot mode scale matters now, those guys are way too small to be released again at mass retail (i.e. not as exclusives).
2. Price. The price of $120 CAD or about $91 USD is too low when TLK Primus was $150 USD and I think Platinum Unicron was $130 USD.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:The commander class figure is probably just Primus/Cybertron

Two reasons why it isn't Primus or Unicron:

1. Scale. Bot mode scale matters now, those guys are way too small to be released again at mass retail (i.e. not as exclusives).
2. Price. The price of $120 CAD or about $91 USD is too low when TLK Primus was $150 USD and I think Platinum Unicron was $130 USD.

Emerje

Thats cool tha the pricing rules out just another repainted Primuus, but I dont think scale is still all that important to the line (reflector being a deluxe)

blackeyedprime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:The commander class figure is probably just Primus/Cybertron

Two reasons why it isn't Primus or Unicron:

1. Scale. Bot mode scale matters now, those guys are way too small to be released again at mass retail (i.e. not as exclusives).
2. Price. The price of $120 CAD or about $91 USD is too low when TLK Primus was $150 USD and I think Platinum Unicron was $130 USD.

Emerje

Thats cool tha the pricing rules out just another repainted Primuus, but I dont think scale is still all that important to the line (reflector being a deluxe)

To be fair reflecktor is going to be a small deluxe as so much of his plastic allocation is going to the accessory to form the barrel of the combined camera mode.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Maybe an upscaled Astrotrain, Blitzwing or Octane could also fit into a new size class? SIEGE Triple Changers could be quite interesting with the gimmick of Weaponising.

Astrotrain maybe, no way for the other two. Hasbro is trying to get robot mode scale reasonaly accurate, and making one of the Decepticon triple changers that much bigger than the others just wouldn't work. I think it is possible that it might be Broadside though.

Realistically, making him physically bigger is the only way they are going to solve the many problems with Broadside as a figure. They couldn't have picked two more disparate alt-modes for him

ZeroWolf wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:The commander class figure is probably just Primus/Cybertron

Two reasons why it isn't Primus or Unicron:

1. Scale. Bot mode scale matters now, those guys are way too small to be released again at mass retail (i.e. not as exclusives).
2. Price. The price of $120 CAD or about $91 USD is too low when TLK Primus was $150 USD and I think Platinum Unicron was $130 USD.

Emerje

Thats cool tha the pricing rules out just another repainted Primuus, but I dont think scale is still all that important to the line (reflector being a deluxe)

To be fair reflecktor is going to be a small deluxe as so much of his plastic allocation is going to the accessory to form the barrel of the combined camera mode.

Also, if you take another look a the original cartoon and some of the Sunbow art and scaling guides, Reflector should be bigger than a modern Legends Class figure and only just a bit smaller than a typical modern Deluxe Class figure. He's much taller than any of Soundwave's minions, taller than the Insecticons, taller than the Autobot Minibots, but just a bit shorter than the Autobot cars.

Caelus wrote:Two other characters that would make sense given the physical scale of the line: Skyfire (with UA and weapons) or Sky Lynx.

So happy to be right.

He looks nice. They actually managed to make him incorporate everything into his design too.