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So why'd the outcry about Prime's faceplate die down so quickly?

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So why'd the outcry about Prime's faceplate die down so quickly?

Postby Miken Ayers » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:00 pm

It's obvious they didn't change it to him having it on all the time. Besides the rants about that were too funny.
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Postby Nico » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:07 pm

1) because we can't do anything about it...
2) Because it ain't THAT bad after all...
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Postby Sonray » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:28 pm

Because no one cares anymore and after all the fanboy ranting people have realized that Prime with a mouth is actually a good idea, not to mention that Prime had a mouth in the cartoon anyway. Orion Pax anyone?
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Postby Magnimus » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:32 pm

Because now people are raving pissed off about the Animated Series they haven't even seen yet. They only like to get outraged at things that they haven't seen in full yet.
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Postby Blitzwing the warrior » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:53 pm

Once people saw the lips in action, people got excited
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Postby Shadowman » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:57 pm

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Sonray wrote:Because no one cares anymore and after all the fanboy ranting people have realized that Prime with a mouth is actually a good idea, not to mention that Prime had a mouth in the cartoon anyway. Orion Pax anyone?


Cybertron Prime and Optimus Primal both had retractable faceplates as well. Though Primal rarely used his.
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Postby Creature SH » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:04 pm

There are bigger things to be upset about. Plot, for example.
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Postby Shadowman » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:06 pm

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Creature SH wrote:There are bigger things to be upset about. Plot, for example.


G1 had a poopy plot. This is an upgrade.
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Postby Spoon » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:08 pm

Because most people just stuck with the comfy bandwagon instead of actually having an opinion of their own.
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The funny part is, he only uses his faceplate like once, and it's for the tiniest part, and you can barely see it because of the angle.

Blitzwing the warrior wrote:Once people saw the lips in action, people got excited


His face is cool as hell because of the detailed animation, but I found the actual design kind of lame. He has no chin, the lips are too low on his face and it's weird. Of course, it's also alien.

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Postby D-340 » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:54 pm

Spoon wrote:Because most people just stuck with the comfy bandwagon instead of actually having an opinion of their own.


I have my own opinion of it: Optimus Primal has 'em, Cybertron Prime has 'em, so it never bothered me. So there ya go.
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Postby Kimmer » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:58 pm

Sonray wrote:Because no one cares anymore and after all the fanboy ranting people have realized that Prime with a mouth is actually a good idea, not to mention that Prime had a mouth in the cartoon anyway. Orion Pax anyone?


no, it's mostly because there's no point in complaining since our opinions obviously don't matter to the people making the movie.
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Postby Miken Ayers » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:08 pm

Now that I think about it it was only Seibertron complaining. And boy was he loud about it.
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Postby Sonray » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:19 pm

kimmer wrote:
Sonray wrote:Because no one cares anymore and after all the fanboy ranting people have realized that Prime with a mouth is actually a good idea, not to mention that Prime had a mouth in the cartoon anyway. Orion Pax anyone?


no, it's mostly because there's no point in complaining since our opinions obviously don't matter to the people making the movie.


And why should they? We arent the ones spending hundreds of millions of bucks making a movie to hopefully turn over a huge profit of further hundreds of millions. So what say do we have in anything over such a large project? Jack sh*t thats what.

And like people have already stated, other incarnations of Prime have had lips, so its no biggie to see this new incarnation of prime to have lips.

People slamming an entire movie over one tiny detail are idiots if that is the case, and if you are a TRUE fan you will embrace change and evolution.
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Postby qwailo » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:27 pm

The faceplate thing went away because like with everything else in this movie...paramount and Bay shut us up.

Everything that we have complained about in the past has actually turned out to be...good...really good.

Well done, Speil-Bay. We should never have doubted you.
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Postby Spoon » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:59 pm

qwailo wrote:The faceplate thing went away because like with everything else in this movie...paramount and Bay shut us up.

Everything that we have complained about in the past has actually turned out to be...good...really good.

Well done, Speil-Bay. We should never have doubted you.
Do speak for yourself please.
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Postby Bottom Out » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:06 pm

no, he's correct. Speil-Bay set out to make a movie that would appeal to the masses...and they did EXACTLY that.
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Postby Spoon » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:12 pm

Bottom Out wrote:no, he's correct. Speil-Bay set out to make a movie that would appeal to the masses...and they did EXACTLY that.
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Postby Bottom Out » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:14 pm

lol, your so bitter over a cartoon...you dont see something wrong with that?
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Postby Chaoslock » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:19 pm

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Postby Robinson » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:32 pm

Spoon wrote:Because most people just stuck with the comfy bandwagon instead of actually having an opinion of their own.


So if we chose to like the lips and not get all pissy about prime having lips then we are on the bandwagon or is it us having our own opinion about how they look?

You've told 2 other people to speak for themself when it comes to their broad generalization comments. I think perhaps you should do the same and not critisize us for not being nit picky and complaining about every little detail such as flames and mouthpieces and fangs.
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Postby qwailo » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:20 pm

Spoon wrote:
Bottom Out wrote:no, he's correct. Speil-Bay set out to make a movie that would appeal to the masses...and they did EXACTLY that.
If 'haters' aren't allowed to speak for all transformer fans then 'lovers' shouldn't be allowed to do that either. Therefore, speak for youself.


I agree, you are absolutely right. But i wasn't speaking for everyone, just generalising based on the many discussions i've had on this forum.
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Postby Spoon » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:31 pm

Bottom Out wrote:lol, your so bitter over a cartoon...you dont see something wrong with that?
...What? Yay for baseless assumptions?

Robinson wrote:So if we chose to like the lips and not get all pissy about prime having lips then we are on the bandwagon or is it us having our own opinion about how they look?

You've told 2 other people to speak for themself when it comes to their broad generalization comments. I think perhaps you should do the same and not critisize us for not being nit picky and complaining about every little detail such as flames and mouthpieces and fangs.
I was mostly referring to the dozends screaming "OMGWTFTHISMOVIEISGONNASUCK" and a couple of months later that same bunch is now screaming "DUDETHISISSOTOTALLYSWEETANDALL" = most of em bandwagoning. A lot of those people were also the people that screamed that primes lips were an abomination and are now suddenly content with it.
I'm not keeping track on who is having an actual opinion or who is bandwagoning nor did I accused any of you personally of it. You all know who you are :P
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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:36 pm

Spoon wrote:
qwailo wrote:The faceplate thing went away because like with everything else in this movie...paramount and Bay shut us up.

Everything that we have complained about in the past has actually turned out to be...good...really good.

Well done, Speil-Bay. We should never have doubted you.
Do speak for yourself please.


Thank you Spoon. I totally agree.

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