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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:

T Honk wrote:

Frostic_Prime wrote:After Starscream shot the second Raptor down, they said "Oh, I think we got him!"

You are just wrong. Sorry but you need to watch it a couple more times before you keep making yourself look foolish.

I thought he said 'i think we got him too" Starscreams left wing was smoking. then in what i thought was a ploy to confuse and escape, starscream just swatted the left wing of one of the other f-22's to mirror his own damage, then took off.

guess i'll have to go see the movie again to be sure

No this is not what happened. The lines in the scene go like this:
Starsceam appears-pilotsays" what is that?, mumble mumble

Starscream takes out 3 jets, transformes to jet, Pilot says "pop that guy!" Starscream gets hit and transforms back to a robot and takes a swing at another jet and misses, transforms to jet and gives chase.

Pilot says "stay on him; keep him in your sights!"
Scene ends

Of course none of this effects the theory that SS shoots at Megs, Which is entirely plausable since the scene above end with SS #2 in line in a squad of 4 other real jets, and Megs gets hit with plenty of missles.

I would rather not tiptoe on this forums rules by discussing how I know for sure, just trust me.
It isnt that important but consitering this thread was started with a false statement the facts should be noted to stop this misinformation.

decepticonjon wrote:

briggs wrote:A question posed to Roberto Orci on the official Transformers Movie message boards..

How did Bumblebee regain his voice and why wasn't it explained?

When they Autobots land and introduce themselves to Sam and Mikaela, Ratchet explains that he's been working on BB voice and actually treats him with a regenerative plasma laser. By the end of the movie, it's worked its magic, but I agree it could've been clearer.

these guys need to remember they are writing for a movie, not a tv show anymore.. that's the dumbest explanation of them all.
argh.. whatever.
thanks roberto, thanks alot for all the hard work.

THis is true. And as he said, it could have been clearer. It seems alot of their work was cut out, so who knows what we missed for that section of the movie.

Personally, when I saw that red beam on bumblebee, I thought it was just Ratchets way of teasing or playing around with Bumblebee, judging from bumbles reaction, sort of like a kid saying "hey quit it!" sorta deal. Had no idea that was actually fixin' something.. lol

The first of the seven stages of grief is acceptance.

Jazz is dead. He's not coming back. Get over it.

How did Bumblebee regain his voice and why wasn't it explained?

I got the impression Ratchet took a diagnostic scan of BBs voice generator not to fix, but to see how the progress is going.
I think BBs handling of the cube slowly repaired his voice. If you look closely you see a blue aura travel out out the cube, through BB and into his neck area just as the cube finishes shrinking.
Even when he does speak it still sounds like it is not quite fully working right. Kind of raspy.

Megatron_Wolf wrote:

T Honk wrote:

Frostic_Prime wrote:After Starscream shot the second Raptor down, they said "Oh, I think we got him!"

Trust me. No he didnt. 5 theater views and my own, rewindable copy say so. Nor does Starscream change color at the end. He hits the stratosphere and engages his thrustors.
Any color change is the effect of these two things.

Wait you have a rewindable copy? God damn it evrey one has connections but me.

I gots me one of them rewindable thingies 2.

Frostic_Prime wrote:After Starscream shot the second Raptor down, they said "Oh, I think we got him!"

No they didn't, here is all of the dialogue from that scene:

"Second wave's on approach."
"What is that?! Stop!"
"Pop that guy." (Just before they hit him with a missle, causing him to switch from jet to robot mode)
"Stay on him, keep him in your sights"

Frostic_Prime wrote:After Starscream shot the second Raptor down, they said "Oh, I think we got him!"

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:I thought he said 'i think we got him too" Starscreams left wing was smoking. then in what i thought was a ploy to confuse and escape, starscream just swatted the left wing of one of the other f-22's to mirror his own damage, then took off.

T Honk wrote: No this is not what happened. The lines in the scene go like this:
Starsceam appears-pilotsays" what is that?, mumble mumble

Starscream takes out 3 jets, transformes to jet, Pilot says "pop that guy!" Starscream gets hit and transforms back to a robot and takes a swing at another jet and misses, transforms to jet and gives chase.

Pilot says "stay on him; keep him in your sights!"
Scene ends

Of course none of this effects the theory that SS shoots at Megs, Which is entirely plausable since the scene above end with SS #2 in line in a squad of 4 other real jets, and Megs gets hit with plenty of missles.

Props to the guy above me for having a brain.

T Honk wrote:

Frostic_Prime wrote:After Starscream shot the second Raptor down, they said "Oh, I think we got him!"

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:I thought he said 'i think we got him too" Starscreams left wing was smoking. then in what i thought was a ploy to confuse and escape, starscream just swatted the left wing of one of the other f-22's to mirror his own damage, then took off.

T Honk wrote: No this is not what happened. The lines in the scene go like this:
Starsceam appears-pilotsays" what is that?, mumble mumble

Starscream takes out 3 jets, transformes to jet, Pilot says "pop that guy!" Starscream gets hit and transforms back to a robot and takes a swing at another jet and misses, transforms to jet and gives chase.

Pilot says "stay on him; keep him in your sights!"
Scene ends

Of course none of this effects the theory that SS shoots at Megs, Which is entirely plausable since the scene above end with SS #2 in line in a squad of 4 other real jets, and Megs gets hit with plenty of missles.

Props to the guy above me for having a brain.

thanks man

jazz's deing was point less he get ripe in two poor jazz

driverlock wrote:jazz's deing was point less he get ripe in two poor jazz

it wasnt pointless it just helped show how megatron didnt care for the life of jazz let alone humans

The fact that Jazz died was fine for me but I really wish that it had been handled differently. I read the novel tie-in before I saw the movie and he actually had his spark ripped out (which makes it more likely that he won't come back), he wasn't ripped in two. The biggest thing for me was how the others reacted. Optimus just held him like grocery bags and was like "Oh well..but we have new friends YAY!" and in the book everyone paid him a respectful silence, which was better in my opinion.

As much as I want to see him in the next film, I'm worried it wouldn't quite work for me. It'll be like he "died" for nothing and there was no reason for Ratchet to say nothing could be done. Just my 2 cents

About the Starscream thing, I really couldn't tell if him, but it would be awesome if it was.

(ps. yay for first post)

Frostic_Prime wrote:Oh shoot 2 more things: SHOCKWAVE is in the game...he looks amazing.
And I could very well be wrong but: I Think I saw Starscream turn G1'ish color schemeish when he flew into space for the last scene. He turned white and his wings had red lining along the side, I am sure it wasn't fire.

Are they any screenshots of Shockwave out there?