The Energon Pub

News Credits: 2 · by **Frostic_Prime** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:46 pm

Could have just been my imagination but it looked a lot like it.

by **lilcarus** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:47 pm

decepticonjon wrote:watch the movie again silly, he uses his radio voice after transforming the cube.. he never talks till the end of the movie, and his legs are blown off, still, so the allspark didn't fix anything on him before the cube killed megs
touche' my ass.

well we all know ratchet wasnt able to fix his voice box problem yet in the movie....that just leaves the cube.

during the fight scene i never saw ratchet shoot a repair lazer at bb's throat....but i did see bb with the cube for like 20 mins...i think its a safe bet that the cube gave him his voice back one way of the other...via instant magic like it gave frenzy a body or just letting bb's voice box regenerate and heal.

i just know ratchet had nothing to do with it im sure of that.

by **Mr.RobotoAutoMan** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:54 pm

Frostic_Prime wrote:After Starscream shot the second Raptor down, they said "Oh, I think we got him!"

didnt they say "stay on him" cause starcream transformed in the f-22 right in front of them.

News Credits: 2 · by **Frostic_Prime** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:00 pm

One of the guys said that before oh I think we got him. And that's when Starscream lead forward.

by **madMike** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:14 pm

can anybody tell me what happened to barricade? i dont remember him being 'killed'

by **T Honk** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:24 pm

Frostic_Prime wrote:After Starscream shot the second Raptor down, they said "Oh, I think we got him!"

You are just wrong. Sorry but you need to watch it a couple more times before you keep making yourself look foolish.

by **T Honk** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:34 pm

madMike wrote:can anybody tell me what happened to barricade? i dont remember him being 'killed'

He disapeared after he was shown in the deception convoy just prior to Bonecrusher and Optimus' fight on the freeway.I heard someone say that a clip was cut of Optimus dispatching him right after Bonecrusher, but I cant say its true. But it would explian why he was so late to the final battle.

News Credits: 2 · by **Frostic_Prime** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:36 pm

I'm not the only one who believes this theory so you can't just say I'm wrong until you can actually prove I'm wrong. I never said I was wrong and I never said it was definite. Don't be so defensive.

by **SnipeShade** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:36 pm

decepticonjon wrote:
SnipeShade wrote:
Spartanion wrote:I think if Jazz was brought back everyone watching the movie would say "well duh, they're robots they can't really die"

Well you could look at it this way. In the cartoon series, death was brought about by unrepairable damaged parts. And unless replaced, the bot would die.

Kinda like when your computer gets a broken parts. It could only be repaired so far and so much until you have to buy a new computer. Otherwise, you can keep reviving your computer.

Bumblebee's legs were severed. Torn from him. But repairable since it was most likely easily replaceable parts and ripped wires.

Jazz was severed at his torso. Unless there was something that was ultimately damaged beyond repair, he could be revived. But he IS "dead" (offline), just maybe not beyond the science of fixing.

Kinda like a Vampire. He could "die" if he doesn't drink blood or loses it. But can be revived. Unless you damage his heart beyond "repair" (healing).

frenzy got his head sawed off, still lived with just his head.. touche'

you got it! Even better example. lol.

by **madMike** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:38 pm

T Honk wrote:
madMike wrote:can anybody tell me what happened to barricade? i dont remember him being 'killed'

He disapeared after he was shown in the deception convoy just prior to Bonecrusher and Optimus' fight on the freeway.I heard someone say that a clip was cut of Optimus dispatching him right after Bonecrusher, but I cant say its true. But it would explian why he was so late to the final battle.

thanks for the info, although i find it kinda hard to believe that they would leave such an important part out. One more thing. What's that last scene you guys are talking about where starscream flies off into orbit? i dont remember anything like that. can you be a bit more specific as to when that happens?

News Credits: 2 · by **blkbitcloud1** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:39 pm

"frenzy got his head sawed off, still lived with just his head.. touche' "

Nope, sorry...she cut thru him but he pulled himself from his body...sprouts some legs and walks over to her phone..and I watched the movie twice!!

blkbitcloud1

News Credits: 2 · by **Frostic_Prime** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:40 pm

It's before the actual credits, the scrolling one. It's Starscream flying back towards space.

by **madMike** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:43 pm

Frostic_Prime wrote:It's before the actual credits, the scrolling one. It's Starscream flying back towards space.

ah man, i totally missed that! the theater i went to turned lights and all back on right after optimus' talks at the end.. dammit

News Credits: 5 · by **decepticonjon** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:52 pm

blkbitcloud1 wrote:"frenzy got his head sawed off, still lived with just his head.. touche' "

Nope, sorry...she cut thru him but he pulled himself from his body...sprouts some legs and walks over to her phone..and I watched the movie twice!!

blkbitcloud1

sam kicked his goddamn head off after the sawing. what movie did you watch?

News Credits: 3 · by **Barricade** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:54 pm

madMike wrote:
T Honk wrote:
madMike wrote:can anybody tell me what happened to barricade? i dont remember him being 'killed'

He disapeared after he was shown in the deception convoy just prior to Bonecrusher and Optimus' fight on the freeway.I heard someone say that a clip was cut of Optimus dispatching him right after Bonecrusher, but I cant say its true. But it would explian why he was so late to the final battle.

thanks for the info, although i find it kinda hard to believe that they would leave such an important part out. One more thing. What's that last scene you guys are talking about where starscream flies off into orbit? i dont remember anything like that. can you be a bit more specific as to when that happens?

yeah barricade goes out like a little b**** after prime pwns bonecrusher...... or atleast thats what the movie adaptation comic says...

News Credits: 487 · by **Darth Bombshell** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:58 pm

Barricade wrote:yeah barricade goes out like a little b**** after prime pwns bonecrusher...... or atleast thats what the movie adaptation comic says...

And the book.

News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:55 pm

lilcarus wrote:well we all know ratchet wasnt able to fix his voice box problem yet in the movie....that just leaves the cube.

during the fight scene i never saw ratchet shoot a repair lazer at bb's throat....but i did see bb with the cube for like 20 mins...i think its a safe bet that the cube gave him his voice back one way of the other...via instant magic like it gave frenzy a body or just letting bb's voice box regenerate and heal.

i just know ratchet had nothing to do with it im sure of that.

A question posed to Roberto Orci on the official Transformers Movie message boards..

How did Bumblebee regain his voice and why wasn't it explained?

When they Autobots land and introduce themselves to Sam and Mikaela, Ratchet explains that he's been working on BB voice and actually treats him with a regenerative plasma laser. By the end of the movie, it's worked its magic, but I agree it could've been clearer.

It's on the first page, question is from Spanbauer
http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=12054

by **T Honk** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:56 pm

Frostic_Prime wrote:I'm not the only one who believes this theory so you can't just say I'm wrong until you can actually prove I'm wrong. I never said I was wrong and I never said it was definite. Don't be so defensive.

You must think I am speaking of the thoery that starscream attacks megatron.

I am not

You are misquoteing the pilots of the F22s and I am correcting you. All the proof I need is on film, very clear.

by **Obi-Wan Kenobi** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:47 pm

T Honk wrote:
Frostic_Prime wrote:After Starscream shot the second Raptor down, they said "Oh, I think we got him!"

You are just wrong. Sorry but you need to watch it a couple more times before you keep making yourself look foolish.

I thought he said 'i think we got him too" Starscreams left wing was smoking. then in what i thought was a ploy to confuse and escape, starscream just swatted the left wing of one of the other f-22's to mirror his own damage, then took off.

guess i'll have to go see the movie again to be sure

News Credits: 2 · by **Frostic_Prime** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:42 pm

Yeah no offense but I doubt seeing the movie multiple times doesn't cause you to save the script in your head. It's not even a big deal.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:14 am

I think Jazz could be back. Prime did save a part of the allspark so that could play a role in Jazz being revived. As for the Bumblebee haveing a fixed voicebox ive heard there is a scene cut that has Ratchet fixing it. Some also say that Barricade fought prime but the scene was cut. Prime fighting Barricade would explan why he was late to the fight. I think that at the last minute they decided they wanted Barricade in the next movie so they cut out his battle with prime. Either that or he tried to flank around and was late to the battle. Also i think bonecrusher is still alive. He only had his head cut off. How many times in the TF universe have we seen TFs heads come off just to see them put it right back on again.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:37 am

T Honk wrote:
Frostic_Prime wrote:After Starscream shot the second Raptor down, they said "Oh, I think we got him!"

Trust me. No he didnt. 5 theater views and my own, rewindable copy say so. Nor does Starscream change color at the end. He hits the stratosphere and engages his thrustors.
Any color change is the effect of these two things.

Wait you have a rewindable copy? God damn it evrey one has connections but me.

by **Spartanion** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:07 am

Here's another idea, Ratchet alone can't repair Jazz, but what if Wheeljack comes along, he is a "mad scientist" after all, and helps Ratchet find a way to fix him.

News Credits: 2 · by **Frostic_Prime** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:29 am

Damn, just imagine: Wheeljack is weird looking as is, how much nastier can they make him.

News Credits: 5 · by **decepticonjon** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:34 am

briggs wrote:A question posed to Roberto Orci on the official Transformers Movie message boards..

How did Bumblebee regain his voice and why wasn't it explained?

When they Autobots land and introduce themselves to Sam and Mikaela, Ratchet explains that he's been working on BB voice and actually treats him with a regenerative plasma laser. By the end of the movie, it's worked its magic, but I agree it could've been clearer.

these guys need to remember they are writing for a movie, not a tv show anymore.. that's the dumbest explanation of them all.
argh.. whatever.
thanks roberto, thanks alot for all the hard work.