The Energon Pub

Parents are nonexistent anymore. Oh there are people who spawn the next generation of their already shallow genepool, but they're not parents. Any one of us can fire off some genetic material and hit the life button. Sad, isn't it?

I remember holding up a line at K-Mart for 10 minutes and causing a scene all because I wanted the full set of Mutations Turtles...and I got them.

I look back now and if I could...I'd beat the living sh*t out of myself for being such a f*ckwit piece of sh*t. I hate myself for being the prick I was. I was a snotty brat of a kid, and an even worse teenager. I was a dick.

Someone should've beat my ass and bruised me to the bone, but no. My parents didn't believe in hitting. Fortunately I turned out okay and learned that it's not right to be an asshole, but my kids...oh hell no. They will not pull an act like I did.

Oh no friggin' way.

I work in a grocery store (Meijer, for those who dunno, think of a super wally world with k-mart expectations) and I hear screaming whiney kids for about 8 hours a day. Weekends are the worst cause ya..EVERYONE is shopping, kids running around, kids on those lollerskate shoes.

Not trying to sound biased or rascist but in my store, the mexican kids are the worst. parents about..5 lil **** heads running around yelling and ****, makes me wanna kill =(

But whenever I go to the toy aisle on my breaks to look and see if any TFs are in stock I see no kids ever. And if I do they're never screaming nor crying if they are it's from hitting something or a baby just crying cause thats what they do.

Kanyon wrote:I work in a grocery store (Meijer, for those who dunno, think of a super wally world with k-mart expectations) and I hear screaming whiney kids for about 8 hours a day. Weekends are the worst cause ya..EVERYONE is shopping, kids running around, kids on those lollerskate shoes.

Not trying to sound biased or rascist but in my store, the mexican kids are the worst. parents about..5 lil **** heads running around yelling and ****, makes me wanna kill =(

But whenever I go to the toy aisle on my breaks to look and see if any TFs are in stock I see no kids ever. And if I do they're never screaming nor crying if they are it's from hitting something or a baby just crying cause thats what they do.

even though u didnt mean to sound racist, which i'm not really sure if u didnt, but are u really sure they are all mexicans??? theres other races south of the US border besides mexican, so labeling all hispanics under mexican did sound racist, unless u saw them waving mexican flags and stuff in the store. but yup, kids are getting worser and worst!! lol when i was younger if i couldnt get a toy i would at least put him back in its rightful place, sure i might cry or something, but at least put it back, now in days more and more kids have to respect, they leave toy aisles a mess, not just there eithers, saw a mom with her kids at a target, as they walked the boy which i guess was her son just kept grabbing clothes from the racks, and dropping them on the ground, mom just kept walking behind him not even telling him a word.

Dead Metal wrote:Idiots producing more idiots?! That sounds a hell lot like Hitler!

Call it what you will but with the world already buckling under the pressures of our massive population, the last thing we need is people breeding in record numbers.

The sanctions in china should be implemented in some manner globally, since we as a species seem to be in no hurry to correct the climate crisis. The smaller our population is the smaller the demand is on our resources.

And unlike hitler, I am not interested in a mass extinction of one particular part of society, I think we all need to take responsibility for our careless procreation.

Kids learn from example. Bad parenting is the worst place they can learn this.

You see a toy aisle decimated and falling apart? It's not the kids. It's the adults. I've seen more adults tear through stuff like crazy.

In fact, at the two local Wal-Marts last night (and the night before) I sorted the shelves and made everything look nice with a place for everything and everything in it's place.

The next day, it was a mess. One of the tell tale signs it was an adult (other than the fact I saw a guy leave the aisle...) kids will throw stuff everywhere. On the floor, on the wrong shelves, etc.... no these pieces were in the general area, but stacked on top of one another, pushed out of the way and moved around like a Rubik's cube. A kid doesn't have the patience or the time for that.

It's ridiculous and pathetic. Adults should be ashamed of themselves. ...and they should smash their own heads in with a hammer.

megatron7 wrote:

Kanyon wrote:I work in a grocery store (Meijer, for those who dunno, think of a super wally world with k-mart expectations) and I hear screaming whiney kids for about 8 hours a day. Weekends are the worst cause ya..EVERYONE is shopping, kids running around, kids on those lollerskate shoes.

Not trying to sound biased or rascist but in my store, the mexican kids are the worst. parents about..5 lil **** heads running around yelling and ****, makes me wanna kill =(

But whenever I go to the toy aisle on my breaks to look and see if any TFs are in stock I see no kids ever. And if I do they're never screaming nor crying if they are it's from hitting something or a baby just crying cause thats what they do.

even though u didnt mean to sound racist, which i'm not really sure if u didnt, but are u really sure they are all mexicans??? theres other races south of the US border besides mexican, so labeling all hispanics under mexican did sound racist, unless u saw them waving mexican flags and stuff in the store. but yup, kids are getting worser and worst!! lol when i was younger if i couldnt get a toy i would at least put him back in its rightful place, sure i might cry or something, but at least put it back, now in days more and more kids have to respect, they leave toy aisles a mess, not just there eithers, saw a mom with her kids at a target, as they walked the boy which i guess was her son just kept grabbing clothes from the racks, and dropping them on the ground, mom just kept walking behind him not even telling him a word.

Only thing I can really tell from them is..They're speaking spanish..Or I think it is, but ya only time I see a kid being struck in the stores are by overweight moms, no joke. I'm sure cashiers get the blunt force of screaming kids rather us stockers. Besides getting yelled at why we don't have a certain product in stock or carry it..

Autobot032 wrote:Parents are nonexistent anymore. Oh there are people who spawn the next generation of their already shallow genepool, but they're not parents. Any one of us can fire off some genetic material and hit the life button. Sad, isn't it?

That is the saddest thing about the current state of humanity. What was once the strength of humanity has now turned us into a virus, we just keep spreading and spreading. We dont form any balance with the environment we call home, at its most base, we are closer to a disease than anything else.

If earth has a cancer, we are it.

We kill each other and everything else over imaginary gods, we pollute and destroy the natural balance of our home and we do it all as fast as possible and call it progress.

We have world leaders more concerned with profit than the fact that within 50 years our planet is going to look like a scene from a post apocalyptic movie.

Kanyon wrote:

megatron7 wrote:

Kanyon wrote:I work in a grocery store (Meijer, for those who dunno, think of a super wally world with k-mart expectations) and I hear screaming whiney kids for about 8 hours a day. Weekends are the worst cause ya..EVERYONE is shopping, kids running around, kids on those lollerskate shoes.

Not trying to sound biased or rascist but in my store, the mexican kids are the worst. parents about..5 lil **** heads running around yelling and ****, makes me wanna kill =(

But whenever I go to the toy aisle on my breaks to look and see if any TFs are in stock I see no kids ever. And if I do they're never screaming nor crying if they are it's from hitting something or a baby just crying cause thats what they do.

even though u didnt mean to sound racist, which i'm not really sure if u didnt, but are u really sure they are all mexicans??? theres other races south of the US border besides mexican, so labeling all hispanics under mexican did sound racist, unless u saw them waving mexican flags and stuff in the store. but yup, kids are getting worser and worst!! lol when i was younger if i couldnt get a toy i would at least put him back in its rightful place, sure i might cry or something, but at least put it back, now in days more and more kids have to respect, they leave toy aisles a mess, not just there eithers, saw a mom with her kids at a target, as they walked the boy which i guess was her son just kept grabbing clothes from the racks, and dropping them on the ground, mom just kept walking behind him not even telling him a word.

Only thing I can really tell from them is..They're speaking spanish..Or I think it is, but ya only time I see a kid being struck in the stores are by overweight moms, no joke. I'm sure cashiers get the blunt force of screaming kids rather us stockers. Besides getting yelled at why we don't have a certain product in stock or carry it..

people from guatemala, el salvador, puerto rico, and i dont want to list ALL of the south american countries, but they all speak spanish, so i dont see why thats an excuse to label them as mexican. but kohls is definitely the worst when it comes to toy departments, i dont mean by what they have in stock, because many people have had success there, but i mean in how messy it is, i'm not even sure if its the kids or adults who cause this, although the shelves at the top that seem to be out of the kids reach are pretty messy too

I consider myself fortunate that canada will be one of the last to feel the consequences of global warming.

We are already seeing flooding in places that arent known for heavy flooding. I couldnt believe the news footage from the states recently, it looked like footage from a 3rd world country, not the supposed superpower of the world

I am curious to see what the US president does when manhattan is underwater.

We are strapped for resources as it is, more children are NOT the answer.

The more people the looser our grip on the situation gets.

Sid Burn wrote:I consider myself fortunate that canada will be one of the last to feel the consequences of global warming.

We are already seeing flooding in places that arent known for heavy flooding. I couldnt believe the news footage from the states recently, it looked like footage from a 3rd world country, not the supposed superpower of the world

I am curious to see what the US president does when manhattan is underwater.

We are strapped for resources as it is, more children are NOT the answer.

The more people the looser our grip on the situation gets.

The problem is...one of these children...these future generations...one of them *will* find a cure for Cancer, AIDS, etc. It can be done as science and learning progresses...but we've got to find those kids and ensure their existence. But we have to weed through billions more just to find them.

But kids aren't the problem. Oh no.

It was said in a science article (about three years ago) that race will not be the problems in minority and majority. It'll be age class. The elderly are living longer, healthier lives and they're accumulating quickly. By 2025 (I think it said...I can't find that damned article and it's driving me friggin' nuts!) the minority will be anyone under the age of 55, and the sheer amount of people and space problems will far outweigh whether or not Mexicans are crawling through our borders, Skinheads are promoting White Power, etc etc...

I think our problems with each other will soon die out. Our problems have gotten much bigger than the whole "I hate you because you're..." issue.

We just don't have the damn room for this. No way, no how.

One thing we could do, instead of building out, we could build up. Don't go and build a new apartment complex. Take the ones you have now and turn them into tenant towers. Build upon what we have now. Don't go and dig another hole in the Earth to make room elsewhere. Accommodate for these people with what you have now.

Tear down abandoned stores and parking lots. Rip out the old concrete and steel, and bring back the bare Earth beneath it. Plant grass and tree seedlings. Revitalize the planet, and still harbor the people.

This is nothing but common sense, it's not impossible and it's something that needs to be done...but we'll never see sensibility in all of this, not when money is the driving factor.

Autobot032 wrote:The problem is...one of these children...these future generations...one of them *will* find a cure for Cancer, AIDS, etc. It can be done as science and learning progresses...but we've got to find those kids and ensure their existence. But we have to weed through billions more just to find them.

a valid point, though realist that I am, I believe the cures to these ailments are already there, but the money isnt in the cure, its in the medecine.

Why cure aids when millions are being made on designer drug cocktails?
Why cure cancer when millions are made on treatments like chemotherapy and the like?

If the US is willing to practically ignore global warming to maximize its profits in the oil industry, is it a stretch to think they would ignore a the cure when a disease is lining their pockets?

The point about the elderly is valid as well, I know governments are struggling to set a new retirement age here since people are living longer and longer. But if lifespans are going to routinely push into the 80's and 90's, should that not further interest in curbing procreation to minimize the overlap?

its a double edged sword, we keep making more babies, and they live twice as long so the population is exploding. A larger population pollutes more, therefore stripping the earth of the resources that we need.

Humanity is really buggering this world up at a tremendous pace, and the US government, who should be at the forefront of global change is driving us to our death with their collective foot to the floor.

I suppose I shouldnt expect much from a government run by a family that made their fortune from Nazi gold.

Well I can say this much I have a 4 yr old son... He loves transformers! He loves it when I buy him transformers! He hates the crap out of it when I dont buy him transformers, but.... If he ever gets out of line he gets his little but spanked so fast the only thing that transforms is his little cheeks from peach to pink!! I dont want ppl to take this the wrong way but im merely trying to say there has to be discipline in a parent child relationship, Im not saying u have to hit ur kid when he or she throws a fit in a store but i sure as F am saying u need to discipline the lil brat!!! Parents have becomes so weak and timid these days sometimes I feel like I know why there are so many in prison these days.... The PARENTS!!!!!

One thing I just don't understand: parents just buying toys for their kids. From what I see, it doesn't look like the kids have an allowance that they spend or anything. They ask, and they get.

Back when I was a kid (heck, still today, although nowadays the money mostly goes towards university-related expenses), I'd get some pocket money. It was a decent amount, enough to buy a small toy (say, a regular action figure or a smaller TF) a week if I wanted to. That was it, though. That was all the money I got to spend. My parents would only buy me stuff for my birthday and for Christmas, and then they would buy me a large amount, no doubt. The rest of the year, however, I had to pick my stuff carefully, because that was it.

Lo and behold, it taught me some idea of how to budget. Saving doesn't come naturally to me, and even today I tend to spend my excess money as soon as I get it. That said, I can save money when I need to, and I have been able to do so for quite a while now. Back when the N64 came out, I managed to save enough money to buy one by myself (had to do some extra odd jobs, as well). More recently, I've saved money to buy a Nintendo DS and to go to England at the end of last year. I know the impact, and it's positive.

And you know what? I don't ever recall kicking up a huge fuss in the toy department. I undoubtedly did it a few times, but it wasn't a habit. It seems to be working for my niece as well (who's just getting to the age where it's feasible for her parents to give her pocket money). In short, make the kids spend their own, limited supply of money (even if they don't do anything in particular for it, as it was for me), and you won't have these problems in the toy aisles.

It's science fiction at it's finest, but we seriously need to put the entire race on lockdown, or in a different location (the moon...) and let Earth heal itself, even for a handful of years.

Believe it or not my son at a young 4 years old does work for an allowance... Granted its alot more than I got when I was little.. but I totally agree with u about that it teaches the value of a dollar and for that fact of matter the value of a possesion, the only time I flat out buy toys for my son is when I buy doubles of a TF one for me and one for him to remain sealed in the package.

the thing that gets me about all this PC bullshit is that people dont realize that unless we get tough on all this BS the world will go to hell, overpopulation, pollution, crime, social values...all out of hand and tbh i think its gonna take some hard arse government that has the balls to put in some serious social changes, not caring what people think, but what is actually good for them...kinda like a dictatorship but without the crazy loonatic at the helm...sounds drastic i know, but its what we need...or will need soon...or these lil shits running around walmart throwing toys at people are gonna grow up to be world leader throwing who knows what at people

it just seems to me that people are more worried about kids getting smacked (not abused) by their loving parents, than about the kids running around the streets with guns and knives attacking firemen and policemen...the worlds priorities are completely screwed up atm

wow!! alotta good points here! let me add my 2 cents! i too am a DAD of 3! i believe its a respect issue, there not enough of it imo! i teach it to my kids and hopefully someday, they will teach it to there kids! i agree that ALOT of kids nowadays are total out of control, i see it everyweekend when i take my kids shopping! its funny too, because my youngest son( who's 4) just looks at some of these kids throwing a fit, and says" someones not a happy camper" it just makes me laugh and proud at the same time! all my kids earn there money to, i don't just buy them anything, thats the way i was raised and i saw it made me value the dollar more and it does! it comes down to the parents instilling values and morels, thats not happening today when it should! instead they just let them do as the please, and buy them off! something i could'nt EVER see myself doing! its also sad,whats the world going to be like in say 25 years when those spoiled brats are our new leaders! kinda scary imo!

Many good points here. Respect for the parents (or lack of), the PC police (oh how I hate them in all things, destroying the world like they are) are some of the things that are causing problems. But respect for the parent has to be earned from the kid. They are not going to respect anyone just for the sheer hell of it.

I remember one time, I was with my mum in TRU and there was this figure I wanted, but no matter how many times I asked for it, she said no. So I went into a huff and stopped talking to her. I didn't throw a tantrum or anything (I was raised to be polite and respectful), I just stopped talking. Eventually, I cheered up and started talking to her again later that day. I eventually go the figure a few months later for Christmas, if anyone was wondering.

nintendofreakgcn wrote:One thing I just don't understand: parents just buying toys for their kids. From what I see, it doesn't look like the kids have an allowance that they spend or anything. They ask, and they get.

Back when I was a kid (heck, still today, although nowadays the money mostly goes towards university-related expenses), I'd get some pocket money. It was a decent amount, enough to buy a small toy (say, a regular action figure or a smaller TF) a week if I wanted to. That was it, though. That was all the money I got to spend. My parents would only buy me stuff for my birthday and for Christmas, and then they would buy me a large amount, no doubt. The rest of the year, however, I had to pick my stuff carefully, because that was it.

Lo and behold, it taught me some idea of how to budget. Saving doesn't come naturally to me, and even today I tend to spend my excess money as soon as I get it. That said, I can save money when I need to, and I have been able to do so for quite a while now. Back when the N64 came out, I managed to save enough money to buy one by myself (had to do some extra odd jobs, as well). More recently, I've saved money to buy a Nintendo DS and to go to England at the end of last year. I know the impact, and it's positive.

And you know what? I don't ever recall kicking up a huge fuss in the toy department. I undoubtedly did it a few times, but it wasn't a habit. It seems to be working for my niece as well (who's just getting to the age where it's feasible for her parents to give her pocket money). In short, make the kids spend their own, limited supply of money (even if they don't do anything in particular for it, as it was for me), and you won't have these problems in the toy aisles.

This is exactly what needs to be done. I was raised the same way, save my pocket money and I could buy what I want. If I didn't have the money for it, I couldn't get it. So I saved and got quite a few BW guys from TRU. Now, I can save money, prioritise things, and be able to afford the more expensive tf's.

If a kid of mine was misbehaving and wasn't stopping when I told him to, I would place my hand on his shoulder in a friendly gesture and squeeze slightly until he stopped. To the outside, it would look like a friendly gesture, but the child would be punished and he would stop.

Yes, I'm sure someone would say 'But wont that make the child fearful of human contact later in life?' I would make sure the kid knew what was comming and why I was doing it before I did it.

I was given lots of toys as a child, and not because I had a tantrum for them. Basically, it made my parents happy to buy me toys, and I played with every one of them and took care of them (for the most part). I never made a huge scene in public because the entire reason I was at TRU was because I was well-behaved. They'd tell me to pick a toy and I'd spend 20 minutes looking at Grand Champion horses.

Now I take my 3-yr-old to the toy section only if I am prepared to purchase him a toy (or if I am quickly breezing through to look at TFs). I share most of my TFs with him and I get to experience the joy of watching my child enjoy toys. He doesn't really have many tantrums, at least not yet.

i am a 12 year old kid but i am not angry at this topic.in fact i agree.i have a baby cousin who is so spoiled.whenever he crys he always gets what he wants.he blame stuff on me and i didnt do anything! he just makes me mad.whenever im at target i barely see any kids.but kids are spoiled.i see too many kids with ipods and expensive cell phones.the most expensive thing i have is a ds! and i hate how when the kids are bad or beating other people up the parents say "isnt s/he an angel" or "theyre just playing" but when some one hits their kid they say " you ought to discipline that lil' devil!!"

yep, i acted up when i was 5, my dad flicked my ear and that was it, it;s amazing seeing parents today just watching there kids run around being assholes, but the second someone decides to be the parent (no the parents, but someone else) the parents get all pissed off. one time i was getting the da vinci code special edition set at toys r us and some 10 year old was having a tantrum because he couldnt get a lego set and he was throwing stuff around. so I decide to be the parent and i drag him by this collar (his shirt collar) over to his parents and i say "is this kid yours" they like call over security because im the one that stepped up to the plate and IM the one that gets kicked out? no, the parents and the freaking spoiled brat got kicked out of there!

so thats my story

BTW: i was 12 at the time and its pretty F*king sad when someone just 2 years older than the kid has to step up and do something

these kids today are seriously in trouble. I see it all the time. I just know that my twin boys will not grow up like that.

The bad thing is that when I see it happen in the stores I actually make it a point to laugh at the parents so they can hear me. One time a lady looked at me and asked if I was laughing at her and I told yes I was. Then I also said lady if your child can get over on you like this in the supermarket, I can not wait until they get locked up and you have to sell your house.

I understand not hitting your children because I will not do that, but I know they will be raised with discipline and respect for other people.

I am 13, and I live in a quiet area, but I must say that most people I see would take being called smart an insult.
I don't often see tantrum children, but I hate them when I see them. I don't have any memorable encounters with them but this is a similiar thing:
I was at the cinema to see son of the mask. Rubbish film, but in front of us was this lady and her young son. Halfway through the movie he spilt his popcorn everywhere. His mum went loco, and whispered through gritted teeth, "This is the first, and last time we EVER go to the cinema!"
Harsh stuff.And one more thing: In my science class there is a boy who is extremely misbehaved. He just will not shut up. So, at parents evening, the teacher requested to see his parents. Next lesson, she says his parents didn't arrive. The boy says that his parents didn't want to come.
Some parents don't discipline because they don't know about the misbehaviour.
How I want to wring his neck, and others like him. Oh, and I am totally geneticist. Supernanny is an interesting programme. The parents who have stupid children are stupid. Something must be done.

if i couldnt get arrested or something, i woulda had punched his mother or throwed her son at the floor, i have a lot of patience but with such big work of that kid i woulda had shouted something else like F**k off!!!! yeah...some punches would be nice too but hes sooooo little my life could be completele ruined for that...and i am 12, i dont quite remember if i did that, something i remember is seein kids like that, i didnt care cuz i was lot younger, like 6 or 7...

Come to Germany, we are down to 1.2 children per woman of child bearing age and that without any government laws. They are currently trying to entice people into getting more children, but so far they don't really have that much luck with that, especially among the female academic persons.

On the other hand, you might find yourself importing Transformers and Transformers related products, a lot.