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Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Fanboy wrote:alldarker wrote:All those people that think Frenzy is the red tape, and that Rumble is the blue tape, based solely on a cartoon that was rife with coloration (and voice) mistakes, and in blind ignorance of all other proof that in fact Rumble is red and Frenzy is blue. It's insane to think that even people who call themselves Transformers fans still get them mixed up so badly.
but frenzy is bkue and rumble is red did you ever watch the cartoon ?
Toys came first, months before the cartoon. Not just that, I think the comics followed the toy colors more.
.. dammit, I promised myself to stay out the RiRFiB arguments from now on!
Henry921 wrote: Really, Hasbro hasn't been consistent themselves, so I tend to just call them 'red robot' and 'blue robot', and then make jokes about cracking shells.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:
When people think Car Robots (not RiD, but its Japanese version) is in its own non-G1 continuity.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
You didn't know that?sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
When people think Car Robots (not RiD, but its Japanese version) is in its own non-G1 continuity.
CR2000 is connected gto G1 in Japan?
pkease explain
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:You didn't know that?sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
When people think Car Robots (not RiD, but its Japanese version) is in its own non-G1 continuity.
CR2000 is connected gto G1 in Japan?
pkease explain
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Generation_1_cartoon_timeline_(Japan)
Car Robots was the last series released in Japan before Micron Densetsu (Armada), which was the series that introduced the concept of different continuity families over there. Until Armada came out, no series in Japan was considered to be a separate continuity family from G1.
Car Robots fits into the timeline thanks to a number of factors:
- The above-stated notion of no pre-Armada series being a different continuity family in Japan.
- Supplementary Car Robots catalog material stated that the Destrongers came from the future.
- A vague but still present line of dialogue from Fire Convoy in the cartoon that supported the catalog's statement (this line was apparently the only aspect of the Japanese cartoon that referred to this, as it was ignored in the English dub, which was reworked into its own continuity family as RiD).
- The manga mini-series "Star Gate Sen'neki" ("The Battle of the Star Gate") concluding with a massive battle that rendered the entire cast of G1 Transformers either offline or missing, leaving an opening for the Car Robots cast to come in with little conflict.
- The Japanese Car Robots characters having new names that didn't conflict with existing G1 character names.
- Kiss Players Position and Teletraan-15 Go! Go! establishing and solidifying Car Robots' placement in the year 2000 of the Japanese G1 cartoon continuity timeline, as well as creating the origin of Brave Maximus.
- The United EX fiction dating the creation of the Energon Matrix as 2035, necessitating Fire Convoy and God Magnus to have also come from the future like the Destrongers.
Sabrblade wrote:Loooads of things
Sabrblade wrote:You didn't know that?
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
*Everything* in Japan was connected to the G1 cartoon in some form before Armada came along.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:how is a "notion" evidence of a connection?
See above.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:how is coming from the future evidence of a connection?
I think it was something like Fire Convoy saying he would follow Gigatron wherever he went, "even if it's to the edge of the universe". That kinda-sorta fit in with his team being a "Dimensional Patrol", but like I said, it's pretty vague despite being the only piece related to the cast having come from another era.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:what was this line, and did it confirm a connection or confirm they are time travellers?
By "little conflict", I mean without intruding upon what had come before & after the year 2000 of the story's timeline.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:what do you consider little conflict?Also, what year would that battle have taken place in?
Brave Max and Japanese Fort Max aren't the same guy. Brave Max was created on Earth in ancient times by Primus to be a guardian watching over Unicron's dormant Angolmois energy.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:to me this presents a great conflict with J-G1 Headmasters.
I looked up what you posted above tf tf Wiki-states that Brave Max did not migrate from Cybertron with the others that he came from the futures/other dimension and landed on planet master.
The Headmaster cartoon tells a different story,Max was known on Cybertron in the past, which is confirmed by Kup.
The lesser Matrices possessed by Japanese Optimus Primal, Lio Convoy, Big Convoy, Fire Convoy, and maybe God Magnus.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Energon Matrix?
The most I can find on this is this old Hasbro Q&A question asked twice by TFWiki:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:BTW, I was under the impression that takara originally wanted Armada to be part of G1 as well.
To which Hasbro couldn't provide an answer, each time (in other words, they don't know).The July 2003 issue of the magazine NewType USA contained an article on the then-upcoming Armada series, and featured an interview with the Japanese director of Armada, one Hidehito Ueda. According to the preamble of the interview, and we quote:"In the beginning, Transformers Armada was planned as a sequel to The Rebirth, the last three-part Transformers episode shown in America featuring the Autobots and Decepticons, but later, partially because of Hasbro, it was produced as a completely new series."
Is this statement true? Was Armada originally conceived as a follow-up to the original Transformers cartoon?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:*Everything* in Japan was connected to the G1 cartoon in some form before Armada came along.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:how is a "notion" evidence of a connection?
Armada was the first series released in Japan that was explicitly non-G1. Before it came along, no series in Japan was seen as not being a part of the G1 continuity family (which the G1 cartoon formed the core of for them).See above.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:how is coming from the future evidence of a connection?
Also, the catalog mentioned Fire Convoy's team as being a "Dimensional Patrol".
I think it was something like Fire Convoy saying he would follow Gigatron wherever he went, "even if it's to the edge of the universe". That kinda-sorta fit in with his team being a "Dimensional Patrol", but like I said, it's pretty vague despite being the only piece related to the cast having come from another era.
By "little conflict", I mean without intruding upon what had come before & after the year 2000 of the story's timeline.
As for the battle itself, it took place in the late 1990s.
Brave Max and Japanese Fort Max aren't the same guy.......
The lesser Matrices possessed by Japanese Optimus Primal, Lio Convoy, Big Convoy, Fire Convoy, and maybe God Magnus.
The most I can find on this is this old Hasbro Q&A
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Nor is there any evidence of a narrative disconnection.What more do you want aside from "Micron Densetsu was the first non-G1 series in Japan"?sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:your reply didnt answer the question.
still not seeing evidence of a narrative connection.
I dont see how that is evidence of a G1 connection
Hydra wrote:Incidentally, I got in touch with the creator of the KissPlayers era Japanese timeline.
Car Robots was defined as being set in the G1 timeline with both factions from the future because:
*Until the Unicron Trilogy, no series released in Japan clearly identified itself as an alternate continuity.
*The Destrongers were clearly stated to be from the future in supplemental materials, but
the Cybertrons were determined to be from the future for 2 reasons:
1. The presence of an Energon Matrix
2. The fact that the Spychangers were described as a new generation of TF's in the G1 GoBots profile.
-Hydra
Like what? The battle of the Star Gate made all the G1 guys (and then some) go MIA for several years, leaving Earth free and clean of TFs for the CR cast to come in during the year 2000.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:then I see some conflicts
o_Osto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:so at some poiint, Optimus possed 2 types of Matrices?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Nor is there any evidence of a narrative disconnection.What more do you want
Like what? The battle of the Star Gate made all the G1 guys (and then some) go MIA for several years, leaving Earth free and clean of TFs for the CR cast to come in during the year 2000.
never mind, i MISS READ SOMETHINGo_O
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Well, you're not gonna get it since it was written as a self-contained adventure. It was only in post-CR fiction that the connection was made more explicit.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:a clear and direct connection from within the story.
Don't forget that season 3 took place in 2010 in Japanese continuity, meaning Spike and Daniel looked exactly the same 2005 as they did in 2010 and 2011 (Daniel, however, gets an excuse in that he was put in suspended animation after an accident).sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I should have said "possible" conflict
Gregory Swofford, appeared to be roughly Spikes age or just a bit older when he was injured in the fight Optimus had with Megatron.
Which, again by appearance, must have taken place between the very late 90's and 2002
which would be the time that Prime and Megs are missing based on what you told me.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
You're mad Animated gave him a voice?BeastProwl wrote:"Bumblebee shouldn't talk! he never did before animated! Glad they fixed him."
RAGE
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:When people think the G1 cartoon was the first piece of Transformers fiction ever, coming before all else and pretty being the foundation on which all post-1980's TF fiction was inspired by.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Sabrblade wrote:You're mad Animated gave him a voice?BeastProwl wrote:"Bumblebee shouldn't talk! he never did before animated! Glad they fixed him."
RAGE
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