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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:07 pm

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:All we need to know now is where she is, since she was aboard the Nemesis after it left Cybertron.

Nemesis = G1
Slipstream = Animated

They're different, mmmkay?

Not that Nemesis, this Nemesis:

Not that Slipstream, this Slipstream:

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:War for Cybertron... Exodus... Fall of Cybertron... Exiles... two online RPG games... The two "season 3.5" comics... AllSpark Almanac II

You're making this all up, aren't you?

I don't make things up. I'm talking about all these. Get with the times, man.

by **cotss2012** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:59 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Not that Nemesis, this Nemesis:

The name of that ship hasn't been given on-screen yet.

Sabrblade wrote:Not that Slipstream, this Slipstream:

Fan art isn't canon, though I would like to know where I can get more without risking serious brain-rape.

Sabrblade wrote:I don't make things up. I'm talking about all these...

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...get a girlfriend. Seriously, dedicating your life to knowing as much as possible about elements of a franchise that even the hardcore fans don't know about can't be healthy. Stick to what's on store shelves and TV screens like Trekkies do.

Anyway, getting back to my original point, Slipstream hasn't been on any Transformers TV shows other than Animated, so I'd very much like to see her on Prime.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:09 pm

cotss2012 wrote:...get a girlfriend. Seriously, dedicating your life to knowing as much as possible about elements of a franchise that even the hardcore fans don't know about can't be healthy.

Dude, you just insulted the entire TFWiki staff.

cotss2012 wrote:Stick to what's on store shelves and TV screens like Trekkies do.

Why should I? Why shouldn't I broaden my horizons? Why should I restrain myself from anything that isn't a toy, show, or movie? I am not that closed-minded. If I wanna read comics, play video games, read novels, go to conventions, talk and hang out with people, etc. then should have every right to do so.

No matter how many people wish it, the cartoons and movies are not the end all be all definitive versions of the Transformers canon. The other media are just as much a part of it. Everything is canon. No such dominate continuity exists.

Besides, it's not like this stuff is anything new. There have been plenty of news announcements made about them for many months now.

cotss2012 wrote:Anyway, getting back to my original point, Slipstream hasn't been on any Transformers TV shows other than Animated, so I'd very much like to see her on Prime.

And all I was saying was how she does exist in the Prime continuity, but we just don't know where she is right now or what happened to her back then.

by **cotss2012** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:24 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Dude, you just insulted the entire TFWiki staff.

Not unless the staff consists of one person.

Sabrblade wrote:Why should I?

Your bargaining posture is highly dubious, but very well. I shall provide you with a new body, and new troops to command...

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:03 pm

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Dude, you just insulted the entire TFWiki staff.

Not unless the staff consists of one person.

There tons of staff members running that Wiki. If it were one guy, then there's no way he'd be human.

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Why should I?

Your bargaining posture is highly dubious, but very well. I shall provide you with a new body, and new troops to command...

The fact of the matter is that these have been made well known for some time now. How could you not know of at least War for Cybertron?

by **Godzillabot Primal** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:14 pm

Make peace now! :-x

I am hoping to have some Hot Shot/Hot Rod type character that will compete with Arcee for Jack's attention, but in the end get into a relationship with her

by **cotss2012** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:17 pm

Sabrblade wrote:There tons of staff members running that Wiki. If it were one guy, then there's no way he'd be human.

Exactly. So I didn't insult any of them.

Sabrblade wrote:How could you not know of at least War for Cybertron?

I've been busy with watching Prime, playing Minecraft (though I recently re-sparked my Civ 4 addiction), posting on politics-related message boards/forums, finding a new place to live, learning Japanese, preparing the Halloween prototype of what will be my Comicon costume, and balancing all of the other things I do that prevent me from having a life. This geek cannot live on Transformers alone. I also have a few seasons of Code Lyoko that I've been meaning to watch for a few years now... and La Femme Nikita... and when that's done, maybe I can force myself to sit through the rest of Season 3 of the original Transformers.

godzillabot wrote:I am hoping to have some Hot Shot/Hot Rod type character that will compete with Arcee for Jack's attention, but in the end get into a relationship with her

Let the fanfictions commence!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:24 pm

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:There tons of staff members running that Wiki. If it were one guy, then there's no way he'd be human.

Exactly. So I didn't insult any of them.

And all of them (or at least most of them) have more TF knowledge than me.

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:How could you not know of at least War for Cybertron?

I've been busy with watching Prime, playing Minecraft (though I recently re-sparked my Civ 4 addiction), posting on politics-related message boards/forums, finding a new place to live, learning Japanese, preparing the Halloween prototype of what will be my Comicon costume, and balancing all of the other things I do that prevent me from having a life. This geek cannot live on Transformers alone. I also have a few seasons of Code Lyoko that I've been meaning to watch for a few years now... and La Femme Nikita... and when that's done, maybe I can force myself to sit through the rest of Season 3 of the original Transformers.

You're not the only one who has to balance fan interests with real life. Still, WFC was the biggest thing of 2010. You're the first person I met who knows nothing of it, as it's currently widely regarded as the greatest Transformers video game of all time (I haven't even played it, yet I've still gotten to fully experience it). But as far as Transformers goes, 2010 was all about War for Cybertron.

by **Godzillabot Primal** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:26 pm

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:There tons of staff members running that Wiki. If it were one guy, then there's no way he'd be human.

Exactly. So I didn't insult any of them.

Sabrblade wrote:How could you not know of at least War for Cybertron?

I've been busy with watching Prime, playing Minecraft (though I recently re-sparked my Civ 4 addiction), posting on politics-related message boards/forums, finding a new place to live, learning Japanese, preparing the Halloween prototype of what will be my Comicon costume, and balancing all of the other things I do that prevent me from having a life. This geek cannot live on Transformers alone. I also have a few seasons of Code Lyoko that I've been meaning to watch for a few years now... and La Femme Nikita... and when that's done, maybe I can force myself to sit through the rest of Season 3 of the original Transformers.

godzillabot wrote:I am hoping to have some Hot Shot/Hot Rod type character that will compete with Arcee for Jack's attention, but in the end get into a relationship with her

Let the fanfictions commence!

You disturb me. :-s

And for Primus' sake

:BANG_HEAD:

STOP ARGUING :BANG_HEAD:

by **cotss2012** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:33 pm

Sabrblade wrote:WFC was the biggest thing of 2010.

I respectfully disagree, good sir. The biggest thing of 2010 was this:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:57 pm

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:WFC was the biggest thing of 2010.

I respectfully disagree, good sir. The biggest thing of 2010 was this:

The biggest Transformers thing. I figured I didn't have to use that word since this is a Transformers discussion on a Transformers website.

godzillabot wrote:And for Primus' sake

STOP ARGUING

I'm quite enjoying this discussion, thank you very much.

by **cotss2012** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:30 pm

Sabrblade wrote:The biggest Transformers thing.

In that case, the honor goes to Darkness Rising.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:52 pm

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The biggest Transformers thing.

In that case, the honor goes to Darkness Rising.

Sorry, but Darkness Rising came late in November-December (with mixed reception, BTW). For all the month before then, War for Cybertron reigned supreme.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:34 pm

G1 Stalker so that he can get some air time and a bit of characterisation!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:38 pm

Burn wrote:G1 Stalker so that he can get some air time and a bit of characterisation!

He appeared in the European G1 catalog story "Predator Air Attack". As well as the IDW G1 stories "Megatron Origin" and "Last Stand of the Wreckers." One can have characterisation without air time.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:43 pm

I'm well aware of his appearance thank you Mr Smarty Pants. But I, Self-Proclaimed President of the Stalker Appreciation Society DEMAND he receive some air time characterisation to make up for previous appearances.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:49 pm

Burn wrote:I'm well aware of his appearance thank you Mr Smarty Pants. But I, Self-Proclaimed President of the Stalker Appreciation Society DEMAND he receive some air time characterisation to make up for previous appearances.

Okie dokey. He can be Soundwave's twin brother in neon. :lol:

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:18 pm

No, he's going to be his own character with no connection to any other character.

Blasphemer.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:22 pm

Burn wrote:No, he's going to be his own character with no connection to any other character.

Blasphemer.

Chill man. Sheesh. Just a jab at how he keeps getting redecoed as Soundwave.

How bout he be a former acquaintance of Skyquake, eh?

by **cotss2012** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:32 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Darkness Rising came late in November-December (with mixed reception, BTW). For all the month before then, War for Cybertron reigned supreme.

So? By the end of the year, all of the buzz was about Prime.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:33 pm

cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Darkness Rising came late in November-December (with mixed reception, BTW). For all the month before then, War for Cybertron reigned supreme.

So? By the end of the year, all of the buzz was about Prime.

One month =/= majority of 2010, which was what War for Cybertorn's publicity constituted.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:48 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Chill man. Sheesh. Just a jab at how he keeps getting redecoed as Soundwave.

Oh dear, you suffered a case of the seriousnesses.

Silly Sabrblade taking me seriously. ahhhh classic.

by **cotss2012** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:17 am

Sabrblade wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Darkness Rising came late in November-December (with mixed reception, BTW). For all the month before then, War for Cybertron reigned supreme.

So? By the end of the year, all of the buzz was about Prime.
One month =/= majority of 2010, which was what War for Cybertorn's publicity constituted.

Prime is a more important, more widely known part of the franchise. It started in 2010. The fact that it did not exist during the majority of the year is irrelevant. You might as well claim that Green Lantern was "bigger" than Captain America just because it hit theaters first :roll:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:49 am

cotss2012 wrote:Prime is a more important, more widely known part of the franchise.

More important, you say? Then explain how, between the two, WFC gets the most praise, and Prime gets the mixed reception?

cotss2012 wrote:It started in 2010.

Yes, but it didn't become a hit until 2011.

Here's an example of an early reaction to Darkness Rising:

cotss2012 wrote:The fact that it did not exist during the majority of the year is irrelevant.

It kinda does considering how the game coming out first gave it more time to become more widely known and acclaimed.

The fact of the matter is, between the two, WFC has been almost unanimously loved, while Prime less so. This site alone is littered with posts that say things like "I hate how they're trying to shove the amazing War for Cybertron game in with that awful Prime cartoon. The two should not be forced in together! :evil:

" I myself don't think this, but many others here do.

cotss2012 wrote:You might as well claim that Green Lantern was "bigger" than Captain America just because it hit theaters first

In that case, however, it was reversed. While Green Lantern came first, it was met with mixed reception, whereas Captain America came later and was well received. It's a backwards comparison to this case.

by **cotss2012** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:07 am

Sabrblade wrote:More important, you say? Then explain how, between the two, WFC gets the most praise, and Prime gets the mixed reception?

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The fact of the matter is, between the two, WFC has been almost unanimously loved, while Prime less so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transforme ... #Reception
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transforme ... #Reception

If they were in school, War for Cybertron would be getting a "C" in every class, whereas Prime would be the Prom King and student body president.

However, let's see which one sells more toys in the end

Sabrblade wrote:This site alone is littered with posts that say things like "I hate how they're trying to shove the amazing War for Cybertron game in with that awful Prime cartoon. The two should not be forced in together! "

I haven't seen any such posts. Mostly, I see a lot of "Michael bay's movies suck" threads.