The Energon Pub

-Kanrabat- wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:Here's Big Convoy standing next to his beastmode.

Your point?

I think the point is that there are not two toys in that photograph. That is one toy with the shell popped off, and you still have both a complete robot mode, and a mostly complete (enough to be convincing) beast mode.

The best shell forming figure in my collection would probably be the Prime Vehicon(s) - almost the whole top of the alt-mode ends up in the legs

I don't think I would class Classics Megatron as a shellformer. Ok, he has those massive wings but I think there is enough going on with the other parts within the wings to make up for them.

Ravage XK wrote:I don't think I would class Classics Megatron as a shellformer. Ok, he has those massive wings but I think there is enough going on with the other parts within the wings to make up for them.

If Unicron classifies as one according to this list, then Classics Megs would be, too. More so even then Unicron, in my opinion.

Other stuff going on is fine and dandy, but if the majority of the alt mode is a shell that folds over the condensed robot mode, then I'd say shellformer. Just take it as proof that not all shellformers are bad or overly simplistic.

I wouldn't class Unicron as a shall former either, he has those wings that cover a portion of his body but then so does G1/MP Grimlock.

Yotsuyasan wrote:(...) it would be Break.

Why?

'Cause he's a mother fraking penguin, that's why!




Also, he forms a gun that poops at you. Poop gun!



(Break photos from TFU.info.)

That's a funny one! If I ever see it for cheap, I may indulge. Also, his name is Break. Is it because he don't transform but instead, he... break appart?

Yotsuyasan wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:Here's Big Convoy standing next to his beastmode.

Your point?

I think the point is that there are not two toys in that photograph. That is one toy with the shell popped off, and you still have both a complete robot mode, and a mostly complete (enough to be convincing) beast mode.

Pointing out the obvious is not the point of this thread. That picture was made to bitch and moan about how "bad" shelformers are. The goal of the thread is to point out the best ones or your favorites.
It's to find the POSITIVES for once.

Also, if at least half the altmode is made out of a shell, it is a kinda shellformer, as explained in my first post.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I won't comment on mot, but Galvatron is a horrendous Transformer. When pretty much the entire cab is the backpack and when there is next to no integration between robot and alternate mode, that is a failure on multiple levels.

At least it was easy to transform and he didn't really transform in the movie. why not complain about every other shellformer?

Honestly I feel that Unicron and Sentinel Prime do not qualify as shellformers. Most transformers are going to have alt mode kibble on their bot modes, for simplicity's sake and purposeful aesthetic design. Shellformers are transformers that don't integrate any of their alt mode parts into their robot mode, and to transform they just fold up and let their alt mode parts form around them. Generally you could remove the shell parts and form the alt mode separately, as someone demonstrated with that famous Big Convoy picture. So for Unicron, who is 75% folded up robot in planet mode, and Sentinel Prime, whose truck morphs into his legs, I don't think they qualify. That's my two cents.

As for my favorite shellformers, I actually don't own many but I will say that I love Big Convoy because of the detail that was put into him. His mammoth heads have big missile clusters sculpted into them, you get tonfa under his arms, you've got Beast Wars Megatron-esque projectile launchers in his shins from the mammoth sides, and if you have any sort of imagination you can turn the legs on his hips around to make more cluster missile launchers. Dude is armed to the tooth. Honestly his worst accessory is actually his handheld gun, because it's the entire trunk, middle head, back, and tail of the mammoth. It's large and unwieldy, and I wish it had separated into smaller parts.

I don't own AOE Galvatron but from what I've seen I'm pretty forgiving of him. In the film, all the neo-Decepticons transform by magic. They disassemble into little particles and reassemble in their new form. Resultingly, they have even less alt mode kibble on their robot modes than most of the guys in AOE (which is saying something), because they don't transform in the usual way. You literally can't replicate that in a toy, and with the push for simpler transformations across the board from Hasbro they apparently couldn't engineer in some better integration or hiding places for the truck parts on Galvy's bot mode. So I can forgive that particular toy for doing what it does.

How about Generations Rhinox most of his outer shell folds in to become a part of the Robot mode and anything that could be classed as kibble is accurate to the show.

MP Magnus...if he qualifies. I mean really that's two big shells in one and the only kibble to complain about is a butt flap.

Oh yeah, forgot about him! The RID Bros are awesome.

I'm really liking my Optimus EX Prime

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I won't comment on mot, but Galvatron is a horrendous Transformer. When pretty much the entire cab is the backpack and when there is next to no integration between robot and alternate mode, that is a failure on multiple levels.

At least it was easy to transform and he didn't really transform in the movie. why not complain about every other shellformer?

Because for me the others didn't suck nearly as much and aren't attached to such a horrendous movie.

Can't come up with 5! But the ones I have that may qualify are Star Wars Transformers Death Star Darth Vader(he's a pest to try to get all the panels aligned correctly!) Star Wars Transformers Imperial Destroyer/Jedi Ship/Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker(his kibble alone can form another vessel), & Generations Rhinox(again a pest to try to get everything aligned) Oh & Capbots! + there's also this KO shoeformer that looks like Megatron(well his head does).

weird how people have mentioned Unicron but not Primus! doesn't he count too?