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Erailea wrote:Buying toys & comics as an investment doesn't come across as a wise decision. Buy 'em, enjoy them in whatever way you see fit (free and playable or decorated MISB) and hope that one day you can make money off them. Doesn't matter what you buy - toys, art, antiques, etc - if you buy it because you like it and in 20 years it's not worth much more than you paid for it (or it's worth even less) you at least were able to enjoy it for the time frame in which you had it. If it happens to appreciate in cost, it makes you even happier. If you bought it strictly as an investment chance are you're going to be very disappointed.
It's not totally stupid to think toys could be worth something later, though. Being a fan of tin toys I can say that there are some vintage ones that fetch rather handsome prices. But like anything it depends on the toy, the condition and the maker. And the number of toys that bring in big money are fewer in number than those that bring in little.
I think people just get excited when they see things go for wicked amounts of money and they want to try and cash in, not realizing that wildly popular things usually end up being worth very little later on because everyone had them (they're super mass produced). It's the stuff that goes mostly unnoticed and see's a revitalization in the future that has a greater chance of being worth something later on (ex: Suikoden II *curses* I need to replace my copy of the game, but the fragging thing goes for $100+ used, $200+ new because it tanked in stores *flips table* ).
fenrir72 wrote:Yeah. I remember that. It either was released in limited quantities (the game)or stank/was not appreciated( great game btw) but now it commands high prices due to the word of mouth demand. Same with Xenogears.
ScottyP wrote:I've said it before and will say it again - it's impossible to know what's going to appreciate like crazy, and what won't. Did anyone think 5-6 years ago that Movie leaders would inflate like they have? No, you probably thought Walmart MP Skywarp would, and look at that.
RAcast wrote:Ah, stupid people.The stock market exists for a reason, if you're dead set on investing, invest SMARTLY. I mean, if you wanting to invest a few hundred dollars somewhere random, sure, but THOUSANDS? I can't say I have much sympathy for something so short-sighted.
Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Bowspearer wrote:Caught this and felt the need to address it as an aside before getting to the topic at hand.RAcast wrote:Ah, stupid people.The stock market exists for a reason, if you're dead set on investing, invest SMARTLY. I mean, if you wanting to invest a few hundred dollars somewhere random, sure, but THOUSANDS? I can't say I have much sympathy for something so short-sighted.
On the contrary, with the looming global financial meltdown which several economists are predicting in the coming weeks, combined with bail in legislation (legalised deposit stealing to prop up the banks through a weekend long bankruptcy reorganisation - if you read the "Key Attributes" as laid out by the FSB) which the Bank of International Stability is pushing through the Financial Stability Board; investing in the stock market, or even leaving your money in the bank is about as wise as holding it near a naked flame.
The best option for people currently is to invest in precious metals. This may have been skating close to the political, but it was worth making a note of.
Now to the topic at hand.
I think it really depends why you're buying in bulk and the deal you get.
Case in point, a while back when Encore Ratchets and Ironhides hit rock bottom at $20 a pop, I splurged out on a case of each of them.
My logic here wasn't so much how much it was going to make me down the track, but how much it was going to save me down the track.
1 pair went to a pair of transfan friends as an additional wedding present. The other five I will sit on and hopefully give away as gifts to my kids when they come along. The kicker of all of this is that if I give them even the pair in a single gift, it'll only cost me $15 more than what a deluxe retails for out there.
So in short, it depends on just what what you define as financial reasons really. Let's face it, it's highly unlikely that I'd be able to buy my kids reissues for $20 a pop, 10 years down the track.
fenrir72 wrote:Yeah. I remember that. It either was released in limited quantities (the game)or stank/was not appreciated( great game btw) but now it commands high prices due to the word of mouth demand. Same with Xenogears.
mooncake623 wrote:Anyway back on topic. nothing popular is really going to hold value in Transformers. If something is going for crazy prices and you own it at the moment. you might as well get rid of it cause it will be reissued. (fortmax)(second run of MP soundwave, MP sideswipe) or KO'd (HA Jazz) or People might lose interest in it (Fansproject City Comander) That is if you're on the fence about it and or doesn't fit in your collection anymore.
RAcast wrote:mooncake623 wrote:Anyway back on topic. nothing popular is really going to hold value in Transformers. If something is going for crazy prices and you own it at the moment. you might as well get rid of it cause it will be reissued. (fortmax)(second run of MP soundwave, MP sideswipe) or KO'd (HA Jazz) or People might lose interest in it (Fansproject City Comander) That is if you're on the fence about it and or doesn't fit in your collection anymore.
I don't think anyone's lost interest in City Commander, since there's STILL no official G1 UM. It's just that the hype has died down and it's usually sold at a reasonable price (another example of priced bumped up by hype just for it to pegwarm later, albeit in ASIA, would be Dotm Que and Soundwave).
mooncake623 wrote:RAcast wrote:mooncake623 wrote:Anyway back on topic. nothing popular is really going to hold value in Transformers. If something is going for crazy prices and you own it at the moment. you might as well get rid of it cause it will be reissued. (fortmax)(second run of MP soundwave, MP sideswipe) or KO'd (HA Jazz) or People might lose interest in it (Fansproject City Comander) That is if you're on the fence about it and or doesn't fit in your collection anymore.
I don't think anyone's lost interest in City Commander, since there's STILL no official G1 UM. It's just that the hype has died down and it's usually sold at a reasonable price (another example of priced bumped up by hype just for it to pegwarm later, albeit in ASIA, would be Dotm Que and Soundwave).
I definitely lost Interest in city commander. Really wanted one when the add on set was at $250 and the white UM was around $100, but I just couldn't pull the trigger... then I brought the newer henkei UM release.. and prices on the trailer dropped dramatically (due to KOs, re-re-reissues, and lost of interest from outdatedness?/) but I no longer want it...
xyl360 wrote:mooncake623 wrote:RAcast wrote:mooncake623 wrote:Anyway back on topic. nothing popular is really going to hold value in Transformers. If something is going for crazy prices and you own it at the moment. you might as well get rid of it cause it will be reissued. (fortmax)(second run of MP soundwave, MP sideswipe) or KO'd (HA Jazz) or People might lose interest in it (Fansproject City Comander) That is if you're on the fence about it and or doesn't fit in your collection anymore.
I don't think anyone's lost interest in City Commander, since there's STILL no official G1 UM. It's just that the hype has died down and it's usually sold at a reasonable price (another example of priced bumped up by hype just for it to pegwarm later, albeit in ASIA, would be Dotm Que and Soundwave).
I definitely lost Interest in city commander. Really wanted one when the add on set was at $250 and the white UM was around $100, but I just couldn't pull the trigger... then I brought the newer henkei UM release.. and prices on the trailer dropped dramatically (due to KOs, re-re-reissues, and lost of interest from outdatedness?/) but I no longer want it...
Yeah, I think you're better off waiting at this point. I'm still confident that Takara is going to do *something* for UM, I just don't know what yet (please MP with combining trailer action!).
Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Mykltron wrote:Crazy.
I don't care if my MP-10 has gone up or down in value. I love him and love playing with him. If they value dropped to £5 I wouldn't care.
Sledge wrote:Finally! Wheelie will get the credit he's due with a set of five Wheelies.
ScottyP wrote:Kid 1 "What did you get for Christmas?"
Kid 2 "Steve.........What did you get?"
Kid 1 "John Cena!"
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