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Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
ThunderThruster wrote:Both of them do.
Watch closly, cause they both turn into the same animation model (Cyclonus) which to quote Unicron
"Cyclonus and his armada".
The bigger question you should be asking is which one became the soon to be missing armada!?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
And you do realize that a good amount of those generic seekers and Insecticons seen in early season 1 and early season 3 were part of massive animation errors. The movie wasn't without these errors too. And those three seekers working for shockwave were the Rainmakers (Acid Storm is the green one).orn14 wrote:Thundercracker and Skywarp was among the crowd of Starscream`s coronation. Those seekers which were thrown out of Astrotrain might be possible seekers with similar colours as TC and SW. Those seekers didn`t talk anything during movie. Neither used TF:s or SW:s special powers, like teleportation.. Early episodes of TF-cartoon there was huge amount of anomymous seekers, many of them have almost same coloration as Thundercracker. Shockwave also had lots of seekers under his command. Thundercracker had tomb at Decepticon crypt on Season 3, maybe he was shot down by Unicron? Skywarp might have survived. Insecticons can be seen during beginning of Season 3, plus at least one clone insecticon.
Most believe that insecticons thrown out of Astrotrain were clones... Decepticons, if necessary, might get more insecticons and seeker warriors from Cybetron ( in 2005 they have conquered whole planet, so likely there would been huge armada of different types decepticons)
I just made some speculations that most of those mentioned characters might survived at Season 3, and fans can sleep well at nights...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
The info on these two pages seems to show more evidence of Bombshell's corpse becoming Cyclonus than Skywarp's.
Most believe that insecticons thrown out of Astrotrain were clones...
The 'Armada' never replacated itself. It showed up once as a single entity, and then was never seen again.Zombie Starscream wrote:Wouldn't it make sense for Bombshell to be the 'Armada' since he has the ability to replicate himself? He could make an army out of himself...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
TechnoSeeds wrote:I never understood whey they didn't just fix Optimus like they did Ultra Magnus.![]()
DecepticonsAttack77 wrote:I know that site is not the most reliable source for info but I've seen that movie countless times since I was a little kid in 1986 and even at 9 years old I could figure out who became Cyclonus!If I missed something all these years then someone please correct me.
Scorpulator wrote:
As for the whole armada thing, there is something that just doesn't make any sense. The definition of "armada" means a large fleet of ships. Since when is one ship considered a large fleet?
Zombie Starscream wrote:Wouldn't it make sense for Bombshell to be the 'Armada' since he has the ability to replicate himself? He could make an army out of himself...
Sabrblade wrote:The 'Armada' never replacated itself. It showed up once as a single entity, and then was never seen again.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
I was referring to throughout the duration of the movie. The rest of the season 3 can be summed up with possible 'Armadas' or more animation errors.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The 'Armada' never replacated itself. It showed up once as a single entity, and then was never seen again.
Not entirely accurate.
A group of Cyclonus look a likes were seen in "5 faces of darkness".
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I was referring to throughout the duration of the movie. The rest of the season 3 can be summed up with possible 'Armadas' or more animation errors.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The 'Armada' never replacated itself. It showed up once as a single entity, and then was never seen again.
Not entirely accurate.
A group of Cyclonus look a likes were seen in "5 faces of darkness".
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
ThunderThruster wrote:Both of them do.
Watch closly, cause they both turn into the same animation model (Cyclonus) which to quote Unicron
"Cyclonus and his armada".
The bigger question you should be asking is which one became the soon to be missing armada!?
Sabrblade wrote:Ya'll might wanna look here:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Cyclonus_%28G1%29#Who_is_Cyclonus.3F
And here:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Cyclonus%27s_Armada
The info on these two pages seems to show more evidence of Bombshell's corpse becoming Cyclonus than Skywarp's.
Scorpulator wrote:Like I said before, Masterpiece Skywarp comes with Cyclonus stickers. What more proof would anyone need? As far as I'm concerned, it's case closed.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
You both need to look at something. The sticker decals for MP Skywarp don't make any mention to Cyclonus. The only one that makes any kind of reference to Cyclonus is one that says "Armada Decepticon".sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Scorpulator wrote:Like I said before, Masterpiece Skywarp comes with Cyclonus stickers. What more proof would anyone need? As far as I'm concerned, it's case closed.
"What more proof would anyone need? ",
How about some actual proof.
Your so called "proof" amounts to nothing since both "Armada" and "Cyclonus" shared the same exact body design.
So any sticker that you claim is "Cyclonus can be equally argued to be "Armada".
Even if one of the stickers say's the "name" Cyclonus it could be argued that since Armadas was part of Cyclonus'es personal troop, the name was placed there to honor his commander.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:You both need to look at something. The sticker decals for MP Skywarp don't make any mention to Cyclonus. The only one that makes any kind of reference to Cyclonus is one that says "Armada Decepticon".sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Scorpulator wrote:Like I said before, Masterpiece Skywarp comes with Cyclonus stickers. What more proof would anyone need? As far as I'm concerned, it's case closed.
"What more proof would anyone need? ",
How about some actual proof.
Your so called "proof" amounts to nothing since both "Armada" and "Cyclonus" shared the same exact body design.
So any sticker that you claim is "Cyclonus can be equally argued to be "Armada".
Even if one of the stickers say's the "name" Cyclonus it could be argued that since Armadas was part of Cyclonus'es personal troop, the name was placed there to honor his commander.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
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