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TulioDude wrote:I believe that these headlines are overselling the idea of how much control Michael Bay has over the Transformers
We can conclude while Michael Bay still gives his feedback to ideas and other aspects, he is a part of larger team. Paramount and Hasbro show to understand that Transformers are too big, to have just one voice deciding everything.
First-Aid wrote:
OK. I have to say this is impressive work. Well done putting all this stuff together. And I agree 100%.
william-james88 wrote:Yes, Michael Bay is part of a team of producers, but he still has as much power as anyone else, not less. Also, he is CEO of the Bay Films production company which helps to bankroll these movies, along with simply being a producer of the movies. So that adds an extra wrinkle to how much he has invested and the power he has.
cloudballoon wrote:
Is it really 100% "bad timing" or was Paramount soundly beat at the Box office by its rivals with better products though? IIRC Paramount was gun-ho being the first studio to reserve that time block to premiere? Then its rivals came, saw, and was like "Sure... I'm afraid of no ROTB." I think bad strategy played a bigger role than just blame on "bad timing."
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TulioDude wrote:If Paramount chooses a date for the film first and another movie chooses a nearby date, should they have to move it to another date?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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TulioDude wrote:
That's great to hear!
The film did a good job with the setting in Peru.
cloudballoon wrote:TulioDude wrote:
That's great to hear!
The film did a good job with the setting in Peru.
But... but... all I hear in the movie was "Brooklyn, Baby!"
While Peru was featured as a setting, it feels so... background-ny to me. I thought we'd get more.
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TulioDude wrote:I agree that the Brooklyn aspect didn't feel necessary, but the parts at Peru itself, did represent the country as a unique setting. Many movies would've just said "somewhere in south america" and cut the scene to a jungle. It seens a small thing, but it means a lot to the peolple who live there.
cloudballoon wrote:TulioDude wrote:
That's great to hear!
The film did a good job with the setting in Peru.
But... but... all I hear in the movie was "Brooklyn, Baby!"
While Peru was featured as a setting, it feels so... background-ny to me. I thought we'd get more.
william-james88 wrote:cloudballoon wrote:TulioDude wrote:
That's great to hear!
The film did a good job with the setting in Peru.
But... but... all I hear in the movie was "Brooklyn, Baby!"
While Peru was featured as a setting, it feels so... background-ny to me. I thought we'd get more.
And the Brooklyn scenes weren't even shot there, they were shot in Montreal.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
cloudballoon wrote:TulioDude wrote:I agree that the Brooklyn aspect didn't feel necessary, but the parts at Peru itself, did represent the country as a unique setting. Many movies would've just said "somewhere in south america" and cut the scene to a jungle. It seens a small thing, but it means a lot to the peolple who live there.
That's true. Who'd have thought a TF movie would do better than many other, more serious movies. I'm just greedy and wanted to see more of Peru in ROTB, as we know there are more footage than what we saw in theatre.
I hope the bonus features in the DVD do show a bit more. And we can dream of a Director's Cut, can we?
First-Aid wrote:
It's amazing how many movies are being shot outside the main studios in Hollywood. Georgia and Vancouver are becoming very prevalent in movie-making. Why NOT shoot in Brooklyn for a Brooklyn scene? Availability of areas is one possibility. Taxes and costs are the most likely scenario though. That's a large contributor to why so many movie studios are moving outside LA/California. Just too expensive to shoot there anymore, let alone house the size of the cast and crew temporarily anymore.
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Unfortunately, it'll likely involve the original launch of the AllSpark from Cybertron, which has since became the default go-to for the evergreen Transformers backstory.Tyrannacon wrote:I swear if Transformers One indicates even slightly some type of MacGuffin I'm going to bellow so loud that everyone in the next town over can hear me. XD![]()
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Unfortunately, it'll likely involve the original launch of the AllSpark from Cybertron, which has since became the default go-to for the evergreen Transformers backstory.Tyrannacon wrote:I swear if Transformers One indicates even slightly some type of MacGuffin I'm going to bellow so loud that everyone in the next town over can hear me. XD![]()
At the end of the day, the brand still wouldn't be so shackled to the Bay movies if said Bay movies hadn't made billions upon billions of dollars for Hasbro. That's really what it boils down to.
I modelled the head, face, and battle mask for Optimus Prime for #Transformers ROTB.
I also designed his new "centurion" open battle mask look along with it's animation.
The director wanted the face to resemble the face from the 2007 Transformers film as ROTB was a soft-prequel to it but also wanted it to be tweaked to fit the new design and for us to give it some new unique features.
This is where we came up with the new mask design which doesn't get entirely hidden when open. Instead, it gets stored on the side of his cheeks, like a Roman centurions helmet.
The head design is derived from his model from the 2018 Bumblebee film to keep some consistency with that film too as ROTB was also a soft-sequel to Bumblebee. There are new pieces, adjusted proportions, and reworks to detailing in ROTBs version.
The face proportions are modified from the 2007 face to be a lot wider and beefier, matching his new head shape and look.
I redesigned and built the eyes from scratch using our kitbash pieces like I did for all the Maximals and Mirage. The studio decided against going for the holographic eyes look from the 2018 Bumblebee film but rather wanted a more simple look in between the 2007 and the 2018 eyes.
I added a lot of small mechanical details to his battle mask animation which we unfortunately never get to see in the film. For example, I designed a fully functional mechanism which pushes his chin piece back when his mask closes. This was very cool when it was visible, our Animation Director and VFX Supervisors were super excited about it, but unfortunately no shot showed it off in the final film.
It was a lot of fun to help model and design Optimus Prime for this film. I'm happy I got to contribute to such an iconic character.
CREDITS:
Video: Paramount, MPC, WetaFX
Ruairidh MacNeill modelled the body for Optimus
Let me clarify that despite being a Lead on this show, I personally did not decide to do any of these changes. All of these decisions came from senior leadership in the VFX studio, Paramount, and the director. We are usually provided with concept art or at least references for what needs to be done and we have to do it that way.
The only bit of this design which I had creative freedom for was the centurion battle mask, which also had a few different versions which I showed to the director, Paramount, and VFX leadership team for approval.
I’m glad the teams work on breathing emotions into his facial expressions paid off, I remember how hard everyone worked on them!
My personal favourite Optimus Prime design is the Dark of the Moon one so I do agree with you. I pushed back on some of the studio notes but at the end of the day we have to do what the studio tells us to do.
It was decided by the leadership team to add a bit of deformation to the faces of the characters to help them emote.
The reason [to show his face under the mask] was because they needed him to emote and it’s really difficult to do that with just the mask. The 2018 Prime is more of a cameo than anything so it works, for this film they wanted him to show emotions through his facial performance.
Despite what the director has said online, we never got the note [to make the face look like Cullen] from the studio or from him. The official note we received from Paramount was "make it look like Optimus from 2007"
Perhaps the 2007 design was inspired by Peter Cullens face and that's what he meant.
[There are] Around 1,350 [pieces on the head alone] if I remember correctly.
Too long for 3-quote max wrote:Shadowman: Ryan isn't becoming a daddy, is he? That just struck me.
The Mad A**hatter: Ryan has a woman?
shadowman: He's already married. To his job.
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Burn: WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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