The Energon Pub

Autobots and or Decepticons

1) Jazz.

2) Bonecrusher.

3) Blackout.

4) Devastator.

5) Arcee.


The End

The Twins, 100% serious. I wanted to see them mature in character and become better warriors, maybe even pull a combiner mode out of nowhere.

Capt.Failure wrote:The Twins, 100% serious. I wanted to see them mature in character and become better warriors, maybe even pull a combiner mode out of nowhere.

Me too.

The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

This too! I hope they at least mention The Fallen in DOTM. He was too big to kill off in one movie. Hopefully his essence doesn't die in DOTM.

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

And as previously mentioned, I'd have liked Arcee and company to have survived.

Sideways... Didn't he hold the record for fastest death? What was he in the movie for like, 2 seconds?

Oh, and I agree with the Fallen, too powerful to be taken down that fast. It was cheap character development. So sad.

Sailor Destron wrote:Sideways... Didn't he hold the record for fastest death? What was he in the movie for like, 2 seconds?

Oh, and I agree with the Fallen, too powerful to be taken down that fast. It was cheap character development. So sad.

About 45 seconds to be exact.

Shadowman wrote:

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

This too. While I don't consider RotF's final battle to be a bad one, it'd be awesome if in the next film series Unicron ressurects the Fallen into a new body without the age and decay that weakened him in the first series.

Capt.Failure wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

This too. While I don't consider RotF's final battle to be a bad one, it'd be awesome if in the next film series Unicron ressurects the Fallen into a new body without the age and decay that weakened him in the first series.

This is why I could almost see the series go into 5 movies. Do similar to X-men perhaps and do one with unicron, and the last one, perhaps do almost a "prequil" begining up to the landing on earth and discovering megs.

I'd like to see the Fallen, Jazz, and the constructicons though again.

dirk2243 wrote:This is why I could almost see the series go into 5 movies. Do similar to X-men perhaps and do one with unicron, and the last one, perhaps do almost a "prequil" begining up to the landing on earth and discovering megs.

6 movies would be perfect. They would be bound to get at least one right.

dirk2243 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

This too. While I don't consider RotF's final battle to be a bad one, it'd be awesome if in the next film series Unicron ressurects the Fallen into a new body without the age and decay that weakened him in the first series.

This is why I could almost see the series go into 5 movies. Do similar to X-men perhaps and do one with unicron, and the last one, perhaps do almost a "prequil" begining up to the landing on earth and discovering megs.

I'd like to see the Fallen, Jazz, and the constructicons though again.

Why the hell are you all going on about the lousy movie characters......forget them. The greatest injustice ever done in the whole TF universe is when Hasbro thought the best way to introduce new characters was the wholesale slaughter of the original Transformers via Transformers the Movie. The real movie........
Especially Prowl....his melting from the inside death was horrible and gave me nightmares. His face.....ugh........
As far as the Bayformers go, I welcome the wholesale slaughter of each and every one of them. Thankfully, after this piece of slag comes out in July, we will finally be free of Michael Bay's cancerous presence in the mythos of the Transformers.

gambit020480 wrote:

dirk2243 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

This too. While I don't consider RotF's final battle to be a bad one, it'd be awesome if in the next film series Unicron ressurects the Fallen into a new body without the age and decay that weakened him in the first series.

This is why I could almost see the series go into 5 movies. Do similar to X-men perhaps and do one with unicron, and the last one, perhaps do almost a "prequil" begining up to the landing on earth and discovering megs.

I'd like to see the Fallen, Jazz, and the constructicons though again.

Why the hell are you all going on about the lousy movie characters......forget them. The greeatest injustice ever done in the whol TF universe is when Hasbro thought the best way to introduce new characters was the wholesale slaughter of the original Transformers via Transformers the Movie. The real movie........
Especially Prowl....his melting from the inside death was horrible and gave me nightmares. His face.....ugh........
As far as the Bayformers go, I welcome the wholesale slaughter of each and every one of them. Thankfully, after this piece of slag comes out in July, we will finally be free of Michael Bay's cancerous presence in the mythos of the Transformers.

Why the hell do people keep pushing me!? I only have a bit of sanity left.

gambit020480 wrote:

dirk2243 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

This too. While I don't consider RotF's final battle to be a bad one, it'd be awesome if in the next film series Unicron ressurects the Fallen into a new body without the age and decay that weakened him in the first series.

This is why I could almost see the series go into 5 movies. Do similar to X-men perhaps and do one with unicron, and the last one, perhaps do almost a "prequil" begining up to the landing on earth and discovering megs.

I'd like to see the Fallen, Jazz, and the constructicons though again.

Why the hell are you all going on about the lousy movie characters......forget them. The greeatest injustice ever done in the whol TF universe is when Hasbro thought the best way to introduce new characters was the wholesale slaughter of the original Transformers via Transformers the Movie. The real movie........
Especially Prowl....his melting from the inside death was horrible and gave me nightmares. His face.....ugh........
As far as the Bayformers go, I welcome the wholesale slaughter of each and every one of them. Thankfully, after this piece of slag comes out in July, we will finally be free of Michael Bay's cancerous presence in the mythos of the Transformers.

Lighten up. The REAL movie, come on.

Back on topic. Frenzy died a good death. Makes me want to see his identical brother, Rumble. You know, the blue-eyed one.

matt0812 wrote:Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

This is Bay we're talking about, he doesn't care for source material

Anyways here's my list:


1.Jazz
2.Blackout
3.Optimus Prime (I would of preffered his death for the last film, in a sacrifice, knowing he'll be back doesn't make me sad for him.... in the '86 film, we didn't expect a revival)
4.Megatron (He was only in the first for 30 minutes.... plus he revived in ROTF so really unnesscecary... I'd rather have him revived in the first film's end, and live on in the sequels)
5.Barricade (is he dead or what?)
6.Sideways (I mean this in a way... he died too quickly, sideswipe should have had a rival)
7.Bonecrusher

that's it...

Offtopic: Bumblebee NEEDS TO DIE IN DOTM...

RhA wrote:

gambit020480 wrote:

dirk2243 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

This too. While I don't consider RotF's final battle to be a bad one, it'd be awesome if in the next film series Unicron ressurects the Fallen into a new body without the age and decay that weakened him in the first series.

This is why I could almost see the series go into 5 movies. Do similar to X-men perhaps and do one with unicron, and the last one, perhaps do almost a "prequil" begining up to the landing on earth and discovering megs.

I'd like to see the Fallen, Jazz, and the constructicons though again.

Why the hell are you all going on about the lousy movie characters......forget them. The greeatest injustice ever done in the whol TF universe is when Hasbro thought the best way to introduce new characters was the wholesale slaughter of the original Transformers via Transformers the Movie. The real movie........
Especially Prowl....his melting from the inside death was horrible and gave me nightmares. His face.....ugh........
As far as the Bayformers go, I welcome the wholesale slaughter of each and every one of them. Thankfully, after this piece of slag comes out in July, we will finally be free of Michael Bay's cancerous presence in the mythos of the Transformers.

Lighten up. The REAL movie, come on.

Back on topic. Frenzy died a good death. Makes me want to see his identical brother, Rumble. You know, the blue-eyed one.

The ORIGINAL movie was and still is a thousand times better than the live action crap. Michael Bay is a horrible director and his solution to everything is throwing money at it. To hell with plot or character development, just blow massive amounts of **** up for two thirds of the movie. Then, to fill 10% of the overall time, show stuff in slow motion....especially helicopters and sunsets...Show Megan fox's chest for the rest...... collect check.......repeat three times to create trilogy...etc
Its lame and fancy graphics will never trump a good story and acting.

gambit020480 wrote:

RhA wrote:

gambit020480 wrote:

dirk2243 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

This too. While I don't consider RotF's final battle to be a bad one, it'd be awesome if in the next film series Unicron ressurects the Fallen into a new body without the age and decay that weakened him in the first series.

This is why I could almost see the series go into 5 movies. Do similar to X-men perhaps and do one with unicron, and the last one, perhaps do almost a "prequil" begining up to the landing on earth and discovering megs.

I'd like to see the Fallen, Jazz, and the constructicons though again.

Why the hell are you all going on about the lousy movie characters......forget them. The greeatest injustice ever done in the whol TF universe is when Hasbro thought the best way to introduce new characters was the wholesale slaughter of the original Transformers via Transformers the Movie. The real movie........
Especially Prowl....his melting from the inside death was horrible and gave me nightmares. His face.....ugh........
As far as the Bayformers go, I welcome the wholesale slaughter of each and every one of them. Thankfully, after this piece of slag comes out in July, we will finally be free of Michael Bay's cancerous presence in the mythos of the Transformers.

Lighten up. The REAL movie, come on.

Back on topic. Frenzy died a good death. Makes me want to see his identical brother, Rumble. You know, the blue-eyed one.

The ORIGINAL movie was and still is a thousand times better than the live action crap. Michael Bay is a horrible director and his solution to everything is throwing money at it. To hell with plot or character development, just blow massive amounts of **** up for two thirds of the movie. Then, to fill 10% of the overall time, show stuff in slow motion....especially helicopters and sunsets...Show Megan fox's chest for the rest...... collect check.......repeat three times to create trilogy...etc
Its lame and fancy graphics will never trump a good story and acting.

Unless you count money, that is.

gambit020480 wrote:

RhA wrote:

gambit020480 wrote:

dirk2243 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

matt0812 wrote:The Fallen. The Charecter wasn't developed enough for me, I mean look at the title: Revenge of the Fallen, what revenge did he obtain other than having Optimus in stasis when that was Megs doing.

Technically speaking, he's not really dead. Since he can exist across multiple dimensions at the same time, he's still alive. Unicron and Primus are capable of the same thing.

This too. While I don't consider RotF's final battle to be a bad one, it'd be awesome if in the next film series Unicron ressurects the Fallen into a new body without the age and decay that weakened him in the first series.

This is why I could almost see the series go into 5 movies. Do similar to X-men perhaps and do one with unicron, and the last one, perhaps do almost a "prequil" begining up to the landing on earth and discovering megs.

I'd like to see the Fallen, Jazz, and the constructicons though again.

Why the hell are you all going on about the lousy movie characters......forget them. The greeatest injustice ever done in the whol TF universe is when Hasbro thought the best way to introduce new characters was the wholesale slaughter of the original Transformers via Transformers the Movie. The real movie........
Especially Prowl....his melting from the inside death was horrible and gave me nightmares. His face.....ugh........
As far as the Bayformers go, I welcome the wholesale slaughter of each and every one of them. Thankfully, after this piece of slag comes out in July, we will finally be free of Michael Bay's cancerous presence in the mythos of the Transformers.

Lighten up. The REAL movie, come on.

Back on topic. Frenzy died a good death. Makes me want to see his identical brother, Rumble. You know, the blue-eyed one.

The ORIGINAL movie was and still is a thousand times better than the live action crap. Michael Bay is a horrible director and his solution to everything is throwing money at it. To hell with plot or character development, just blow massive amounts of **** up for two thirds of the movie. Then, to fill 10% of the overall time, show stuff in slow motion....especially helicopters and sunsets...Show Megan fox's chest for the rest...... collect check.......repeat three times to create trilogy...etc
Its lame and fancy graphics will never trump a good story and acting.

Story ain't ****! If you want a story, go read a book! Michael Bay is an awesome director! Transformers is supposed to be about robots blowing stuff up anyway. I see a movie FOR the graphics. Why the hell else would I WATCH a movie? To hear a good story? BS. Go read the movie novels and maybe you'll get your excitement from those.

If you want a story, you can take yo' ass to the book store!

Indeed. I never took movies for anything more than entertainment. I love a good book, but reading about exploding robots is, well...

RhA wrote:Indeed. I never took movies for anything more than entertainment. I love a good book, but reading about exploding robots is, well...

Well, I can tell you two are a couple of Bayjumpers. And that you have the attention span of a fruit fly. The light at the end of this tunnel is that after this summer we will NEVER see the names Michael Bay and Transformers associated again. So you two can get wet with your Bay slomos all you want, but the ride just about over.

gambit020480 wrote:

RhA wrote:Indeed. I never took movies for anything more than entertainment. I love a good book, but reading about exploding robots is, well...

Well, I can tell you two are a couple of Bayjumpers. And that you have the attention span of a fruit fly. The light at the end of this tunnel is that after this summer we will NEVER see the names Michael Bay and Transformers associated again. So you two can get wet with your Bay slomos all you want, but the ride just about over.

omg, gambit, look, your opinion isn't the only one that matters. You hate the Bayverse line, but some people like it. You don't have to flame those people because you disagree.

gambit020480 wrote:

RhA wrote:Indeed. I never took movies for anything more than entertainment. I love a good book, but reading about exploding robots is, well...

Well, I can tell you two are a couple of Bayjumpers. And that you have the attention span of a fruit fly. The light at the end of this tunnel is that after this summer we will NEVER see the names Michael Bay and Transformers associated again. So you two can get wet with your Bay slomos all you want, but the ride just about over.

You keep believing that. But someone who suits your opinion less than Bay will step up and make the next TF movie and "rape" your childhood even harder! And I will sit back and laugh at your pain, agony, and suffering.

I still think it's hilarious the '86 movie is held in such high regard compared to the new movies. The whole thing was pretty half-assed, plagued with animation and story errors, and only existed so Hasbro could kill off all the the characters you came to love just so they could replace them with newer, lesser characters. If it weren't for nostalgia, the '86 movie would be the Phantom Menace of Transformers.

gambit020480 wrote:

RhA wrote:Indeed. I never took movies for anything more than entertainment. I love a good book, but reading about exploding robots is, well...

Well, I can tell you two are a couple of Bayjumpers. And that you have the attention span of a fruit fly. The light at the end of this tunnel is that after this summer we will NEVER see the names Michael Bay and Transformers associated again. So you two can get wet with your Bay slomos all you want, but the ride just about over.

Comfirmed for troll.

Shadowman wrote:I still think it's hilarious the '86 movie is held in such high regard compared to the new movies. The whole thing was pretty half-assed, plagued with animation and story errors, and only existed so Hasbro could kill off all the the characters you came to love just so they could replace them with newer, lesser characters. If it weren't for nostalgia, the '86 movie would be the Phantom Menace of Transformers.

Pretty much this. Even as a kid I only liked the first half of the film because it gave me what I always wanted to see: the final battle between Optimus and Megatron. The second half was such a clusterfrak it took me at least a decade before I could care enough to pay attention to it.