The Energon Pub

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I have wanted a Classics/Generations, fully combining G1 Devastator for a lllllooooooonnnnnggggg time now, and to now see that that dream of mine is finally coming true is pretty awesome! Then add the fact that the ENTIRE Combiner Wars toyline is something that I have wanted Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy to do for a VERY long time. So many dreams of Transformers toys that I have always wanted to be made are coming true. This just makes me so happy! Now, where is Combiner Wars Predaking, Ambominus, Bruticus, Computron, Monstructor, and Piranacon Hasbro!

In due time, and we have reason to believe that Computron and Bruticus are in the works. With the Fan-Built Combiner Victorion that makes 3 out of a possible 4 (if all combiners are spread evenly across 2 years) already.

[Tsutsukakushi]

I have wanted a Classics/Generations, fully combining G1 Devastator for a lllllooooooonnnnnggggg time now, and to now see that that dream of mine is finally coming true is pretty awesome! Then add the fact that the ENTIRE Combiner Wars toyline is something that I have wanted Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy to do for a VERY long time. So many dreams of Transformers toys that I have always wanted to be made are coming true. This just makes me so happy! Now, where is Combiner Wars Predaking, Ambominus, Bruticus, Computron, Monstructor, and Piranacon Hasbro!

In due time, and we have reason to believe that Computron and Bruticus are in the works. With the Fan-Built Combiner Victorion that makes 3 out of a possible 4 (if all combiners are spread evenly across 2 years) already.

Speculating CW Bruticus and CW Computron are Christmas season September October 2015 release toys.

Guessing 2015 will see HasTak release most of the G1 Beast bots. Abonimus, Predaking, Seacons and Monstructor. With possible autobots and Maximals recolors since all of these are Decepticons combiners.

[DoctorOblivian]

I have wanted a Classics/Generations, fully combining G1 Devastator for a lllllooooooonnnnnggggg time now, and to now see that that dream of mine is finally coming true is pretty awesome! Then add the fact that the ENTIRE Combiner Wars toyline is something that I have wanted Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy to do for a VERY long time. So many dreams of Transformers toys that I have always wanted to be made are coming true. This just makes me so happy! Now, where is Combiner Wars Predaking, Ambominus, Bruticus, Computron, Monstructor, and Piranacon Hasbro!

In due time, and we have reason to believe that Computron and Bruticus are in the works. With the Fan-Built Combiner Victorion that makes 3 out of a possible 4 (if all combiners are spread evenly across 2 years) already.

Speculating CW Bruticus and CW Computron are Christmas season September October 2015 release toys.

Guessing 2015 will see HasTak release most of the G1 Beast bots. Abonimus, Predaking, Seacons and Monstructor. With possible autobots and Maximals recolors since all of these are Decepticons combiners.

I think it would be safe to say that Abominus seems likely considering that Computron himself seems to be a sure thing. That would give all the main combiners in the line proper rival teams. Menasor/Superion, Bruticus/Defensor, Computron/Abominus, Victorion/Galvatronus.

Predaking is a possibility as well but that might be pushing it as both Abominus and Predaking would NEED new torso molds on would only share perhaps 1 or 2 molds between them. Anything more than those two would most likely be repaints of existing "non combiner" characters from the Abominus and Predaking molds. (though if we DO get a Predaking then what would be the chances of getting a leader class Skylynx as a rival at some point, I'm drooling just thinking about it)

Piranacon and Monstructor would be REALLY pushing it. Piranacon would require all new molds that don't really have much repaint potential and couldn't be remolded from something else (barring black magic and blood sacrifices) and Monstructor isn't a scramble type combiner. (though neither is Predaking, but hes nearly there so they will probably just make him one anyway if they do.)

Also we all know that hasbro loves to their Autobots, so any more than 2 decepticon teams would be asking for a miracle as so far we have only one real con combiner, Menasor, against Superion, Defensor, and Victorion (and the eventual white Optimus masqurade team) Bruticus is on the way, but so too possibly is Computron.

[Tsutsukakushi]

I have wanted a Classics/Generations, fully combining G1 Devastator for a lllllooooooonnnnnggggg time now, and to now see that that dream of mine is finally coming true is pretty awesome! Then add the fact that the ENTIRE Combiner Wars toyline is something that I have wanted Hasbro and/or TakaraTomy to do for a VERY long time. So many dreams of Transformers toys that I have always wanted to be made are coming true. This just makes me so happy! Now, where is Combiner Wars Predaking, Ambominus, Bruticus, Computron, Monstructor, and Piranacon Hasbro!

In due time, and we have reason to believe that Computron and Bruticus are in the works. With the Fan-Built Combiner Victorion that makes 3 out of a possible 4 (if all combiners are spread evenly across 2 years) already.

Speculating CW Bruticus and CW Computron are Christmas season September October 2015 release toys.

Guessing 2015 will see HasTak release most of the G1 Beast bots. Abonimus, Predaking, Seacons and Monstructor. With possible autobots and Maximals recolors since all of these are Decepticons combiners.

I think it would be safe to say that Abominus seems likely considering that Computron himself seems to be a sure thing. That would give all the main combiners in the line proper rival teams. Menasor/Superion, Bruticus/Defensor, Computron/Abominus, Victorion/Galvatronus.

Predaking is a possibility as well but that might be pushing it as both Abominus and Predaking would NEED new torso molds on would only share perhaps 1 or 2 molds between them. Anything more than those two would most likely be repaints of existing "non combiner" characters from the Abominus and Predaking molds. (though if we DO get a Predaking then what would be the chances of getting a leader class Skylynx as a rival at some point, I'm drooling just thinking about it)

Piranacon and Monstructor would be REALLY pushing it. Piranacon would require all new molds that don't really have much repaint potential and couldn't be remolded from something else (barring black magic and blood sacrifices) and Monstructor isn't a scramble type combiner. (though neither is Predaking, but hes nearly there so they will probably just make him one anyway if they do.)

Also we all know that hasbro loves to their Autobots, so any more than 2 decepticon teams would be asking for a miracle as so far we have only one real con combiner, Menasor, against Superion, Defensor, and Victorion (and the eventual white Optimus masqurade team) Bruticus is on the way, but so too possibly is Computron.

Thought Galvatronus was created to fight that Fakesaur CW Optimus combiner.

Speculating that Habro might treat the CW line like the Kreon combiner line. Where all of the G1 combiners get made into toys.

Like others here have speculated. Don't think it should be too hard for the beast bots combiners to get repurposed between the beast bots teams.

[Burn]

Speculating that next years "Titan" will be Predaking.
(wow it feels weird to talk like that)

[chuckdawg1999]

Speculating that next years "Titan" will be Predaking.
(wow it feels weird to talk like that)

Ya know I was thinking the same thing since Predaking was the largest of the original combiners. I was also thinking Devastator somehow would be heavily retooled, with black magic, into Raiden since that's the other 6-biner from back in the day (With respect to Monstructor).

[Ginrai Minor]

Speculating that next years "Titan" will be Predaking.
(wow it feels weird to talk like that)

I hope you're right...that would be totally "station"

[Tsutsukakushi]

Speculating that next years "Titan" will be Predaking.
(wow it feels weird to talk like that)

Ya know I was thinking the same thing since Predaking was the largest of the original combiners. I was also thinking Devastator somehow would be heavily retooled, with black magic, into Raiden since that's the other 6-biner from back in the day (With respect to Monstructor).

While i'd like to see a Titan Predaking. Don't want to see the individual Titan Predacons to be overly simplified in sculpt and articulation like the Titan Constructicons.

If HasTak can create individual Titan Predacons. that have MP Level Articulation and MP sculpt. Then think this would be a great idea.

Would like the CW Predacons, to be One Voyager and Four deluxes. As I noticed the other CW Combiners from waves One to Three. Have individual team members with more articulation and higher sculpt. Compared to the Titan Constructicons team members.

[Burn]

People harp and moan about the "lack of articulation" on the individual Constructicons ... ummm McFly ... they have MORE articulation than their original G1 incarnations.

[Tsutsukakushi]

People harp and moan about the "lack of articulation" on the individual Constructicons ... ummm McFly ... they have MORE articulation than their original G1 incarnations.

Don't think it's just lack of articulation that's the main problem. Think it's also the low sculpt and primitive joint tech on the Titan Constructicons team members. Latest example, just think of the, Cyber series Seven inch toys.

[william-james88]

Predaking is a possibility as well but that might be pushing it as both Abominus and Predaking would NEED new torso molds on would only share perhaps 1 or 2 molds between them.

No, Predaking would not fit in here. Hasbro and Takara have been very clear about how they are going about these combiners, they are keeping the same amount of members. Devastator was six and thus is not scramble city and doesnt confine to possible mold sharing like Defensor, Superion and Menasor do. So that would also be the case for Predaking, who is also six members. And same for Raiden or Liokaiser although I highly doubt we will be getting those.

[shajaki]

So that would also be the case for Predaking, who is also six members.

*coughcough*

[william-james88]

So that would also be the case for Predaking, who is also six members.

*coughcough*

Oh dammit, got confused. Not six members, but NOT scramble city either. I was half right

Dammit, I even own the guy...

[shajaki]

Dammit, I even own the guy...

s'ok bud

[Burn]

pfffft. News crew. So damn useless.

[william-james88]

I don't think I will ever hear the end of that one.

[megatronus]

People harp and moan about the "lack of articulation" on the individual Constructicons ... ummm McFly ... they have MORE articulation than their original G1 incarnations.

Way to set the bar low...

That complaint is made in the context of modern Generations figures, not G1.

[Tsutsukakushi]

Predaking is a possibility as well but that might be pushing it as both Abominus and Predaking would NEED new torso molds on would only share perhaps 1 or 2 molds between them.

No, Predaking would not fit in here. Hasbro and Takara have been very clear about how they are going about these combiners, they are keeping the same amount of members. Devastator was six and thus is not scramble city and doesnt confine to possible mold sharing like Defensor, Superion and Menasor do. So that would also be the case for Predaking, who is also six members. And same for Raiden or Liokaiser although I highly doubt we will be getting those.

Many fans, Including myself. Are speculating that the CW Beast bots combiners can repurpose team members between themselves.

hey HasTak, we need Predacons/Seacons/Terrorcons! I'll even give the ideas:
Divebomb-Cutthroat, even Seawing if they get creative
Overbite-Rippersnapper, Skalor
Headstrong-Tantrum
Rampage-Ravage?Cheetor should we get Rhinox from Headstrong?
Blot-Tentakill?Skalor?
And this one woulld take MASSIVE retooling, but Razorclaw could become Snaptrap, both are four legged beasts with twin cannons on their backs, and both end up with the animal head as a chest.
Sinnertwin could become a Monsterbot, like many have customized the TFP legion one as, Blot as well.
Also, while Hun-Grr would need a new mould, he could be retooled into RiD Megatron...And bam! A reason for the Hotspot redeco everyone wants!
Nautilator can be a legends gun

Thinking 2016 will have HasTak do most of the G1 Beast bots combiners for CW

[Tsutsukakushi]

People harp and moan about the "lack of articulation" on the individual Constructicons ... ummm McFly ... they have MORE articulation than their original G1 incarnations.

Way to set the bar low...

That complaint is made in the context of modern Generations figures, not G1.

Think it's also made in the context of CW Individual team members. As most fans noticed the Individual CW tream members have more Articulation and better joints tech. Compared to the Titan Constructicons individual team members.

[Burn]

People harp and moan about the "lack of articulation" on the individual Constructicons ... ummm McFly ... they have MORE articulation than their original G1 incarnations.

Way to set the bar low...

That complaint is made in the context of modern Generations figures, not G1.

It's also a complaint based on pictures and not on in-hand reviews.

And it's not me setting the bar too low, it's bar being set ridiculously high by fans who think they know what it takes to design, manufacture, and market a figure like this.

[megatronus]

People harp and moan about the "lack of articulation" on the individual Constructicons ... ummm McFly ... they have MORE articulation than their original G1 incarnations.

Way to set the bar low...

That complaint is made in the context of modern Generations figures, not G1.

It's also a complaint based on pictures and not on in-hand reviews.

And it's not me setting the bar too low, it's bar being set ridiculously high by fans who think they know what it takes to design, manufacture, and market a figure like this.

If you're saying all these figures have to do articulation-wise is be better than G1, than yes, you're setting the bar too low.

I generally agree that it's too early to form cohesive opinions on the set barring in-hand evaluations. But you're taking that general sentiment to an extreme. Is it truly not valid to note the lack of arm articulation, which has been clear and apparent in all the pictures and materials distributed thus far? C'mon.

[Burn]

If you're saying all these figures have to do articulation-wise is be better than G1, than yes, you're setting the bar too low.

Not saying that at all. That's just your interpretation. Maybe I'm a simple minded individual, someone not capable of truly appreciating engineering greatness and as such appreciate simple figures like this.

Or you know, whatever.

I generally agree that it's too early to form cohesive opinions on the set barring in-hand evaluations. But you're taking that general sentiment to an extreme. Is it truly not valid to note the lack of arm articulation, which has been clear and apparent in all the pictures and materials distributed thus far? C'mon.

I look at the pictures and I see TWO figures with bad arm articulation.

Scrapper - To me this makes sense. His arms form the heel. They're a support beam, they need to be rigid. I firmly believe that at some stage during development they tried out elbows but found the weight of all those other bots made said elbows not strong enough to support the combined mode. Hence the rigid arms. If people are going to moan about that ... come on ... think about it.

Long Haul - I'll concede, no idea what's going on there, but I can only imagine like Scrapper, it's an intentional design purpose. You just can't really tell in combined mode.

The others look bloody well articulated TO ME. (And people can post all sorts of arguments you want but my opinion won't be shifting on that one)

[Arctorro]

I don't think I will ever hear the end of that one.

No, no you won't. Check out my sig

[Burn]

I don't think I will ever hear the end of that one.

No, no you won't. Check out my sig

Don't mess with Australians Billy-Jim!

[megatronus]

If you're saying all these figures have to do articulation-wise is be better than G1, than yes, you're setting the bar too low.

Not saying that at all. That's just your interpretation. Maybe I'm a simple minded individual, someone not capable of truly appreciating engineering greatness and as such appreciate simple figures like this.

Or you know, whatever.

You're free to be sarcastic and snide, or you know, whatever, but my 'interpretation' is based on:

People harp and moan about the "lack of articulation" on the individual Constructicons ... ummm McFly ... they have MORE articulation than their original G1 incarnations.

Besides for just having a "pffffff" response, I'd be curious to know how my 'interpretation' is wrong.

I generally agree that it's too early to form cohesive opinions on the set barring in-hand evaluations. But you're taking that general sentiment to an extreme. Is it truly not valid to note the lack of arm articulation, which has been clear and apparent in all the pictures and materials distributed thus far? C'mon.

I look at the pictures and I see TWO figures with bad arm articulation.

Scrapper - To me this makes sense. His arms form the heel. They're a support beam, they need to be rigid. I firmly believe that at some stage during development they tried out elbows but found the weight of all those other bots made said elbows not strong enough to support the combined mode. Hence the rigid arms. If people are going to moan about that ... come on ... think about it.

Long Haul - I'll concede, no idea what's going on there, but I can only imagine like Scrapper, it's an intentional design purpose. You just can't really tell in combined mode.

The others look bloody well articulated TO ME. (And people can post all sorts of arguments you want but my opinion won't be shifting on that one)

To be clear, I'm not trying to change your opinions any. If they look good to you, great! I'm glad. Seriously. They look pretty awesome to me, too, and I look forward to getting them. But to me, the arm articulation for the Constructicons, who for all intents and purposes are ultra-sized, could be better.

Whether or not there's an engineering purpose will come out. But even so, that doesn't take away from the appearance of sub-par arm articulation - due to ball joints, Bonecrusher and Scavenger seem to be the only Constructicons with a wide range of arm motion.

We'll know soon enough.