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Saw a news report today about a drug bust that netted Transformers Ecstasy. The picture I found has a shot of the Autobot one, but the news report also showed a D-Con one. Is there nothing these sleezeballs won't do to push their drugs. Anyway, thought I would share: http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1252041.html

Any TF Merchandise completists out there?

haha thats funny nice find

That's sick.

Interesting though.

Ehhhh, I see nothing wrong.
But then again, I'm all for decriminalizing drugs.

Transformers ecstasy. Wow. That's almost enough to make me try it. Almost.

Ugh. That is ridiculous. If you want to do drugs, that is up to you. What bothers me is that some kid is going to come across these and take them thinking they are candy. Sad.

Rather expensive candy for a kid to be buying, don't you think? I agree that kids might think of them as candy and take them, if they randomly found some, but I would imagine most drug dealers aren't going to just give them away. Drugs usually cost money, and tabs aren't cheap. Pending location, they'd probably be looking for 10-20 dollars per pill. That's a bit out of most kids' price range for a single piece of candy.

Scatterlung wrote:Any TF Merchandise completists out there?

I MUST HAVE THEM!!

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Ehhhh, I see nothing wrong.
But then again, I'm all for decriminalizing drugs.

There's so much wrong with this post it baffles me. I... nah, not worth getting banned over.

SJ21 wrote:Ugh. That is ridiculous. If you want to do drugs, that is up to you. What bothers me is that some kid is going to come across these and take them thinking they are candy. Sad.

Exactly. In fact, I'd imagine that's exactly what they're aiming for. "It's not personal, it's just business" is their mentality, too bad there's too many people suffering because of it.

We have warnings about going to Mexico. Why? Drug war.

Still want to decriminalize drugs, Primacron? (never mind. That's a really silly question to ask.)

I thought the star was one of those tabloid mags?

Here a news viedeo of the pills on youtube: Some of the pills are called Nemesis and Frenzy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLewMq1ZhPg

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Autobot032 wrote:Exactly. In fact, I'd imagine that's exactly what they're aiming for. "It's not personal, it's just business" is their mentality, too bad there's too many people suffering because of it.

To a point I agree but I'd be willing to bet the primary focus of designing drugs that look like childrens candy is to disguise them from looking like drugs...

I mean I'm not supporting the drug trade and I know that drugs get aimed at young people, but I seriously doubt anyone is like "I'm gonna make drugs that look like candy so that some little kid will accidentally eat it and get addicted BWAHAHAHA!!!"

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:Ehhhh, I see nothing wrong.
But then again, I'm all for decriminalizing drugs.

I sure as heck am not!!
Especially after all the things I've seen.

I was watching World's Wildest Police Videos on TRU TV the other day and OMG!!

You guys know what a bait car is right? Well all of them are equipped with hidden video cameras on the inside.
Well they had this one video of this guy stealing the bait car...
Oh.. my... GOD!!
He must have been totally blitzed out on meth or SOMETHING!!

He's just screaming and yelling like a total psychopath!! Like gripping the steering wheel and shivering and twitching, all the while going...

"YEEEEEEEEEAAHHHH!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEAAHHH!!! AAAAAAAAAAHHH!! GET OUTTA THE WAY MUTHER #@$%!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIAAAA!!!!"
And he's just honking the horn and flipping random motorists the bird as if he was a living portal to hell.

I swear!! All I could do was just stare and gape in disbelief. Good Lord!!
And to all of those who think that is funny, grow up!! It is not funny. I don't want these kind of people using substances like this and then going out in public to do heaven only know's what and it not be considered illegal.

Thank God they caught that particular nut case.

Savage wrote:Rather expensive candy for a kid to be buying, don't you think? I agree that kids might think of them as candy and take them, if they randomly found some, but I would imagine most drug dealers aren't going to just give them away. Drugs usually cost money, and tabs aren't cheap. Pending location, they'd probably be looking for 10-20 dollars per pill. That's a bit out of most kids' price range for a single piece of candy.

they can go for as low as $1-$3 if yoou know a supplier/manufacturer

Name_Violation wrote:

Savage wrote:Rather expensive candy for a kid to be buying, don't you think? I agree that kids might think of them as candy and take them, if they randomly found some, but I would imagine most drug dealers aren't going to just give them away. Drugs usually cost money, and tabs aren't cheap. Pending location, they'd probably be looking for 10-20 dollars per pill. That's a bit out of most kids' price range for a single piece of candy.

they can go for as low as $1-$3 if yoou know a supplier/manufacturer

Yeah, it isn't too hard to get stuff like this...

Especially if you consider the things said by other teens in my school.

Of course most of it could be just talk, but I wouldn't put it past a lot of them for it to be true.

Drugs are bad ok.

At risk of being unpopular, I'm fal decriminalizing drugs because as it is now, the so-called war on drugs will never end. They want these drugs, and them being forbiddon, makes a few drug lords rich, powerful men who make the drugs more dangerous by making them more addictive and expensive. Decriminalize drugs and the drug lords lose both their money and power. The so-called war on drugs, to me, is just a way for certain police and politicans to keep their jobs.
And it's funny cause some people want drugs to be totally forbiddon, but the tobacco and liquer makers are just fine, despite the chemicals and additives they put in to make them addictive.....hell, food makers are allowed to put aspartame and floride in foods and some water, and that stuffs more poisonous then anything, and aspartame in particular is addictive and cause neurological damage, I'd rather see that banned.

Anyhow I want to see drugs decriminlized....I did not say legalized...just decriminalized. If legalized, it' gonna be regulated to death, be watered down so no one wants it, making you need to be 21 to use it, tax it to death. I say if someone wants to grow some weed or make their own drugs in the privacy of their own homes, let them. And the prisons are full of non-violent offenders, just stonners and or someone selling drugs to his buddies.....and over crowding the prisons....I'd rather see the police go after and send to prison REAL criminals....the killers, the rapists, the coporate guys who steal and cheat people outta millions of dollars.....those types need to be in jail.....not someone who had some dope in his pocket.

And to those who still think the war on drugs will work.....look at Prohibition in the 1920's.....did not work whatsoever and just made mobsters into powerful men.

And to remain on topic, give a Transformer to a person who's stonned....I've seen it happen once of twice, it's a riot.

Stoned guy: It's a truck, it's a robot....WHAT THE HELL IS IT?!?!?!

Isn't that stoner-Transformer line from an old Robin Williams stand-up video?

Personally, I think drug dealers are the lowest forms of life.

The only reason for legalising drugs is so the misguided individuals who want them don't have to deal with and bring scum bags into their lives.

If it were up to me, cigarettes and alcohol would be banned as well. As Soundwave said in an old Marvel UK comic: "Poisons and premature death hold no interest to me." In another comic, he states that Mixmaster is dealing the FORBIDDEN circuit booster Syck.

Even the evil Decepticons realise the folly in addictions.

I've never touched any of them and have a great life.

If I come across as preachy, I apologise. But every addict has someone who cares about them and it's absolute HELL to see someone you care about do this to themselves.

Elita One wrote:Drugs are bad ok.

'Nuf said.

Penn & Teller did a pretty good episode of Bullsh*t on the topic of the drug war. First or second season, I think. Netflix if you can, it's an enlightening series (take with salt, however.)

As for the particular shape of these things, it was bound to happen. I'm just curious at the motives. Was it a selling point, or an attempt to diguise the dose. Naw, officer, I don't have anything but this candy, re:skittles. Actually, looking at the pics, they look more like Flintstones vitamins.

Frankly, I feel that once you're a certain age, if you want to destroy your body and mind, that's really your decision, isn't it? We let people wreck themselves with alcohol, and so long as they're not driving, we don't much care.

However: all drugs are NOT created equal, and bad X is one of the worst. I've lost two good college friends to it. No, they're still alive, but they're institutionalized. One doesn't even remember his own name. Most of the 'legalize drugs' crowd is really thinking of marijuana, not meth or X or PCP. And before you say, yeah, but that was *bad* X and if it were regulated it would all be like safe and quality...I snort in your general direction. Do you really trust the FDA? Do you remember no one daring to eat a tomato last summer? How 'bout the fact no one trusts peanut butter anymore? Lead in all those kids' toys? Do you REALLY mean to tell me that you trust your government to regulate psychotropic chemicals when they can't even make peanut butter safe for all?!?

Now, the 'legalize' crowd again has some theory that if drugs are regulated, we won't have 'drug related crime'--no one's gonna bust into my house to try to steal my TV to pay for his next hit.
Yeah? Prove it. Prove to me Joe Crackhead ain't gonna bust into my house and swipe my Emerson to take to a pawnshop, get his cash, and then go to Drugs R Us with that cash? So, that argument doesn't hold much weight.

HK, who sleeps with a loaded shotgun under the bed, because Joe Crackhead's paid a few too many visits to her in the past. Joe ain't afraid of the po-po, but he still respects mah boomstick.

hellkitty wrote:Frankly, I feel that once you're a certain age, if you want to destroy your body and mind, that's really your decision, isn't it? We let people wreck themselves with alcohol, and so long as they're not driving, we don't much care.

However: all drugs are NOT created equal, and bad X is one of the worst. I've lost two good college friends to it. No, they're still alive, but they're institutionalized. One doesn't even remember his own name. Most of the 'legalize drugs' crowd is really thinking of marijuana, not meth or X or PCP. And before you say, yeah, but that was *bad* X and if it were regulated it would all be like safe and quality...I snort in your general direction. Do you really trust the FDA? Do you remember no one daring to eat a tomato last summer? How 'bout the fact no one trusts peanut butter anymore? Lead in all those kids' toys? Do you REALLY mean to tell me that you trust your government to regulate psychotropic chemicals when they can't even make peanut butter safe for all?!?

Now, the 'legalize' crowd again has some theory that if drugs are regulated, we won't have 'drug related crime'--no one's gonna bust into my house to try to steal my TV to pay for his next hit.
Yeah? Prove it. Prove to me Joe Crackhead ain't gonna bust into my house and swipe my Emerson to take to a pawnshop, get his cash, and then go to Drugs R Us with that cash? So, that argument doesn't hold much weight.

HK, who sleeps with a loaded shotgun under the bed, because Joe Crackhead's paid a few too many visits to her in the past. Joe ain't afraid of the po-po, but he still respects mah boomstick.

I agree with you that an adults should be able to make decisions, even harmful ones, that only affect their own bodies and lives. Drugs, in my mind, should be addressed as a public health issue.

Now, in the case of someone damaged or killed by a bad "hit"... the seller/maker should at least be up on manslaughter or attempted murder charges. Isn't that what you would do to someone that put clorox in the sugarbowl? (I think the peanut folks should be up on similar charges.)

Adults without severe developmental disabilities are responsible for their own actions. Whether they are inebriated or sober, whether they remember doing it or not, they are still the same person. They are not "possessed" by a "demon." Their inhibitions might be lowered, their thought process might be muddled, but it is still the same person. The only exception I see to this would apply to a person who was not aware of their own inebriation.

Part of adulthood is the knowledge that when one is under the influence, one is stupider than normal. Now, the compounding affects of this stupidity might be regrettable, but if we're going to have drugs in our culture at all, we should also be responsible for our actions on them or craving them.

Drugs do not make people do things. People make themselves or allow themselves to do things.

Personally, I do not use drugs for recreation. I have an occasional drink if it is really good or to taste, not as an alcohol-delivery-system. I do imbibe fair amounts of caffeine in sodas and teas. I use ibuprofen for headaches, claritin for allergies, and immodium for stomach problems. I recognize my immersion in our drug culture.

Perhaps outright prohibition would be best, if possible. Unfortunately, the underworld economy it creates causes more problems than the drugs themselves would, generally. Regulate mild drugs in the same way drugs, alcohol, and medicines are. Allow a certain amount of home-grown just like limitations on home-brew. Require licenses for sale. Etc.

Lorekeeper wrote:Adults without severe developmental disabilities are responsible for their own actions. Whether they are inebriated or sober, whether they remember doing it or not, they are still the same person. They are not "possessed" by a "demon." Their inhibitions might be lowered, their thought process might be muddled, but it is still the same person. The only exception I see to this would apply to a person who was not aware of their own inebriation.

Part of adulthood is the knowledge that when one is under the influence, one is stupider than normal. Now, the compounding affects of this stupidity might be regrettable, but if we're going to have drugs in our culture at all, we should also be responsible for our actions on them or craving them.

Drugs do not make people do things. People make themselves or allow themselves to do things.

I have to say that I ardently disagree.

Mind-altering drugs by definition alter the mind, the central component to our identity.

You presume that 'awareness' of the influence should be protective, and keep you in control, yet acknowledge the fact that inhibitions and thinking processes are "muddled". Awareness is contingent on those thinking processes, the more muddled they become, the less aware a person is. While this might not be a problem for a heavier person drinking low proof alcoholic beverages, who has plenty of 'time' to say enough-is-enough, that scenario isn't really generalizable to every facet of the "drug problem" as you seem to suggest.

It would be comforting to think that there was some higher executive mini-me inside my head that still had ultimate control over all of my functions, that made the final decision on everything regardless of situational factors, but fuzzy positive-psychology like that has less to do with what is true and more to do with what we wish was true, and that's bad science. Research has repeatedly illustrated how easily people's thoughts and actions are influenced, by factors far less invasive than brain-chemistry manipulation.

But enough of my B=f(P,E), where E>P, soapbox moment. My point is that we can't base major societal policy on the premise that human beings will act rationally and responsibly while under chemical influence or while suffering from chemical addiction.

If that were true, the old line some of us have heard "I could quit anytime I want to" wouldn't be so sad.

hellkitty wrote:Frankly, I feel that once you're a certain age, if you want to destroy your body and mind, that's really your decision, isn't it?

True.
I've always heard "everyone has the right the be an idiot".

I don't like it, but it's true.

But when people start taking substances that alter their attitudes, actions, and thoughts and they become a danger to themselves and every human being it range (which could be you or someone you care about), then we have a SERIOUS problem.

hellkitty wrote:but he still respects mah boomstick.

Best. Quote. EVER. XD