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Saber Prime wrote:Lost count.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:All jokes are not funny when you think about it.....how many bad jokes have you heard in your life![]()
Jokes aren't allways funny to EVERYBODY but they should be funny to SOMEBODY. The Dick Greayson calling himself Nightwing in Batman Forever was funny to me. I laughed when he said that line.
However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes. He only really used that Nightwing looking costume for the last sceen in the movie but he had it. It wasn't funny or a joke, jost a homage to his other identity.
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craggy wrote:wow, de-rail-o-rama.
First off, Saber Prime, I don't want to sound offensive, but please don't talk about things you blatantly don't know much about. You're not totally wrong about all the Green Lantern trivia you've posted, but are quite obviously behind the times with things, and perhaps not always remembering things right as well. I'm not exactly Geoff Johns myself, but here's a quick run-down of the Green Lanterns and their relationship to humans:
The first Green Lantern in comics was Alan Scott, who got his lantern and ring from a crashed train. They'd been carved from a meteor, which was later revealed (retconned) to have been a part of the Starheart. This was what the Guardians had used to store all the rogue magic in the universe into, and the basis for the Central Battery on OA. There were Green Lanterns already out there in space, but again, none of this was known (i.e. hadn't been made up by a writer) at the time of the Alan Scott stories.
When DC decided to revamp the Green Lantern character as they had done the Flash, they made this GL Hal Jordan, a test pilot who got his ring and lantern from dying alien GL Abin Sur. Sur was a member of the intergalactic Green Lantern Corps and their rings, unlike Alan Scott's were powerless against the colour yellow. (First wood, then yellow-GLs have pretty crappy weaknesses, eh?) Hal was GL for quite a while, and, being somewhat lower down the popularity ladder than the likes of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, was experimented with by writers a lot more over the years. Guy Gardner was introduced as a back-up GL, but was involved in an accident that left him comatose for years, and John Stewart was introduced to replace him. John actually got to use the ring and eventually went off into space and married another (alien) GL. Guy became GL at some point as well, I think around Crisis on Infinite Earths, and was a member of the Justice League for some time during the 80s and early 90s.
When DC killed Superman they had a bad guy destroy Hal's home town, and this, along with a few other things kinda drove him crazy. He became Parallax and wiped out the Corps, the Guardians and nearly the entire universe. Meanwhile, John joined the Darkstars (wannabe GLs) and Guy had started using Sinestro's yellow power ring, under the new, catchy superhero code-name of Guy Gardner.
Along came Kyle, and for a long time he was the only GL in mainstream DC continuity. He was in the reformed JLA and shown to be pretty much at least as good as Hal. In fact, somehow, a universe that had once needed 3600 Lanterns managed to survive pretty well with just one.
When Warner was making their Justice League animated series someone (I don't know who) decided to use John Stewart, and he worked out pretty well, probably becoming the GL that the mainsteam non-comics reading man on the street knows about.
GL:Rebirth brought an end to Kyle's run as the last Green Lantern, and revived Hal and the Corps. Everything was back to normal, only now there were twice as many Lanterns across the universe, and the comics got really good. There are currently 4 human Green Lanterns: Hal, Kyle, John and Guy, but Gardner at least is one of the GL Honour Guard, a kind of special missions GL who goes everywhere and does anything, not restricted to a specific sector. They're all presently involved in a big cosmic smackdown, with an equally huge group of evil yellow ring slingers called the Sinestro Corps, led by disgraced former-GL Sinestro and counting 2 alternate evil Supermen amongst their number. I imagine things will change in the aftermath of this storyline too.
However, to bring this all back to the point that sparked this discussion, I actually think Hal isn't a bad choice for a Silverbolt analogue. They both have a certain way with the ladies, sometimes it's not good for them (Blackarachnia/Star Sapphire) and have turned evil at some point.
What I don't get is mentioning Firefly (the Batman villain) but not matching him up with Inferno. They're practically the same character. Crazy, delusional, cackling pyromaniacs.
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Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
craggy wrote:jinkies, thats a lot more depth than i could have gone into about the golden age lantern. knew a bit about the starheart bit and vaguely remember reading the ancient china thing, but didn't recall it until you said there, and i never knew how the lantern got onto the train.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Saber Prime wrote:Lost count.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:All jokes are not funny when you think about it.....how many bad jokes have you heard in your life![]()
Jokes aren't allways funny to EVERYBODY but they should be funny to SOMEBODY. The Dick Greayson calling himself Nightwing in Batman Forever was funny to me. I laughed when he said that line.
However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes. He only really used that Nightwing looking costume for the last sceen in the movie but he had it. It wasn't funny or a joke, jost a homage to his other identity.
Your a little mixed up there.....the Batman movie was called "Batman & Robin" and he used the Nightwing looking costume the entire movie not just at the end of the film.
Here's the trailer see if you reconize the voice of the anouncer
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aKNSstnq4sg
But like I said the joke in Batman Forever wasnt funny to be or to anyone I know who saw the film but thats the point of an "inside joke" only fans with knowledge on the topic of the joke would catch the refrance.
Saber Prime wrote:However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes.
Saber Prime wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Saber Prime wrote:Lost count.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:All jokes are not funny when you think about it.....how many bad jokes have you heard in your life![]()
Jokes aren't allways funny to EVERYBODY but they should be funny to SOMEBODY. The Dick Greayson calling himself Nightwing in Batman Forever was funny to me. I laughed when he said that line.
However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes. He only really used that Nightwing looking costume for the last sceen in the movie but he had it. It wasn't funny or a joke, jost a homage to his other identity.
Your a little mixed up there.....the Batman movie was called "Batman & Robin" and he used the Nightwing looking costume the entire movie not just at the end of the film.
Here's the trailer see if you reconize the voice of the anouncer
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aKNSstnq4sg
But like I said the joke in Batman Forever wasnt funny to be or to anyone I know who saw the film but thats the point of an "inside joke" only fans with knowledge on the topic of the joke would catch the refrance.
Why are you correcting me on the movie title?Saber Prime wrote:However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes.
Obviously I know what the title is, I said it.
Secondly I forgot about the red version. I really hate "Batman and Robin" so haven't watched it any time recently. I was thinking of his other costume that he wears at the end of that movie. They all have Black and Silver costumes by the end of the movie.
I think I was thinking he still had the same costume from the end of Batman Forever at the begining of Batman and Robin. Guess he's actully had 4 costumes in the movies and he's only been in 2 movies.![]()
Batman Forever he started with a modified circus uniform just like the original Robin costume (only with more modern syle tights rather than what Burt Ward had which looked like nothing) Then he had a rubber costume like Batman's by the end of the movie that still had his "R" symbol on it. Then the costume with the red bird symbol in "Batman and Robin" and changed to a Silver bird symbol at the end of the movie.
I just forgot he had the red bird symbol costume.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Saber Prime wrote:It had been established in the past that each Green Lantern has his, her, or its own oath. For example, Medphyl, the Green Lantern of the planet J586 (seen in Swamp Thing # 61, "All Flesh is Grass"), a planet where a sentient plant species lives, has the following oath:
In forest dark or glade beferned
No blade of grass shall go unturned
Let those who have the daylight spurned
Tread not where this green lamp has burned.
This Green Lantern's planet sounds like the Planet Botanica scaned her alt mode from. Anyone know if Medphyl is a girl?
Saber Prime wrote:Saber Prime wrote:It had been established in the past that each Green Lantern has his, her, or its own oath. For example, Medphyl, the Green Lantern of the planet J586 (seen in Swamp Thing # 61, "All Flesh is Grass"), a planet where a sentient plant species lives, has the following oath:
In forest dark or glade beferned
No blade of grass shall go unturned
Let those who have the daylight spurned
Tread not where this green lamp has burned.
This Green Lantern's planet sounds like the Planet Botanica scaned her alt mode from. Anyone know if Medphyl is a girl?
Had to quote myself sence no one ever answered this question. I don't know who to add for Botanica and this Green Lantern would be a great match if it's a female.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
From what I remember of Soloman Grundy he's a bit of an extreamly large and strong child throwing a temper tantrum. (not exactly but that's a fairly close comparison I think)sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well Black Orchid fits Botanica's powers and look but from what I remember of her perspnalty she was a bit of a nut.
Saber Prime wrote:From what I remember of Soloman Grundy he's a bit of an extreamly large and strong child throwing a temper tantrum. (not exactly but that's a fairly close comparison I think)sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well Black Orchid fits Botanica's powers and look but from what I remember of her perspnalty she was a bit of a nut.
Not really honor bound like Dinobot.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
It was because you mentioned Black Orchid's personality didn't really match Batanica's that I quoted that and then brought up Soloman Grundy's personality doesn't match Dinobot's.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Saber Prime wrote:From what I remember of Soloman Grundy he's a bit of an extreamly large and strong child throwing a temper tantrum. (not exactly but that's a fairly close comparison I think)sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well Black Orchid fits Botanica's powers and look but from what I remember of her perspnalty she was a bit of a nut.
Not really honor bound like Dinobot.
You guoted my Black Orchid/Botanica but mention my Soloman Grundy/Dinobot sugestion from a few days backGuess you were to lazy to look up the right post
The only reason I suggested Soloman Grundy for Dinobot was because you were looking for a bad guy gone good that dies and comes back bad and turns good again.Soloman Grundy has done that several times in the past.
Saber Prime wrote:It was because you mentioned Black Orchid's personality didn't really match Batanica's that I quoted that and then brought up Soloman Grundy's personality doesn't match Dinobot's.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Saber Prime wrote:From what I remember of Soloman Grundy he's a bit of an extreamly large and strong child throwing a temper tantrum. (not exactly but that's a fairly close comparison I think)sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well Black Orchid fits Botanica's powers and look but from what I remember of her perspnalty she was a bit of a nut.
Not really honor bound like Dinobot.
You guoted my Black Orchid/Botanica but mention my Soloman Grundy/Dinobot sugestion from a few days backGuess you were to lazy to look up the right post
The only reason I suggested Soloman Grundy for Dinobot was because you were looking for a bad guy gone good that dies and comes back bad and turns good again.Soloman Grundy has done that several times in the past.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
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