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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Ravage XK » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:12 am

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Not blown away by Ultra Magnus, shall wait for better piccys but he does look blocky. Hopefully some detailing on the legs will be added to break up those massive clumps of single colours.

I do like the grey/purple version in the background, even though it is a proto.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Mykltron » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:56 am

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby autobotOG » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:23 am

It looks to me like the angle combined with all the dark shapes in the background could be making him look a little more stalky and fat in the midsection than the prototype pics.....I'm still stoked;)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Optimizzy » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:17 am

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Citizen Stack just looks better to me. I'm not impressed.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Shuttershock » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:16 am

Optimizzy wrote:Citizen Stack just looks better to me. I'm not impressed.



Hard to do better than 3rd party.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Optimizzy » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:20 am

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Shuttershock wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Citizen Stack just looks better to me. I'm not impressed.



Hard to do better than 3rd party.



That should not be a true statement.


But really. Third party toys are expensive because of the overhead and limited production. Yet citizen stack looks better AND nearly matches the cost? Shame on you Takara/Tomy. If third party can do better AND match you in price you are doing it wrong.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby megatronus » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:26 am

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At this juncture, I think my problem with MP-22 is that he's so bulky, it looks like there should be a small white robot in there.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby megatronus » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:27 am

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Optimizzy wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Citizen Stack just looks better to me. I'm not impressed.



Hard to do better than 3rd party.



That should not be a true statement.


But really. Third party toys are expensive because of the overhead and limited production. Yet citizen stack looks better AND nearly matches the cost? Shame on you Takara/Tomy. If third party can do better AND match you in price you are doing it wrong.

Citizen Stack "doing better" is a matter of opinion and conjecture at this point.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby mooncake623 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:33 am

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Optimizzy wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Citizen Stack just looks better to me. I'm not impressed.



Hard to do better than 3rd party.



That should not be a true statement.


But really. Third party toys are expensive because of the overhead and limited production. Yet citizen stack looks better AND nearly matches the cost? Shame on you Takara/Tomy. If third party can do better AND match you in price you are doing it wrong.


Have you seen citizen Stack? its a stack of Sh*t. Check it out some none section reviews where the reviewer isn't getting it for free.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Stormrider » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:46 am

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Why didn't the designers make the white ramps rotate to the knee cap? It looks strange the way it is and seems like such an easy design adjustment.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Optimizzy » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:06 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:
Have you seen citizen Stack? its a stack of Sh*t. Check it out some none section reviews where the reviewer isn't getting it for free.



Well, as no one has reviewed this yet, it's not a fair comparison. My argument of pricing still stands.

How can Takara/tomy continue to price masterpieces the way they do when a smaller company with fewer resources can price it nearly the same?

In the argument I'm making it doesn't matter that Stack is better. It's that it is third-party and comparable in price.




And anyway, the MP-22 looks like a big brick o' sh*t to me. I'm sorry but if official companies really can't improve on cost and design then they should just let third party companies design these things and use their infrastructure to mass-produce them. Then we will get good toys at good prices.
I have been into transformers since 1984.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:44 pm

Looks pretty good to me in this photo:

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And $44 cheaper than the unofficial product. Nice that we have options though.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby DeadCaL » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:08 pm

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Optimizzy » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:30 pm

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Cyberpath wrote:
And $44 cheaper than the unofficial product. Nice that we have options though.



Everything I've seen has it about $180. Is that old data?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:07 pm

Optimizzy wrote:Everything I've seen has it about $180. Is that old data?
Japanese websites sell it for $121-142. Already sold out on Anime-Export and Ami Ami, but still available for pre-order on HLJ.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Janitor » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:40 pm

Shuttershock wrote:That is the most well-articulated brick I've ever seen.


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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Torneira » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:35 pm

Is Magnus' gun staying this color or will the final color be white?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby s1ck3nd » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:20 am

Why does he seem sooooooooo.....awkward?? That stance alone makes U.M look very limited in pose ability. :-?
That right shoulder hinge tho! #-o
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:40 am

Another pic:

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Torneira » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:50 am

=P~ NOW THIS IS MORE LIKE IT! SOLD!
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Torneira » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:52 am

I wonder if he can store his weapon just like MP-10...?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:13 am

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s1ck3nd wrote:Why does he seem sooooooooo.....awkward?? That stance alone makes U.M look very limited in pose ability. :-?
That right shoulder hinge tho! #-o

It's a prototype (likely made of resin), those things always have loose joints and are very fragile. The person who displayed it did the mistake of trying to put it in a dynamic pose, which the prototype can't handle.

Damn, that latest pic =P~
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby mooncake623 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:58 am

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mooncake623 wrote:
Have you seen citizen Stack? its a stack of Sh*t. Check it out some none section reviews where the reviewer isn't getting it for free.



Well, as no one has reviewed this yet, it's not a fair comparison. My argument of pricing still stands.

How can Takara/tomy continue to price masterpieces the way they do when a smaller company with fewer resources can price it nearly the same?

In the argument I'm making it doesn't matter that Stack is better. It's that it is third-party and comparable in price.




And anyway, the MP-22 looks like a big brick o' sh*t to me. I'm sorry but if official companies really can't improve on cost and design then they should just let third party companies design these things and use their infrastructure to mass-produce them. Then we will get good toys at good prices.



Well Citizen Stack has been out and its priced like that cause it's pretty hollow and its joints are wearing down already.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

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