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thank you a for making it watchable for younger children.Steven and MPAA thanks.

What? No full frontal? Well f*** this movie then.

Nice of Speilberg to lay down the law.

You know I never had any serious doubts about the movie until now.

Are they complete idiots? Do they want kids to be able to see the movie at all. Dispite on how awesome some 20 something fans might think it is that things in the movie are so intense that the first cut was rated R, like it or not, the success of this movie will depend largely on kids watching the movie as well, and toy sales that will be generated afterwards.

This is quite possibly the biggest proof that Bay is going in his own direction here, Hasbro would have never had allowed a rated R movie for Transformers, but he's made one. You can say that many PG-13 movie are rated R in the first cut, but there's no way Transformers should have been on the line like this. They literally have to have the robots tear apart humans with their hands, drop the f bomb, or have some girl flashing the camera to do do so. The MPAA wouln't rate a movie R if it just featured robots kicking the crap out of each other.

So unless Shia has no idea about what he's talking about... again, the people responsible for this movie pretty much crossed the line as far as I'm concerned. The simple reason why: If kids aren't allowed to see the movie, it'll flop, big time. Yes, the second cut is PG-13 now, but will we have a directors cut that's rated R now? Stupid.

Philcom wrote:Yes, the second cut is PG-13 now, but will we have a directors cut that's rated R now? Stupid.

That sounds fine with me.

Yup, I'm impressed. I've always dreamed of an R-rated TF movie. Dang, it's gonna be great if we get an R-rated flick in the form of a PG-13 flick.

R Rated Transformers? God knows that'd give some people their wish.

I'm interested in finding out if this was borderline PG-13/R or if they actually had to cut items out. It doesn't mention anything about cutting scenes, it just says that Steven Spielberg changed their minds about it.

If you drop the f bomb like 3 times its an automatic r rating, regardless of violence, nudity or anything, I'm sure there will be blood and some robot dismemberment thrown in there as well.

I'd surely hope it wasn't even close to a "R" rating.
I also hope that there is no F-word type language.

This is TransFormers, not Alien(s), and it shouldn't be.

It's not meant to be graphic, gory, over the top.

It's supposed to be entertaining, and fun. If your idea of those two involves heavy amounts of sex, foul language, and extreme graphic violence, well boo hoo. He's not catering this to you, or anyone else. Deal with it.

"R" rated TFs....come on...get real.

I dont think its that unusual for an action movie to get an r rating upon the first review, they then give it a second screening and re-evaluate, A lot of it probably comes down to the action aspect. Also, Bay said in the beginning that it wont be a kid's toy movie, so it will be very unkidlike in nature.

The movie will be PG-13. They (Your pick: Hasbro, Paramount, Dreamworks, Spielberg, etc) wouldn't let this movie be a rated R movie. It would kill it at the box office (most R movies do not shatter box office records). They need this movie to be a PG-13 flick from a business perspective.

I wanna see the "unrated, unicron edition" on dvd, I heard arcee is on a pin-up poster in the sleeping cabin of optimus' truck mode

1bigray wrote:I wanna see the "unrated, unicron edition" on dvd, I heard arcee is on a pin-up poster in the sleeping cabin of optimus' truck mode

That's scary. I think she's a guy in the prequel.

heh watch the movie "just one of the guys" if he/she looks like that main character and does what she does at the end, i'm down

They had to cut some things to make it PG-13, huh? I hope they dropped the "Megatron"'s vampire act.

i cant wait

What a load of crap.
There is no way that a film tentatively rated "R" would be bumped down to a "PG" because an Executive Producer "put it in context"
If films like Harry Potter couldnt get an "M" rating bumped down to a "PG" then theres no way this could happen.

Also I thought the film wasnt finished, so how could the MPAA see it? If the MPAA is like their British and Australian counterparts, they would not be bale to rate a film until they see the finalised version that is to be released.

i_amtrunks wrote:What a load of crap.
There is no way that a film tentatively rated "R" would be bumped down to a "PG" because an Executive Producer "put it in context"
If films like Harry Potter couldnt get an "M" rating bumped down to a "PG" then theres no way this could happen.

Also I thought the film wasnt finished, so how could the MPAA see it? If the MPAA is like their British and Australian counterparts, they would not be bale to rate a film until they see the finalised version that is to be released.

well it IS STEPHEN FRICKEN SPIELBERG WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE

i think it will be PG-13...

thats crazy. rated R. pg-13 is more understanding

Autobot032 wrote:I'd surely hope it wasn't even close to a "R" rating.
I also hope that there is no F-word type language.

This is TransFormers, not Alien(s), and it shouldn't be.

It's not meant to be graphic, gory, over the top.

It's supposed to be entertaining, and fun. If your idea of those two involves heavy amounts of sex, foul language, and extreme graphic violence, well boo hoo. He's not catering this to you, or anyone else. Deal with it.

"R" rated TFs....come on...get real.

precisely why it should be "R" rated.
i very much doubt that someone being chased, shot at is going to shout out. 'oh bother', or 'sugar' or 'Jings!'

they are more likely to shout out 'holy "F bomb" i dont want to die' or 'what the "F bomb" is that' or other equally awesome examples of dropping the f bomb.......
and they may say its a kiddies film, but to be fair, if it was, they would have been better off going to Disney, Pixar etc rather than the route of action film summer blockbuster.

Isn't it true that Sunbow opted to have Spike say "****" in the original film to simply raise the rating of it to PG?

If Bay included profanity to raise the rating, he'd be keeping with one G1 tradition, at least.

Of course, in the United States, a synonym for feces was judged to be more damaging to children than watching their animated heroes get shot and killed by gunfire in movie theaters.

i_amtrunks wrote:What a load of crap.
There is no way that a film tentatively rated "R" would be bumped down to a "PG" because an Executive Producer "put it in context"
If films like Harry Potter couldnt get an "M" rating bumped down to a "PG" then theres no way this could happen.

Also I thought the film wasnt finished, so how could the MPAA see it? If the MPAA is like their British and Australian counterparts, they would not be bale to rate a film until they see the finalised version that is to be released.

I'm not familiar with "M". Where does that fall in terms of PG, PG-13, and R?

Gutsman Heavy wrote:That'll be an M for Australians then

But the local distribtors will appeal OFLC to get PG rating anyway. But a M rating doesn't stop the little ones seeing it, when I saw Star Wars Ep3 and the LOTR movies there were quite a few kids in the cinema watching. I see the MPAA R rating as a good thing, shows you can take a licence that's for young ones and give a maturity to it.

I'm not familiar with "M". Where does that fall in terms of PG, PG-13, and R?

Depending on the film, it can be between PG-13 and R. Hope this helps.