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News Credits: 4 · by **ebonyleopard** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:00 pm

Is it me or does Cliffjumper sorta look like that 3P MP scaled Toro figure?

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:15 pm

Ebonyleopard wrote:Is it me or does Cliffjumper sorta look like that 3P MP scaled Toro figure?

It's exactly what I thought when i saw him. and that thing was crap from what I heard

News Credits: 4 · by **ebonyleopard** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:20 pm

With the explanation of why Primes hands are gray I can live with that. Not like someone isn’t going to just make an upgrade kit for them anyway. We already have the perfect Roller, the targetmaster one that came with the legends class TT Prime.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:43 pm

I’m not totally sold on Hoist, but I do want to be able to display him with my Constructicons for some The Master Builders recreations. On that note, Grapple is very nice. I was never much a fan of the older CHUG figure.

That Starscream is pretty sharp, I have some hardcore regrets of getting the SIEGE figure now.

No sure about ol’ CJ, although I do like that he’ll hopefully be unique from Bumblebee.

I’ll be sticking with my Generations Wheeljack though. This isn’t different enough for me to double-dip.

I’m definitely intrigued by Ironworks or whatever his name is. New blood oil is always good.

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:47 pm

Kinda loving all these guys. I do find it somewhat weird that this is a three year storyline. Is part 3 going to be "back to Cybertron" since this is the War For Cybertron series?

Anyway, the hits keep coming. I guess I gotta buy two Optimus Primes, because that one is perfect for my son. I do like the Siege Laser Rifle (Ion Blaster my ###) better, but I guess I can live with it.

Don't know where I stand on Starscream, but we'll see what develops.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:48 pm

Ebonyleopard wrote:With the explanation of why Primes hands are gray I can live with that.

What was the explanation? I missed that.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:05 pm

Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Ebonyleopard wrote:With the explanation of why Primes hands are gray I can live with that.

What was the explanation? I missed that.

Nemesis Primal wrote:someone did ask Warden about the color changes on Prime. His response was that they were having issues with the molding where parts that were not supposed to be blue were ending up getting molded in blue, and to fix it they had to trade off the blue hands and repair drone.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:05 pm

Not gonna lie, really excited by the prospects of a selects artfire, those zany colors just do it for me over inferno by a wide margin

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:34 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Hoist: I had hopes, but then, this happened. That robot mode does not look good at all. He just, no.

I agree it doesn't. But thats cause that G1 design never looked good. I remember talking to Cobotron about this and he said of all the autobot diaclone designs, that was easily the worst. I agree.

Wheeljack: that right there is the MP shrunk down. kinda really lame.

How is that lame, sounds pretty awesome to me. The MP is an excellent toy and now I have something like that for a smaller scale.

Grapple: also the MP scaled down

Also sounds good, especially since I found the MP rather simple in every other aspect outside the ladder magic. So it will feel better at this lower scale.

without crane magic and with some hollow parts

Sounds less good now, but I think thats forgiveable.

Prime: a not very well colored version of MP-10. Also lame.

I think everyone has issues with the colours, no argument there but I think he's even worse than a shrunk down MP-10. Did you see the back of the cab? MP10 at least looks really good in cab mode.

What the hell were they thinking? We went from wonderful detail to flat boxes once again! NO! How could you regress so badly?

I can totally answer that, it's because of all the whining. The lamenting of the greebling was endless and if I was Warden I would simply think there is no reason to keep doing all the details if no one will appreciate it. No one who liked it was overly vocal, I can only recall people hating that (same with the battle damage).

by **jacob_savloff** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:48 pm

The first images of these guys, especially Cliffjumper, made me weary, but now I'm sold.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:11 pm

I just realized Zarak and Cerebros have similar connection parts for head mode. Does that mean that potentially we can swap Fort Max and Scorponok's heads?

by **emlit** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:12 pm

I’ll call it now. Wheeljack’s mold will be re-tooled as Sunstreaker.

News Credits: 1 · by **skycutter** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:24 pm

Skritz wrote:Sinxe this is all mimicking the pattern of Siege reveals (pure GEEWUN pandering+obscure things remade as weaponizers+targetmasters and micromasters, anyone want to take bets on which character from outside of GEEWUN will show up as a retool? Last time we got Galaxy Convoy. My guess is logically it would be a retool of the unseen second Leader mold as something else or a Voyager retool of some kind.

Any ideas?

A Select mudflap from grapple mold, to go with the new card we just got for him

News Credits: 3 · by **Decepticon Stryker** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:56 pm

skycutter wrote:
Skritz wrote:Sinxe this is all mimicking the pattern of Siege reveals (pure GEEWUN pandering+obscure things remade as weaponizers+targetmasters and micromasters, anyone want to take bets on which character from outside of GEEWUN will show up as a retool? Last time we got Galaxy Convoy. My guess is logically it would be a retool of the unseen second Leader mold as something else or a Voyager retool of some kind.

Any ideas?

A Select mudflap from grapple mold, to go with the new card we just got for him

Wrecker Hook from Hoist
Road Rage from the possible Tracks from Wheeljack

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:07 pm

william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Hoist: I had hopes, but then, this happened. That robot mode does not look good at all. He just, no.

I agree it doesn't. But thats cause that G1 design never looked good. I remember talking to Cobotron about this and he said of all the autobot diaclone designs, that was easily the worst. I agree.

Weird, one of my faves, probably from having the orig as a child plus it always reminded me of some of the robots in Ulysses 31 which getting toys of were near impossible back then (Shoji Kawamori creator of Macross VFs/jetfire/skids toy did some work on that cartoon too, not sure which designer created diaclone hoist). The Robot mode looks like it will go well with the classics Grapple and 3rd party ironhide as they all have back arm kibble which is partly why I'll skip Earthstrikes grapple.

Edit* also ID toys in UK has preorders up for them.

by **LE0KING** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:10 pm

Wow... G1 designs... again... so innovative.
Ironworks and the MMs are the only ones here I have any interest in at all.
Oh and fyi the nycc exclusives are up on pulse.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:31 pm

william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Hoist: I had hopes, but then, this happened. That robot mode does not look good at all. He just, no.

I agree it doesn't. But thats cause that G1 design never looked good. I remember talking to Cobotron about this and he said of all the autobot diaclone designs, that was easily the worst. I agree.

Indeed. But that's not to say that I don't like him.

Sometimes, things are good because they're so bad. When I was a kid I thought he was the derpiest thing I'd ever seen. But now, I have come to appreciate his derp.

I'm maybe most excited for Hoist out of everything we've seen.
And maybe the shield dude.

by **Skritz** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:45 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Is this in response to the bruising the GEEWUN brand team's pride took when Primal won the PotP poll?

I'm gonna catch so much **** from this but its too funny: they got TDS. Transmetal Derangement Syndrome! It was the Quintessons rigging the votes! Its gonna be like that until Star Saber wins the poll. :lol:

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:54 pm

Skritz wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Is this in response to the bruising the GEEWUN brand team's pride took when Primal won the PotP poll?

I'm gonna catch so much **** from this but its too funny: they got TDS. Transmetal Derangement Syndrome! It was the Quintessons rigging the votes! Its gonna be like that until Star Saber wins the poll.

I think it's Needlenose at this point considering he's lost 2 polls in a row :lol:

by **Skritz** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:58 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Is this in response to the bruising the GEEWUN brand team's pride took when Primal won the PotP poll?

I'm gonna catch so much **** from this but its too funny: they got TDS. Transmetal Derangement Syndrome! It was the Quintessons rigging the votes! Its gonna be like that until Star Saber wins the poll.

I think it's Needlenose at this point considering he's lost 2 polls in a row

IT WAS HIS TURN! :BOOM:

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:45 am

It's Stalkers turn. You Americans need to embrace his awesomeness even though he wasn't released there.

by **frogbat** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:12 am

The previous siege line had me more excited I must admit. Was hoping for more cyber torn centric modes... Wheeljack especially. Also, the original generations toys was one of my faves and this one doesn’t seem to eclipse him.

Starscream looks like an oversized deluxe figure and am very curious to get a better look at him. Absolutely love the tetra jet version... might get one of the inevitable repaints of this one.

Windcharger.. I mean cliffjumper (the alt mode has me confused) looks good but the bazooka and wheel skids are what’s selling him.

Hoist and grapple were two of my least favourite generations figures, together with their repaints. These hit the spot...

Love the Micromasters base... was one of my favourite play patterns as a kid and was perhaps for me the last hurrah for transformers personally. The pretenders and action masters didn’t quite do it for me...

So what do you transform into? A muscle car.. And you? A crane.. And you? A jet sir!... What about you? A ramp! No no I mean a shield!

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:56 am

Ebonyleopard wrote:With the explanation of why Primes hands are gray I can live with that. Not like someone isn’t going to just make an upgrade kit for them anyway. We already have the perfect Roller, the targetmaster one that came with the legends class TT Prime.

Except no copy of Optimus Prine since that time that I have laid hands on has heen able to hold that Roller, he's too loose and swings like a dousing rod. Not Siege, not the Beast Hunter Voyager, not Combiner Wars, I ha e given up.

Best Roller I still think is Armada Commetor. 6 wheels, large gun, etc. But I do really like the CW Rook mold so if it fits I may revice that just because.

by **Jeddostotle7** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:00 am

Dear god i am loving all of this.

Soundblater looks nice, interesting that they're basically selling a ramp for the new connection system all by itself.

The Micromaster packs continue to look pretty good.

Cliffjumper looks great (and if Runabout and Runamuck will be retools of him, they'll probably look great too).

Wheeljack looks fantastic, and I'm up for any redecos or retools we get from him.

Hoist looks great (one of the G1 designs I've been most interested in seeing update directly, along with Grapple/Inferno, and neither disappoint), expecting Trailbreaker to look great too and hope we get some creative redecos/retools from it in Selects (someone mentioned RID2015 Strongarm, which I'd definitely be up for).

Grapple, as mentioned above, looks wonderful, can't wait to see Inferno and Artfire (and hope we get a redeco as Mudflap to go with Mudflap's inclusion in the card game, I would be super down for that).

Earth Mode Starscream looks generally good but a bit rough around the edges, although that's also what I thought about Siege Starscream when it was initially revealed and now I love it, so hopefully it'll further grow on me as we see more of it and I get it in hand. Can't wait for Thundercracker, Skywarp, the Coneheads, and redecos into other Seekers that have appeared on Earth.

Optimus: yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes, FINALLY an entirely direct update of G1, with trailer included. The grey hands bug me a little, but I can deal with it. Also glad the truck mode is still so close to the Freightliner's lines and curves, even if it's not imitating it directly. The truck mode just feels "right" somehow.

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:12 am

...hang on, no one's mentioned this yet: Y'know how in the past multiple board members, me included, have tried to use the TCG card reveals as hints of upcoming characters, and then everyone yells at them that that isn't how it works? Well the new cards from today, with the new Mercenary faction? The promotional blurb/product description for them BLATANTLY STATES that Mercenaries are going to be a thing in the Earthrise line as well, it's even in at least 1 of the 2 articles about them on this very site, and the preorder descriptions from BBTS and TFSource for the Earthrise figures backs that up. I don't know about anyone else, but I think a Deadlock, Lockdown, or Detritus would be a welcome addition to this overall boring G1-again lineup we have so far, and would easily make up for how overall meh the line looks right now.

I know not everyone thinks the line is meh please don't focus on that part of the comment. :-$