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Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:46 am

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Only bummer is, again, we have a set that doesn't really make any sense compared to the planet it's on. I think they should have thought that through more

The clones set makes sense if you factor in the previously released Decepticon clones. Since their Beast Planet bio talks about beast bots vs non beast bots. of course they don's include pounce and wingspan in their read-up, but it makes sense in a round-about sorta way.

But I would like more than a roundabout answer. "Beast planet" = autobot clones because their archenemies are beastformers is just not as straightforward as I'd like it to be.

The micromasters and Paradron set are the only ones where I feel the theme and the bots included actually fit appropriately.


It almost seems like they started out with an idea with the Paradon set, and then just ran out of time do develop any type of coherent backstory for the other 4 and just threw some figures they wanted to redeco or re-release and just made something up to sort of fit.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:20 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:Or if you don't want it to be space-themed, you could just call him Glasspit anyway like you mentioned in your more recent post.


Thank you. Actually the space theme doesn't bother me, it's pretty cool actually, I just don't like repaints of the same character. I'll probably just call him Glasspit even though the colors and accessories dont match ;) .

I mean back in the day, if they just named all 3 Jets "Starscream", and you could just happen to get him in 3 different colors, I think the history of Transformers would be very different... ;) . Does anyone happen to remember Super Human Samurai Syber-Squad (The Westernization of Gridman), Playmates released the titular character in at least a dozen different colors (just straight repaints, nto even new accessories) instead of releasing more monster figures. Killed the line instantly. I'm not saying this example is the same by any means, but Hasbro has been pretty good about creating new character names and profiles for using the same mold on multiple occasions, they just need to keep doing it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:27 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:Or if you don't want it to be space-themed, you could just call him Glasspit anyway like you mentioned in your more recent post.


Thank you. Actually the space theme doesn't bother me, it's pretty cool actually, I just don't like repaints of the same character. I'll probably just call him Glasspit even though the colors and accessories dont match ;) .

I mean back in the day, if they just named all 3 Jets "Starscream", and you could just happen to get him in 3 different colors, I think the history of Transformers would be very different... ;) . Does anyone happen to remember Super Human Samurai Syber-Squad (The Westernization of Gridman), Playmates released the titular character in at least a dozen different colors (just straight repaints, nto even new accessories) instead of releasing more monster figures. Killed the line instantly. I'm not saying this example is the same by any means, but Hasbro has been pretty good about creating new character names and profiles for using the same mold on multiple occasions, they just need to keep doing it.
100% this. Adding a new name and a couple of sentences worth of backstory does so much more than just giving the figure a new deco.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:46 am

So I just gat Runamuck yesterday and I have to say he is a really solid figure. The only real complaint are the fake wheels on the back of his feet. I appreciate what they were trying to do in mimicking his original toy, but it just looks dumb. Good intentions, but bad execution.

Other than that, I find him to be a really fun figure to transform. I really like how between Wheeljack, Sunstreaker and Runamuck, they came up with 3 similar yet different transformations.

Wave 3 deluxes turned out really solid.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Munkky » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:31 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:56 pm

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o.supreme wrote:I mean back in the day, if they just named all 3 Jets "Starscream", and you could just happen to get him in 3 different colors, I think the history of Transformers would be very different... ;) .
You know, if they had done that, I bet the fiction would have depicted him as some sort of camouflaging spy with color-changing powers, or as having three different colorations for different missions: Black for space missions, gray for sky missions, and blue for sea missions.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:54 pm

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o.supreme wrote:I mean back in the day, if they just named all 3 Jets "Starscream", and you could just happen to get him in 3 different colors, I think the history of Transformers would be very different... ;) .
You know, if they had done that, I bet the fiction would have depicted him as some sort of camouflaging spy with color-changing powers, or as having three different colorations for different missions: Black for space missions, gray for sky missions, and blue for sea missions.


Kinda like an expanded RiD 2015 "desert camo" and "arctic camo" thing, only limited to one single character? :-? *imagines a box set of 25 different decos*
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:54 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So I just gat Runamuck yesterday and I have to say he is a really solid figure. The only real complaint are the fake wheels on the back of his feet. I appreciate what they were trying to do in mimicking his original toy, but it just looks dumb. Good intentions, but bad execution.

Since he has to have heel parts for stability anyway, I like that they engineered the fake wheels. I wish they had painted the hubcaps, but since that part slides into a narrow space, I guess the paint would get rubbed off anyway.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:19 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:35 am

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Okay, it's been pointed out to me what the Botropolis space shuttle Micromasters are based on, deco-wise, and boy is it super obscure!

Like, not even "Japanese G1" obscure, but "Universe 2003 Big Lots/CVS Pharmacy exclusive" obscure!

Their deco is based on Universe Storm Jet, the Hasbro redeco of the 1992 Japanese Sixwing space shuttle component Micromaster Raker.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Overcracker » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:56 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Okay, it's been pointed out to me what the Botropolis space shuttle Micromasters are based on, deco-wise, and boy is it super obscure!

Like, not even "Japanese G1" obscure, but "Universe 2003 Big Lots/CVS Pharmacy exclusive" obscure!

Their deco is based on Universe Storm Jet, the Hasbro redeco of the 1992 Japanese Sixwing space shuttle component Micromaster Raker.

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How incredibly Random. Who even remembers that release?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:01 pm

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The color matches, for sure, but it also matches Armada Jetfire in Energon colors...Whether it's a direct call back , or just an attempt at a color match is anyone's guess. I actually had the universe Combiners when released through KB, not sure if the Big Lots/CVS were the same, or slightly different. As I posted in a different thread, I am kicking myself now for selling those, as they would have went well with my current collection. :-(
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby transform75 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:38 pm

Just got the rescue team :)

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:24 pm

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transform75 wrote:Just got these bad boys

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If Amazon is right I'll be getting this set before Ironhide and Ratchet

Sabrblade wrote:Okay, it's been pointed out to me what the Botropolis space shuttle Micromasters are based on, deco-wise, and boy is it super obscure!

Like, not even "Japanese G1" obscure, but "Universe 2003 Big Lots/CVS Pharmacy exclusive" obscure!

Their deco is based on Universe Storm Jet, the Hasbro redeco of the 1992 Japanese Sixwing space shuttle component Micromaster Raker.

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I should've caught this, I have that set. Got all the Universe Micromaster Combiners from KB Toys online. Might have been the only time I bought anything from that site.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:20 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:24 pm

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It's just something someone mentioned, not the horse I'm backing, besides one is on a white background, and one is on a very dark background, they look similar enough. Again, not saying they ARE the same, but close. Also not saying this IS the inspiration, but could be just as much as the CVS one.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:29 pm

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Does the background matter?

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:40 pm

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Yep looks the same color now. Thank you ;)^
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Whifflefire » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:13 pm

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How incredibly Random. Who even remembers that release?



I do! One of my earliest sets. Summer 2008, we were in a CVS and there in the toys section were the whole set, all six. Because my brother was with me, my mother had us split the set between us, three for him and three for me. Storm Jet was one of mine. I was 8, he was 4. I believe that was the first and last time I've ever gotten Transformers at CVS. Unfortunately, we've since lost the head and Air-raid, but the rest are all intact, even the GPS-laden crotch piece.

But you're right, it is a pretty random reference if intentional.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:18 pm

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How incredibly Random. Who even remembers that release?



I do! One of my earliest sets. Summer 2008, we were in a CVS and there in the toys section were the whole set, all six. Because my brother was with me, my mother had us split the set between us, three for him and three for me. Storm Jet was one of mine. I was 8, he was 4. I believe that was the first and last time I've ever gotten Transformers at CVS. Unfortunately, we've since lost the head and Air-raid, but the rest are all intact, even the GPS-laden crotch piece.

But you're right, it is a pretty random reference if intentional.

You talking about the CVS Aerialbots set??

I still have that.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Whifflefire » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:52 pm

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sol magnus wrote:You talking about the CVS Aerialbots set??

I still have that.



Yep! Of course, I mean 'set' loosely, they were all individually packaged, but as a combiner team I think it applies.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:58 am

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transform75 wrote:Just got these bad boys

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I wouldn't call Earthrise Ratchet bad, just disappointing (I wanted an A.I.R.Lock version of the full G1 sled/repair bay, not its Transform Jr cousin).

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:23 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Okay, it's been pointed out to me what the Botropolis space shuttle Micromasters are based on, deco-wise, and boy is it super obscure!

Like, not even "Japanese G1" obscure, but "Universe 2003 Big Lots/CVS Pharmacy exclusive" obscure!

That's really cool, I'm surprised they figured that out, but they do pull a few rabbits out of their hats every now and then like repainting Astrotrain like a duo from Landcross. I never got the Universe versions of these molds because I got many of the Japanese versions (the "reissues" not the originals: Six Wing, Six Turbo, Six Builder, and Decepticon Six Builder) from a seller, I think it was called Snarl's Shop, for something like $25 a set.

I think I'll continue to call the front half Storm Jet, but call the rear half Skyboom after the Energon Mini-con shuttle. Speaking of which, that mold also got the same Storm Jet color scheme three years later as Cybertron Ramjet.

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In other news, Target canceled my Trailbreaker order, again claiming I didn't approve his delay. That's total BS, I did approve the delay on him and Sunstreaker as they were in the same order and the other two from wave 3 had shipped. Sunstreaker wasn't cancelled, in fact I got an other delay for him that I had to again approve, he and Sunstreaker were still in the same order together as of a few days ago. Looks like I'll have to hope I can find him at a decent price elsewhere, sure won't be as good as what I would have paid for him ($15 after .5% tax and free shipping).

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:28 am

Emerje wrote:In other news, Target canceled my Trailbreaker order, again claiming I didn't approve his delay. That's total BS, I did approve the delay on him and Sunstreaker as they were in the same order and the other two from wave 3 had shipped. Sunstreaker wasn't cancelled, in fact I got an other delay for him that I had to again approve, he and Sunstreaker were still in the same order together as of a few days ago. Looks like I'll have to hope I can find him at a decent price elsewhere, sure won't be as good as what I would have paid for him ($15 after .5% tax and free shipping).

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I had the same/opposite happen to me, they cancelled Sunstreaker claiming I didn't approve the delay, but asked me to approve a delay on Trailbreaker which would make me lose the BOGO price. I had previously approved delays on both. I already thought they might be cancelled and ordered from Amazon and received them already last week.
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