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News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:35 am

Going too much "biology accurate" would be pretty dumb. Because Dinobot would be turkey sized and like Megatron, would be covered in feathers all over.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:06 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:Going too much "biology accurate" would be pretty dumb. Because Dinobot would be turkey sized and like Megatron, would be covered in feathers all over.

Yeah, I think the creators of Beast Wars even touched on that. Which is why the visuals for Dinobot and Megatron are more Jurassic Park than based on current archaeological findings. Weird that Terrorsaur seemed based on neither though. As his wings didn't seem to bend, to aid his ability to stand or walk in Beast Mode :-?

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:02 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:Going too much "biology accurate" would be pretty dumb. Because Dinobot would be turkey sized and like Megatron, would be covered in feathers all over.

Rattrap, Inferno, and the spiders show beast mode scale is out the window. That said, a feathered Dinobot would be interesting, as has been previously demonstrated.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:12 am

Yes, but the Raptor from JP is more instantly recognisable to pop culture.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:43 am

And let's also not forget that, because they went Jurassic Park with them, Dinobot and Megatron were the two who had the most detailed textures of any Season 1 beast modes. Their scales were so pronounced you could see each and every one of them, while all of the furry beast modes looked more like clay than hair. Dinobot and Megatron had the most effort put into their beast mode textures, making them look all the more cooler.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:43 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yes, but the Raptor from JP is more instantly recognisable to pop culture.

This doesn't stop them from making an original character with a nice heavy retool.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:24 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yes, but the Raptor from JP is more instantly recognisable to pop culture.

This doesn't stop them from making an original character with a nice heavy retool.

Agreed. But back in '96, it would have.

News Credits: 1 · by **just_aCloud** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:45 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Weird that Terrorsaur seemed based on neither though. As his wings didn't seem to bend, to aid his ability to stand or walk in Beast Mode

Which is probably one of the most hilarious things about the BW show, whether it was intended or not.

Random side note: Sadly, Terrorsaur is the reason I can't get my wife to watch BW with me. She thinks his voice is too grating.

Which sucks because I think he's a great character, for the role he's meant to fill in the show anyway.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:57 pm

Of the two that were written off in the Season Two premiere, only Terrorsaur had actual wasted potential. Scorponok was just an embarrassment. Replaced as a scientist (Tarantulas) and as the loyal muscle (Inferno) by better characters. His inclusion here is a bit off in that respect. Then again this is the Season One cast, so he kind of has to be here. Like Airazor. I don't think either of them would be winning any fan poll inclusions otherwise.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:05 pm

Brainstorm: what if Terrorsaur ends up as a retool of Airazor as an exclusive somewhere down the line?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:41 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Brainstorm: what if Terrorsaur ends up as a retool of Airazor as an exclusive somewhere down the line?

That's my thinking as well, probably an Amazon exclusive like Earth mode Coneheads and Ironhide and Prowl

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:29 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Of the two that were written off in the Season Two premiere, only Terrorsaur had actual wasted potential. Scorponok was just an embarrassment. Replaced as a scientist (Tarantulas) and as the loyal muscle (Inferno) by better characters. His inclusion here is a bit off in that respect. Then again this is the Season One cast, so he kind of has to be here. Like Airazor. I don't think either of them would be winning any fan poll inclusions otherwise.

Sad thing about that Scorponok was the only Predacon loyal to Megatron (until Inferno) and for the most part the most semi capable of his followers too -except for when he had to command. He's not that bad a character in all.

News Credits: 1 · by **just_aCloud** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:34 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Of the two that were written off in the Season Two premiere, only Terrorsaur had actual wasted potential.

Very true. Would have been great to see him as a Transmetal in S2.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Brainstorm: what if Terrorsaur ends up as a retool of Airazor as an exclusive somewhere down the line?

Sounds right. I think the look of the robot mode they give Airazor might resolve this train of thought?

In some ways it's hard for me to imagine it being easy to turn Airazor into Terrorsaur. Seems like they have a lot more differences than just head sculpt and color scheme, to say nothing of their respective beast modes. They are kind of opposites in terms of feathers vs scales, beaks vs teeth, claws vs wings, etc. Not that I can claim to know much about the Transformer action figure creation process.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:52 pm

I'm kind of hoping for something like Primes Shockwaves lab for Tarantulus (and preferably not with a baby Terrorsaur mini figure) than do one for Fractyl and they can both link up to be bigger.

News Credits: 1 · by **just_aCloud** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:02 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:I'm kind of hoping for something like Primes Shockwaves lab for Tarantulus

Explain? Is this from Transformers Prime?

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:30 pm

Poly Wraith wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:I'm kind of hoping for something like Primes Shockwaves lab for Tarantulus

Explain? Is this from Transformers Prime?

Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Shockwave (Shockwave's Lab) Gallery

It was a SDCC 2013 exclusive set.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:31 pm

Poly Wraith wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:I'm kind of hoping for something like Primes Shockwaves lab for Tarantulus

Explain? Is this from Transformers Prime?

Yeagh transformers prime. Kingdoms kind of lost the play set/bases from wfc so it would be nice if they did something and I think Tarantulus would work well with it (fractyl too but he might be a bit obscure with him being a terorsaur repaint).

News Credits: 1 · by **just_aCloud** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:19 am

King Kuuga wrote:
Poly Wraith wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:I'm kind of hoping for something like Primes Shockwaves lab for Tarantulus

Explain? Is this from Transformers Prime?

Transformers Comic-Con Exclusives Shockwave (Shockwave's Lab) Gallery

It was a SDCC 2013 exclusive set.

Might be cool to see that web-trap + computer screen setup that Tarantulus used to capture Cheetor in "The Web" episode.

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:54 pm

Trying to figure out where they can get Tracks from for Kingdom, I'm looking at Wheeljack, and I just don't see how they can retool him into Tracks.

Transformation wise there's no where to stick wings in, and nowhere for the jet mode fins to come from in car mode.

Maybe he'll be a new mold. Cause from what I've seen from Sunstreaker, it doesn't look he has anything for Tracks either.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:03 pm

I'm thinking and hoping new mold. Tracks should be a little more lithe than Wheeljack ended up being.

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:06 pm

Overcracker wrote:Trying to figure out where they can get Tracks from for Kingdom, I'm looking at Wheeljack, and I just don't see how they can retool him into Tracks.

Transformation wise there's no where to stick wings in, and nowhere for the jet mode fins to come from in car mode.

Maybe he'll be a new mold. Cause from what I've seen from Sunstreaker, it doesn't look he has anything for Tracks either.
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There's no need to retool him. They're using engineering tricks to effect the transformations without sharing molds now.

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:12 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm thinking and hoping new mold. Tracks should be a little more lithe than Wheeljack ended up being.

Yup, its looking very likely to be a new mold.

sol magnus wrote:There's no need to retool him. They're using engineering tricks to effect the transformations without sharing molds now.

They share parts if not molds per se.

Even the heavy retools we've seen from Prime and Megs, kept some parts from the original mold. Oddly enough Leader EarthRise Prime keeps not only the shins and feet from WFC Prime, but also the actual hinge for the rear tire transformation although its rendered immovable on him by the back of his shins.

I guess It could be en extensive re-engineering like Prime and Megs, and only keep the Windshield chest engineering if anything.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:32 pm

I'm thinking that Tracks will probably be like Siege Sudeswipe and basically be a scaled down MP. Tracks and Road Rage are such a simple MP mold that they could probably get away with it too

News Credits: 1 · by **just_aCloud** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:48 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm thinking that Tracks will probably be like Siege Sudeswipe and basically be a scaled down MP. Tracks and Road Rage are such a simple MP mold that they could probably get away with it too

That would most likely end up being a wonderful toy.

I also just took another look at the little graphic from earlier today showing what is supposed to be a leak of the contents of each wave, then realized I think I'm actually pretty excited about ol' Huffer. If he's as G1-inspired-yet-updated as all the other 'bots we've seen in this toyline, then I think he's going to be an easy "yes" for me. Definitely anticipating that toy now.

Furthermore, if anything in that "leak" image is real, then:

Wave 2 excitement - Dinobot, Huffer, Magnus
Wave 3 excitement - Tracks, Rhinox
Wave 4 excitement - Waspinator, Slammer
Selects excitement - ermm...maybe Artfire. Wish it was actually RID Artfire/Hot Shot though...I got re-heeeally excited for a second there before I realized this was just an obscure geewunner I didn't know about... -_- *sigh * I'll just have to look forward with hope towards the 25th anniversary of RID/CR I guess.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:10 pm

Poly Wraith wrote:I also just took another look at the little graphic from earlier today showing what is supposed to be a leak of the contents of each wave