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by **Flabface** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:10 am

And you don't see it Transform as it is thrown to the wall? You can see Barricade's Red Eyes when he looks up at Ironhide after getting thrown down.

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:13 am

Flabface wrote:And you don't see it Transform as it is thrown to the wall? You can see Barricade's Red Eyes when he looks up at Ironhide after getting thrown down.

i'm not sure you've seen the same movie as i did.. of maybe you were just on drugs. but i can assure you that isnt barricade. It's a mercedes for christ's sake. I'll post a picture of it later on. I'm at work now so i cant.

**edit**
he isn't thrown at the wall. Ironhide picks up the car to shield himself and/or sam from blackout, but gets shot, falls and drops the car.

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:35 pm

as promised; the screenshots of that scene in which you think barricade gets thrown against a wall by ironhide.

This is a clear shot of the car before ironhide picks it up. Note that there are no decals whatsoever and (not as clear on picture) that it is a mercedes and therefore cannot be barricade

Quite blurry but still clear that the car that ironhide picks up is NOT barricade.

hope this helped clarify this fact

by **Saberwing** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:02 pm

..those pics are pretty clear. Barricade that car isnt

..but am i right in thinking the black car is a soft top in the first picture but a hardtop when ironhide pics it up?!?

by **primalVICTORY** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:17 pm

may i ask how or where you are gettin these screenshots?

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:09 pm

no it is a hardtop in both pictures, just not as visible in the first. the screenshots were taken about 2 secs apart and were part of the exact same scene, so it would have to be a fault in the cgi if what you say is indeed true

the screenshots were made from my computer

by **primalVICTORY** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:11 pm

ok..umm, r u gettin them from a site or do u just have the movie or sumthing and taking screenshots?

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:12 pm

primalVICTORY wrote:ok..umm, r u gettin them from a site or do u just have the movie or sumthing and taking screenshots?

i have the movie on my computer and those screenshots come directly from windows media player

by **primalVICTORY** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:19 pm

madMike wrote:
primalVICTORY wrote:ok..umm, r u gettin them from a site or do u just have the movie or sumthing and taking screenshots?

i have the movie on my computer and those screenshots come directly from windows media player

where did u get the movie from? or is that a secret..?

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:21 pm

ok listen i could tell you. it's no secret. it's just that it's against the rules of the forum and i dont feel like getting a ban or worse.

by **primalVICTORY** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:23 pm

i here ya..daamn, i wanna know so bad now lol.

:-?

whats another way...

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:28 pm

sorry for the late reply. i was scoping around other topics. another way would be to somehow obtain my e-mail adres or for me to magically obtain yours.. ofcourse to talk about milk and cookies

by **primalVICTORY** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:31 pm

you no what..nvm. its alright. i dont really need to know. if its going to get me the movie well..ill just wait like everyone else has too so its fair.

by **Azrael77** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:12 pm

Ok, lets think about this. If it indeed is a mercedes, harmlessly just hanging around between Sam and Blackout why would Ironhide grab it?! (not focusing on blackout at all) and throw it down to the side?! Its baffling but very logical! :???:

just a wee bit of sarcasm.

Next scenario... an actual Decepticon is hiding in plain sight and Ironhide spots him before he can make a move and take him out so that sam may continue his mission. (sounds more plausible to me)

If you look closely something(decepticon) transforms into robot mode after being slammed down my Ironhide... so explain that. It is like only a split second but it does happen.

News Credits: 1 · by **muzicdox** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:20 pm

Azrael77 wrote:Ok, lets think about this. If it indeed is a mercedes, harmlessly just hanging around between Sam and Blackout why would Ironhide grab it?! (not focusing on blackout at all) and throw it down to the side?! Its baffling but very logical! just a wee bit of sarcasm.

Next scenario... an actual Decepticon is hiding in plain sight and Ironhide spots him before he can make a move and take him out so that sam may continue his mission. (sounds more plausible to me)

If you look closely something(decepticon) transforms into robot mode after being slammed down my Ironhide... so explain that. It is like only a split second but it does happen.

Well, Ironhide picked the car up as a shield against Blackout's rocket firing against him that is why the car was shattered when the rocket hit it... I saw the movie the fourth time... that was no Barricade...

If you pay close attention in the highway scene... Barricade bailed out early and to an exit... before Bonecrusher and Optimus Prime battled it out...

I also think that Barricade was able to Transform to his Car mode but not able to fight because Bumblebee beat the "COP" out of him I mean crap....

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:23 pm

muzicdox wrote:
Azrael77 wrote:Ok, lets think about this. If it indeed is a mercedes, harmlessly just hanging around between Sam and Blackout why would Ironhide grab it?! (not focusing on blackout at all) and throw it down to the side?! Its baffling but very logical! just a wee bit of sarcasm.

Next scenario... an actual Decepticon is hiding in plain sight and Ironhide spots him before he can make a move and take him out so that sam may continue his mission. (sounds more plausible to me)

If you look closely something(decepticon) transforms into robot mode after being slammed down my Ironhide... so explain that. It is like only a split second but it does happen.

Well, Ironhide picked the car up as a shield against Blackout's rocket firing against him that is why the car was shattered when the rocket hit it... I saw the movie the fourth time... that was no black out...

If you pay close attention in the highway scene... Barricade bailed out early and to an exit... before Bonecrusher and Optimus Prime battled it out...

I also think that Barricade was able to Transform to his Car mode but not able to fight because Bumblebee beat the "COP" out of him I mean crap....

exactly; as i stated earlier he picks up the car to either throw it at blackout or to shield himself and/or sam from whatever blackout fires at them. he doesnt throw the car, he just drops it when he gets hit by blackout right before he takes off.
having seen what kind of damage barricade can take from the fight with bumblebee, i doubt he would lose his wheels because he got dropped.

by **Azrael77** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:26 pm

I still don't think that is why he would grap that car. I have been "watching" it and something transforms....

by **primalVICTORY** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:27 pm

and i really doubt a TF would lose its wheels from gettin dropped. u see them get hit or sumthing and dont lose parts that easily.

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:27 pm

Azrael77 wrote:I still don't think that is why he would grap that car. I have been "watching" it and something transforms....

trust me, i have this movie on my pc. i've watched that part about 20 times and i dont see anything transform. just a wheel flying through the air.

by **primalVICTORY** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:28 pm

you might just see something get hit and its moved that may look like something that its not.

by **Azrael77** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:29 pm

I also have the movie on my pc and it appears to be something. I guess we will never know until the DVD comes out or maybe the next movie will explain it.

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:35 pm

Azrael77 wrote:I also have the movie on my pc and it appears to be something. I guess we will never know until the DVD comes out or maybe the next movie will explain it.

ok i think i see what you mean. right after ironhide picks up the car blackout shoots at him and actually hits the car, making it kinda explode which might look like it transforming. i can post a screenshot if you like.

by **Azrael77** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:42 pm

There is no explosion but the camera pans to the left where Ironhide smashes the car down and it looks like a robot. Then it goes back right towards sam.

by **madMike** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:46 pm

Azrael77 wrote:There is no explosion but the camera pans to the left where Ironhide smashes the car down and it looks like a robot. Then it goes back right towards sam.

gee.. that looks an aweful lot like an explosion to me!