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tacogrande wrote:I guess it comes down to ethics and manners. I wouldn't go to someone's house and rearrange the furniture and hide their mail under their car or something. Then again I'm the kind of person who returns the carts to the stations in the parking lot as opposed to just leaving them in a parking space.
I can see why people hide toys, but just because they want something doesn't make it right to do whatever they can. It's not survival of the fittest, it's first come first serve. But like at a restaurant you can't get served without paying. (Ok maybe you could but lets not go into that, it'd be like a bad sitcom episode.)
If the figure was bought on Monday, or hidden and bought on Friday, the result remains the same.
Bigdaddymcqueen wrote:i worked for walmarts and i can tell you everything thats hidden is eventully found!! if not by the hider, then by mangement! remember everything you do in that store is on video!i myself remember finding all kinds of hidden goodies. never a transformer though, tons of treasure hunts and some action figures.
bumble_bee_68 wrote:Bigdaddymcqueen wrote:i worked for walmarts and i can tell you everything thats hidden is eventully found!! if not by the hider, then by mangement! remember everything you do in that store is on video!i myself remember finding all kinds of hidden goodies. never a transformer though, tons of treasure hunts and some action figures.
You are right. Every department store has security cameras and undercover officers working in the store all day. So whatever you "hide in plain sight" willl be found and returned to the correct peg hook/shelf.
I work for Target, and security usually works in the toy dept. which is usually across from electronics. I know. I always find hidden toys EVERYWHERE and they go right back to the correct place. ALWAYS. Plus I usually work in toys 3 days a week. So I know.
megatron7 wrote:bottom line, collecting is like survival of the fittest, u have to realize that theres people to whom transformers are really important, they are willing to do stuff u people who dont approve hiding might not do, so ur just going to have to deal with it, so to u a toy might not be worth hiding, or it might not be right to do that, but other people just dont care or its more important to them
Ragnorok64 wrote:I always hear people saying that Transformers are for kids and the like, but if that were the case, why have price points above Voyager. Further what about stuff like the Masterpiece line, and Alternators. They're focused as as much on collectors too.
Renovating wrote:megatron7 wrote:bottom line, collecting is like survival of the fittest, u have to realize that theres people to whom transformers are really important, they are willing to do stuff u people who dont approve hiding might not do, so ur just going to have to deal with it, so to u a toy might not be worth hiding, or it might not be right to do that, but other people just dont care or its more important to them
I dont agree on this, transformers are mostly made for kids who like to play with them and enjoy them. Hasbro focuses on them mostly and not on most of us. My brother was sorta heartbroken when he couldnt find a optimus primal in our walmart (there were like 3 a few days ago).
A few hours later my brother was opening drawers because he found a penny in one, hoping to find more, and found an optimus primal. I myself do support "hiding", but when you just leave it there and doesnt come back to it is just wrong. Ive hidden one toy, because I was sure that classics grimlock would be gone soon, but now i feel sorta bad because some kid probably wanted it.
Think of the kids.
Edit: Im pretty sure I need to get back on topic.
A few days ago A crapload(im guessing they forgot to put them out)of cybertron and classics figures where everywhere. I saw 2-4 grimlocks that day, knowing that before transformers sold out fast. I hid one grimlock knowing that i got my allowance the next day. But right now this is all im planning to hide.
They had a 08 bumblebee there too, and its been there for a week.
Autobot032 wrote:I really would love to see more understanding people such as yourself. I've learned one thing about fandoms...at their very core is nothing but a bunch of self-serving, selfish bastards.
All of the people I know that have hidden items *do* in fact, go back and retrieve the item for purchase. I've never heard of an account of someone leaving the item and forgetting that it was there, etc.
The people that rally against this are the same ones who are just pissed off because they can't get it and sooner than they'd like (or later) they're going to be beaten to it when it's finally paid for. They just can't fathom the idea that someone else might get what they believe they're entitled to.
They're not entitled to a damn thing. I don't care how much money they make or what their personal stance on the issue is. If they're not there first, it's their fault. It happens to me *ALL* the time, and it will happen again. There's not a single thing I can do about it, except go through another option and get the goodies I want. Whether it's preorder, online stores, eBay, etc.
A lot of those who complain about not bringing enough money are the same type who throw around a credit card like you and I breathe air. They either have the money to back it up, or they're so in debt that it doesn't matter either way if they spend that $10.00 extra bucks. They also look down on the poor like a plague because they want a chance to buy the items too which really, really pisses me off. (that type of thinking's even more selfish)
"I earn my money the hard way, going to work everyday. I make more than you, do more than you, so I'm more important than you and I deserve those TransFormers a hell of a lot more than you, you poor cheap slacker piece of sh*t" is what this comes across as, and even if they don't say it, they think it, and their posts certainly convey it.
As long as the item gets paid for and not stolen (which makes their profits rise, and more items made for selling) is it really hurting you? No. Your impatience is. If you go to "ePay" as you put it, then it's your fault. I didn't go to eBay for Bumblebee. I waited, I saved my money from stupid decisions and in the end I was able to walk into Kohl's and buy him right then, right there.
Follow your own advice people: Be there before everyone else and beat them to it. That way you win, they lose, and the search is over. It'll make you happy and feel warm inside knowing that you beat the rest of us to a toy because you were able to flash your American Express because you work 90 million hours a week, or daddy gave you access to your trust fund.
Not all of us can be so fortunate to just go out at the drop of a hat and buy whatever we damn well please. It doesn't work like that. Oh and a clue for those of you who look down on the poor (and there's at least two posters on here that do, one freely admits it)...nothing in life is guaranteed. Money will be gone sooner or later and when you think you'll never have to ask for help or be poor...ever...heh. Watch, life throws us curveballs every day, and one of those days it might just come your way.
Be a little more patient and understanding with your fellow collectors and people in general. You'd be amazed at what good fortunes (outside of money) might come your way.
You know what would make me laugh the hardest? If kids were the ones beating us to the punch. It's not only justified, but then we'd have a legitimate reason to physically beat you snotless if you got pissed over a kid getting what's actually meant for them. But that's not the case, is it? No.
Even they're getting burned out of this one, and one of the saddest things I heard last week was from a 10 year old boy... "Gramma, why can't I find Bummelbee*? They don't make him anymore do they?" *=and yes, that's how he pronounced it.
Some of the people that hide these items, yeah...they affect the kids, I won't lie, but they don't affect them anymore than you do. If you had the cash and you bought it right there, right off the shelf, you'd walk away from the kid (with a sad look on his face) and go straight for the register and never think twice about it. If the item was put on Layaway, it too would be out of the reach of you and kids, but it's a legit practice and you'd still deny people that as well. Some of these people who do Layaway, and hide...are doing it for their kids, or younger siblings, etc.
At the end of the day, you'll enjoy your TransFormers and whatever else you collect, but at what cost? The kids who really deserve first dibs, and your fellow collectors. You know, if more of us actually gave a damn about other people, you'd see a network of people actually working together, not trying to screw each other over.
The collecting is one aspect, but when you cut right to middle of it...it's just plain old selfishness and it encompasses everything you do in life.
"Fukitol: When life gets you down, take one. When it comes to thinking of, or helping another person, take one. Each pill is a full year's dose of "Kiss My Ass, Loser in a convenient, once a day pill, so you don't have to be troubled with the fact that other people share the planet with you. You deserve this, Fukitol."
Like I said before, find another crusade.
megatroptimus wrote:I never hide stuff. Think about it. ADULTS hiding TOYS. Laaaaaaaaaaame.
megatroptimus wrote:Never happened to me.
Ultra Prime wrote:Well, I'm not going to hate on those of you that hide toys to buy later. But I will say that I think it is a chump move. Doing that denies people/kids/collectors with the money to purchase the TF the chance to get it. It's not as bad as scalpers but doing that denies someone the opportunity to get that TF in much the same way that scalpers do by buying everything up. I can say this because I don't hide TF's to buy later. If it's on the shelf and I don't have the money I can't get it. Simple as that.
DorkimusPrime wrote:you people are asshats, hiding figures from people who actually have the money to buy them.
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