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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:05 pm

In various media relating to the Movie story, it is mentioned/implied that Optimus Prime and Megatron from the Movie universe are brothers. But there's one problem, who's older and who's younger?

What you guys think? Between Prime and Megs, who do you think is the older brother, who do you think is the younger brother, and why?

by **Night Raid** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:32 pm

I think Prime's the older one.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:39 pm

Night Raid wrote:I think Prime's the older one.

You have to explain why you think so as well.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:39 pm

double post, my bad

by **Night Raid** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:56 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Night Raid wrote:I think Prime's the older one.

You have to explain why you think so as well.

I'm not sure why I think so. It's just a feeling I have. It seems right somehow.

News Credits: 7 · by **Omega Charge** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:32 am

Probably because Prime is more laid back, and he's the one who almost feels sympathy for his brother. So maybe Prime a bit older, but roughly the same age.

by **Raymond101** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:45 pm

Prime is elder, but Megatron outgrew him. B-)

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:01 pm

Primes older. He's mature megs is just power hungrey and will do what ever it takes to get what he want's just like alot of younger siblings.

by **Raymond101** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:09 pm

Yeah, if that's the case, I find Prime even more admirable... it's quite a bother to have an upstart young brother and the reality is Megatron is physically stronger than Prime, but Prime more than makes up for that with his charisma, kindness, intelligence, etc.

not that I thought his plan to put the Allspark in himself was smart though. :p

by **darkqueen01** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:13 pm

I find the problem to be that they are brother, period. What an overused plot device.

But in the spirit of the thread..... hmm, why can't they just be twins with different personalities? Optimus just acts like the older, responsible sibling and Megatron the greedy sibling that wasn't hugged enough as a child. :o)

by **Nightracer GT** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:49 pm

They're not really brothers. It's called a figure of speech.

Prime called Megatron his brother because he was reaching out to him to end the fighting.

News Credits: 1 · by ***Galvatron*** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:56 pm

darkqueen01 wrote:I find the problem to be that they are brother, period. What an overused plot device.

But in the spirit of the thread..... hmm, why can't they just be twins with different personalities? Optimus just acts like the older, responsible sibling and Megatron the greedy sibling that wasn't hugged enough as a child.

Twins would mean that they look the same either with the same design and thus have the same abilities and twins are often thinking the same way, feel the same way and this was not the case obviously with prime and megatron.
Brother could have simply meant they were fellow cybertronians but then they'd all refer to each other as brothers so I tend to think brother might mean they had the same creator...I hope it turns out to be alpha trion...make megatron a little older, he was created first and did not turn out to nice, prime came second.

Just like on star trek the next generation, Lore was created first and Data second, Lore being the evil one for those that may not know.

by **nick3425** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:50 am

Megatrons Older, Because:A. He's Bigger And B:Younger sibblings are ussauly nicer.

by **Keeperofthespark** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:50 am

I'd say Prime is the oldest, when he said "you left me no choice brother." It sounded like he was the oldest of the two.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:13 am

Keeperofthespark wrote:I'd say Prime is the oldest, when he said "you left me no choice brother." It sounded like he was the oldest of the two.

Yet when Megs yelled, "You still fight for the weak!" he sounded like he was talking to a younger/inferior bot.

But I'm still not sure who's younger/older.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:40 pm

***Galvatron*** wrote:Twins would mean that they look the same either with the same design and thus have the same abilities and twins are often thinking the same way, feel the same way and this was not the case obviously with prime and megatron.

Why is that so????More then 3/4 of the twins born in the U.S. alone are fraternal twins aka non-Identical twins.

And being that father of Identical twin girls I can tell you that its a common misconception that twins tend to think the same things or feel the same way on subjects and more then other siblings that are close in age and are raised together.

While twins have more of a understanding about each other they are not always very alike in personality.

***Galvatron*** wrote:Just like on star trek the next generation, Lore was created first and Data second, Lore being the evil one for those that may not know.

While Lore was created befor Data was he was not the first created.

Dr.Noonien Soong created at least 1/2 a dozen other androids before creating Lore.

On of those was the one revealed in the last TNG movie called B4.

News Credits: 1 · by ***Galvatron*** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:35 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
***Galvatron*** wrote:Twins would mean that they look the same either with the same design and thus have the same abilities and twins are often thinking the same way, feel the same way and this was not the case obviously with prime and megatron.

Why is that so????More then 3/4 of the twins born in the U.S. alone are fraternal twins aka non-Identical twins.

And being that father of Identical twin girls I can tell you that its a common misconception that twins tend to think the same things or feel the same way on subjects and more then other siblings that are close in age and are raised together.

That applies to biological klingon children and genetically engineered ones then like yourself!

While twins have more of a understanding about each other they are not always very alike in personality.

***Galvatron*** wrote:Just like on star trek the next generation, Lore was created first and Data second, Lore being the evil one for those that may not know.

While Lore was created befor Data was he was not the first created.

I never said he was the first and only just created first THEN data came second.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:46 pm

***Galvatron*** wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
***Galvatron*** wrote:Twins would mean that they look the same either with the same design and thus have the same abilities and twins are often thinking the same way, feel the same way and this was not the case obviously with prime and megatron.

Why is that so????More then 3/4 of the twins born in the U.S. alone are fraternal twins aka non-Identical twins.

And being that father of Identical twin girls I can tell you that its a common misconception that twins tend to think the same things or feel the same way on subjects and more then other siblings that are close in age and are raised together.

That applies to biological klingon children and genetically engineered ones then like yourself!

While twins have more of a understanding about each other they are not always very alike in personality.

***Galvatron*** wrote:Just like on star trek the next generation, Lore was created first and Data second, Lore being the evil one for those that may not know.

While Lore was created befor Data was he was not the first created.

I never said he was the first and only just created first THEN data came second.

But Data was more like 7th not 2nd.

........ether way I was just messing with you.I know what you were trying to say.

News Credits: 1 · by ***Galvatron*** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:02 am

While Lore was created befor Data was he was not the first created.

I never said he was the first and only just created first THEN data came second.

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But Data was more like 7th not 2nd.

........ether way I was just messing with you.I know what you were trying to say.[/quote]

Ahh, I see, after a long day of helping to move a friends crap to his new place I'm rather tired...my responses to you meant the same of course. :-P

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:20 am

***Galvatron*** wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
***Galvatron*** wrote:While Lore was created befor Data was he was not the first created.

I never said he was the first and only just created first THEN data came second.

But Data was more like 7th not 2nd. ........ether way I was just messing with you.I know what you were trying to say.

Ahh, I see, after a long day of helping to move a friends crap to his new place I'm rather tired...my responses to you meant the same of course.

Go get some rest buddy.I did the same last week for a friend.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:51 am

Can we please get off this Star Trek talk and get back on topic?

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:02 am

Sabrblade wrote:Can we please get off this Star Trek talk and get back on topic?

You know what I find funny??????People that complain that others are straying off topic but dont make a effort to bring us back on topic.

If your so conserened about the topic....why didnt you offer up something on topic to talk about?????

Seems to me like your complaining just to complain.

It was only 4 post on the topic......lighten up a bit.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:28 am

Another possible piece of evidence that Prime is the younger bro is that in the prequel comic (and the "Beginnings" DVD) Prime refers to Megatron, even after his bretrayal, as "Lord" Megatron, suggesting a possible superiority of Megs over Prime. But even that is still vague.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:08 am

Sabrblade wrote:Another possible piece of evidence that Prime is the younger bro is that in the prequel comic (and the "Beginnings" DVD) Prime refers to Megatron, even after his bretrayal, as "Lord" Megatron, suggestion a possible superiority of Megs over Prime. But even that is still vague.

Interesting way to look at it........I wouldnt look at it that way but I can see your point.

by **Raymond101** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:28 pm

Well, in a separate thread someone suggested Prime is actually Optimus's title, much like Lord or Lord high Protector for Megatron. Prime means first, so that might be a clue to his being older.