The Energon Pub

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:29 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
ChocolateThunder wrote:OS, I'm going to play devil's advocate here with what you're saying about opening up all the alts during this time for testing. One thing I hope you will take into consideration are the very rare alts. I know you have to do what you feel is the most fair during this period of time but what about the guys that have the megatron alt which were given as a tournament prize long ago. Alts like that mean a lot to the players that have them and a lot of times they've suffered through a bad configuration for a whiel to hang onto it.

While I'm not sure what to do about this but I just wanted to throw that out there as something to kick around with the group behind the scenes.
Thanks.
CT
If someone could compile me a list of these alts (preferrably with images) I'll see what I can do.

Can we count the tie fighter as rare?

Didnt we get all out XP reset when speed and courage were adjusted a few years ago? I took 6 months off and returned to find all my team reset, but still with their alts. Cant we just do that again?

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:57 pm

Stat reset, not a xp reset.

It was done, if I recall, because there was a shake up in the weapons system.

Perhaps if you had a time frame of when the alt mode rotater will be back online OS it might help ease some worries?

News Credits: 1 · by **QuietStorm** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:00 pm

If it's been done before, it should be done again. Stat reset ONLY. Plain and simple. Unless the coding is too difficult.

And if that's the case, I wouldn't touch it. But then again, that's just me and what do I know?

Word.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:03 pm

QuietStorm wrote:If it's been done before, it should be done again. Stat reset ONLY. Plain and simple. Unless the coding is too difficult.

And if that's the case, I wouldn't touch it. But then again, that's just me and what do I know?

Word.

A stat reset would be easy to do on my end. Is that what everyone wants?

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:05 pm

Burn wrote:Stat reset, not a xp reset.

It was done, if I recall, because there was a shake up in the weapons system.

Perhaps if you had a time frame of when the alt mode rotater will be back online OS it might help ease some worries?

Cheers Burn, thats the one.

edit: can only speak for myself but that would be preferrable.

by **Black Guardian** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:13 pm

Infinitely preferable! I only have my liger, but there is no way in hell I want to lose that - it's very important to me.

by **devast8or** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:19 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:A stat reset would be easy to do on my end. Is that what everyone wants?

Sure, & while you're at it, how about hooking me up with a "gift" I previously inquired about?? :grin:

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:23 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:A stat reset would be easy to do on my end. Is that what everyone wants?

I'd prefer the alt mode rotater.

Otherwise you'd better reimburse me for the cost of armour installation!

Or, you know ... wave installation time for a week. :wink:

News Credits: 1 · by **Symbiote Spiderman14** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:24 pm

Burn wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:A stat reset would be easy to do on my end. Is that what everyone wants?

I'd prefer the alt mode rotater.

Same

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:24 pm

Burn wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:A stat reset would be easy to do on my end. Is that what everyone wants?

I'd prefer the alt mode rotater.

Otherwise you'd better reimburse me for the cost of armour installation!

Or, you know ... wave installation time for a week.

Would you like fries with that?

by **lkavadas** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:39 pm

I hope this isn't presumptuous, but would it be possible to share the ETA if the weapons balance?

It's by far the most sorely needed change at the moment.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:39 pm

lkavadas wrote:I hope this isn't presumptuous, but would it be possible to share the ETA if the weapons balance?

It's by far the most sorely needed change at the moment.

In around a couple of weeks.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:55 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:A stat reset would be easy to do on my end. Is that what everyone wants?

No thanks, I personally would rather keep as many of my builds as possible. When I fist started the game, I simply bough the most expensive weapon I could aford acording to set up and energon. I'd like to do that again once the weapons work properly. Only tfs I may wana reset are the ones who are currently brawlers. But again, if I can work my own way out of that, I'd be happyer.

I dont tend to note down my builds, and coming up with 12 new builds is NOT my idea of fun.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:01 pm

devast8or wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:A stat reset would be easy to do on my end. Is that what everyone wants?

Sure, & while you're at it, how about hooking me up with a "gift" I previously inquired about??

You mean the Wheel of Doom?

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:03 pm

Redimus wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:A stat reset would be easy to do on my end. Is that what everyone wants?

No thanks, I personally would rather keep as many of my builds as possible. When I fist started the game, I simply bough the most expensive weapon I could aford acording to set up and energon. I'd like to do that again once the weapons work properly. Only tfs I may wana reset are the ones who are currently brawlers. But again, if I can work my own way out of that, I'd be happyer.

I dont tend to note down my builds, and coming up with 12 new builds is NOT my idea of fun.

But all the weapons are being redesigned and the armory is being reset.
No matter how we do this, every weapon you have in your inventory is going to disappear when this is implemented.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:44 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Redimus wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:A stat reset would be easy to do on my end. Is that what everyone wants?

No thanks, I personally would rather keep as many of my builds as possible. When I fist started the game, I simply bough the most expensive weapon I could aford acording to set up and energon. I'd like to do that again once the weapons work properly. Only tfs I may wana reset are the ones who are currently brawlers. But again, if I can work my own way out of that, I'd be happyer.

I dont tend to note down my builds, and coming up with 12 new builds is NOT my idea of fun.
But all the weapons are being redesigned and the armory is being reset.
No matter how we do this, every weapon you have in your inventory is going to disappear when this is implemented.

I understand that. Im not against you removing all weapons and reimbersing. In fact that sounds very fair indeed. I just would like to kep my current set ups.
If they turn out ot suck, I'd like to find out on my own. It'll be easyer to adress on a tf by tf bases than having to give em all stats again in one go.

My point is entirly down to me being lazy and not wanting to rebuild my tfs. I have to give em new weapons, i know this, but I'd like them to otherwise stay the same.

Im all for all alts to be freely avialable for a couple of weeks incase I realise that my builds simply dont work anymore.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:39 pm

I understand where Redimus is coming from, it's a lot for everyone to have to rebuild their bots.

Personally I don't need to rebuild that many. However with a stat reset armour is going to have to be reinstalled as well.

That means 3-4 of my bots could be tied up for 20 hours or so while I install 10 tonnes of electrum.

I still think the alt mode rotater is the best way to go as it means if people want to reset, they can. If they don't want to, they don't have to.

Stat reset - affects all, can inconvenience a lot of people.
Alt mode rotater - affects all (and benefits the game), doesn't inconvenience anyone.

But I pose this question to everyone.

If you have a bot you can't reset because of the risk of losing the alt mode, can't you wait a couple of weeks for the alt mode rotater to be fixed?

News Credits: 3 · by **Archanubis** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:45 pm

Burn wrote:If you have a bot you can't reset because of the risk of losing the alt mode, can't you wait a couple of weeks for the alt mode rotater to be fixed?

Certainly. 7/12 of my team are resettable (with the current available alts), and I'd rather experiment with them than my unresettables.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:58 pm

Burn wrote:If you have a bot you can't reset because of the risk of losing the alt mode, can't you wait a couple of weeks for the alt mode rotater to be fixed?

Thank you Burn. That is the ultimate question.
Wouldn't you rather have weapons that work and expanded gameplay?
Your alts are not disappearing. When you see the new weapons system you are probably going to be resetting ALOT to play with all the new toys so a couple of weeks shouldn't make a big difference.

by **Rat Convoy** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:00 pm

It's not a big deal to wait a couple of weeks for the alt rotator. But having to repay for armor could be expensive for some of the poorer HMW players.

Also, an automatic reset isn't going to save most people's rare alts, unless you really think you can guess an ideal build right off the bat with the new weapons. Chances are, most of us will need to reset numerous times to work out what's good.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:02 pm

Burn wrote:I understand where Redimus is coming from, it's a lot for everyone to have to rebuild their bots.

Personally I don't need to rebuild that many. However with a stat reset armour is going to have to be reinstalled as well.

That means 3-4 of my bots could be tied up for 20 hours or so while I install 10 tonnes of electrum.

I still think the alt mode rotater is the best way to go as it means if people want to reset, they can. If they don't want to, they don't have to.

Stat reset - affects all, can inconvenience a lot of people.
Alt mode rotater - affects all (and benefits the game), doesn't inconvenience anyone.

But I pose this question to everyone.

If you have a bot you can't reset because of the risk of losing the alt mode, can't you wait a couple of weeks for the alt mode rotater to be fixed?

Also, everyone's in the same boat, I seriously doubt the new weapons system will suddenly render ANYBODY's build useless. They may have to change their direction, but if it is useless after the event, it was probably usless before.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:08 pm

Redimus wrote:Also, everyone's in the same boat, I seriously doubt the new weapons system will suddenly render ANYBODY's build useless. They may have to change their direction, but if it is useless after the event, it was probably usless before.

That's not entirely correct.
"Nuclear Knuckles" setups are going to result in a quick death under the new system. If you have a bot with 5 strength don't expect to beat bots in 3 hits anymore. Things are going to be much more realistic. A bot with 5 strength and his bare hands won't continue to beat a bot with a Rocket Launcher.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:15 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Redimus wrote:Also, everyone's in the same boat, I seriously doubt the new weapons system will suddenly render ANYBODY's build useless. They may have to change their direction, but if it is useless after the event, it was probably usless before.
That's not entirely correct.
"Nuclear Knuckles" setups are going to result in a quick death under the new system. If you have a bot with 5 strength don't expect to beat bots in 3 hits anymore. Things are going to be much more realistic. A bot with 5 strength and his bare hands won't continue to beat a bot with a Rocket Launcher.

I will probably give em a 0frp weapon until they earn the xp to get better ones then.

Seeing as all my brawlers have ram, it's not like they're suddenly gonna be attckless.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:18 pm

Redimus wrote:
I will probably give em a 0frp weapon until they earn the xp to get better ones then.

Seeing as all my brawlers have ram, it's not like they're suddenly gonna be attckless.

Yeah. Ram would be fine. i'm not messing with tactics at all.

by **Scantron** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:42 pm

Burn wrote:That means 3-4 of my bots could be tied up for 20 hours or so while I install 10 tonnes of electrum.

Tangentially related to this, but what about armor stocks if everyone has their stats reset and needs to reinstall their armor? The "armor-gathering" missions have vanished, so there's no way to replenish our stocks and, with everyone having to reinstall, it could burn through the stocks rapidly (especially the higher-level armors, which are a bit low to begin with).