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Question about Weapons

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:44 am

I have a bot that is Rank 6 in Firepower, however I don't seem to see any kind of damage change from his Ionic Displacer rifle than I do from his null ray rifle. Am I missing something here? I am trying to work on a good strafer
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Re: Question about Weapons

Postby Neo Crusader » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:30 am

_Anshin_ wrote:I have a bot that is Rank 6 in Firepower, however I don't seem to see any kind of damage change from his Ionic Displacer rifle than I do from his null ray rifle. Am I missing something here? I am trying to work on a good strafer


Not too sure here, but strength may help with weapon damage and fp with strafe and the ability to buy weapons (not necessarily affect the weapons damage). I could be wrong...
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Re: Question about Weapons

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:36 am

Thanks, I was going to say I noticed more damage being done in general from my rammers with 5+ str compared to my strafers with 5+ firepower. Perhaps I need to mix it up a bit with a Firepower/STR Combo to maximize my damage. Still trying to find a sweet spot for this bot.

I modeled him after talking to Bumblevivisector's bots who took the time to explain some of his builds to me. However where Bumblevivisector's cons will strafe on average 4 or 5 times a battle I am lucky to get one or two out. I know its the luck of the draw, but after putting him in for at least 3 times a day almost every day for the past month (so about 90 times) I am still way below average compared to other strafers my level that I am watching.

I find it weird that my damage output was lower than others so I figured I would give up trying to crunch numbers on my own and try to ask for some help.
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Re: Question about Weapons

Postby Name_Violation » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:14 pm

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Weapon: Multi-Function Sword
5 or more str does more damage unarmed than with weapons, unless the weapon needs a combination of 10 or more fpr and skill

str adds to all weapon damage.
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Re: Question about Weapons

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:20 pm

Thanks Name_Violation,

I have a question, which would theoretically do more damage?
A weapon say FPR (4) that is moderate to heavy with a strength multiplier of 4, or a flat strength of 6?

I was reading the formula on a post a few posts down about the (min/max) determinations of weapons and was just curious from your experience on how to properly balance it out. I figure since your the one usually destroying me in the battles that my higher bots enter I might as well learn what I am doing wrong.
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Re: Question about Weapons

Postby Name_Violation » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:07 pm

Motto: "It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue."
Weapon: Multi-Function Sword
The 6 str will deal better damage, the weapon user may occasionally hit a tad harder than the brawler on a lucky hit, but overall will average lower damage.

A 6 str bot with a weapon will average less damage than a 6 str bot with no weapon.

After you have a 5+ str the only weapons that deal better damage than brawling are the high stat pre-req ones.
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Re: Question about Weapons

Postby _Anshin_ » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:37 pm

Damn. I was afraid you were going to say that.

See I have been watching the different tactics and different builds, checking them out on how they do in the arenas, 2v2, 3v3, Hell levels and such.

I have noticed a few things, such as:
* Rammers tend to do the best in survival
* Strafers / Healers tend to garnish the largest payouts
* High Str = the most damage.

My Top characters that I have are on three different variations.
Ram
Ram / Avoid
Strafe

I have also watched some healers and noticed their success vs levels. However, the survivability of these characters is limited. For right now I am having to hold off on reformatting a few of my bots only because I am kind of fond of their alt modes and don't want to loose it.
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Re: Question about Weapons

Postby Redimus » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:20 pm

Motto: "Better than Michael Bay..."
Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
Strafers and Medics get the highest xp, but are the hardest to build, require more xp to start with and are incredibly easy to cock up spectacularly.
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