>
>
>

Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Discuss anything and everything related to the Transformers Live Action Films franchise, which are directed by Michael Bay. Join us to discuss the movies and stuff up to date with news for the 2017 release of Transformers 5. Check out our Live Action Film section here.

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:48 pm

Motto: "Can't do a job halfway. What's worth doing is worth doing well, I say."
Weapon: Saber Blade
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ze_little_one

Apparently, he's a Volvo Excavator, which would explain Megs' new treads.

Also see,
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scrapper_%28ROTF%29#Trivia
"When there's gold feathers, punch behind you!!"

Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
User avatar
Sabrblade
God Of Transformers
Posts: 39806
News Credits: 456
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:22 pm
Location: Tampa, FL
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 7
Endurance: 8
Rank: 9
Courage: 8
Firepower: 7
Skill: 9

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:33 pm

Motto: "Feel free to die when you've had enough."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
Editor wrote:They are living metal, that by their core functions are made to be able to convert from one style to another. Within that context when Megs was reactivated if the mode he choose (maybe from memory, maybe in a download from Scalpel) he just reform part of himself or the additional parts from the others to 'make' tank treads.

Sometimes the simplest of answers is the best to go with.

That works for me. It's weird most of these "plot holes" are caused by people over thinking and not seeing whats right in front of them.
Image
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
User avatar
Evil_the_Nub
Gestalt
Posts: 2262
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:47 am
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: ???
Courage: 9
Firepower: 3
Skill: 9

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby oldskooltf » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:12 pm

Weapon: Missile Launcher
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
Editor wrote:They are living metal, that by their core functions are made to be able to convert from one style to another. Within that context when Megs was reactivated if the mode he choose (maybe from memory, maybe in a download from Scalpel) he just reform part of himself or the additional parts from the others to 'make' tank treads.

Sometimes the simplest of answers is the best to go with.

That works for me. It's weird most of these "plot holes" are caused by people over thinking and not seeing whats right in front of them.



No, the "plot holes" are real questions that even my wife would ask me (and she's not a TF fan). Having said that, don't all hardcore fans of any franchise over-think things? :grin: 8) :lol:
Image
oldskooltf
Minibot
Posts: 184
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:48 pm
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 4
Endurance: 5
Rank: 7
Courage: 9
Firepower: 7
Skill: 9

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:01 am

Motto: "Feel free to die when you've had enough."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
oldskooltf wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:
Editor wrote:They are living metal, that by their core functions are made to be able to convert from one style to another. Within that context when Megs was reactivated if the mode he choose (maybe from memory, maybe in a download from Scalpel) he just reform part of himself or the additional parts from the others to 'make' tank treads.

Sometimes the simplest of answers is the best to go with.

That works for me. It's weird most of these "plot holes" are caused by people over thinking and not seeing whats right in front of them.



No, the "plot holes" are real questions that even my wife would ask me (and she's not a TF fan). Having said that, don't all hardcore fans of any franchise over-think things? :grin: 8) :lol:

Yeah like Kirk v. Picard, but all the plot holes I hear people complaining about are easily explained with the simplest answer.
Image
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
User avatar
Evil_the_Nub
Gestalt
Posts: 2262
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:47 am
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: ???
Courage: 9
Firepower: 3
Skill: 9

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby dragons » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:56 pm

bumblebees voice can be explaind in starscreamring of starscrea tpb movie prequel collection its in one of the movie prequels all i know im almost sure its in stracream series though surprised that wasnt mentioned, not sure if anyone else has didnt feeel like reading everything
Image
dragons
Gestalt
Posts: 2969
News Credits: 21
Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:28 pm

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:19 pm

Motto: "Feel free to die when you've had enough."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
dragons wrote:bumblebees voice can be explaind in starscreamring of starscrea tpb movie prequel collection its in one of the movie prequels all i know im almost sure its in stracream series though surprised that wasnt mentioned, not sure if anyone else has didnt feeel like reading everything

I never read that, but I just assumed his vocal processor wasn't at 100% functionality. It may have been easier to for him to just use the radio.
Image
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
User avatar
Evil_the_Nub
Gestalt
Posts: 2262
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:47 am
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: ???
Courage: 9
Firepower: 3
Skill: 9

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby Cobaltwick » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:53 am

Motto: ""I hit, you pick the wrecks, then I compute them.""
Weapon: Acid Rainmaker Rifles
EHM.

1- Why is Optimus "born" a Prime? What differences?
2- How are Primes generated in the very first place? After the BIG SEVEN, of course...
3- Reproduction anyone?
4- Megatron "brother" of Optimus?

I'm utterly confused.
"I hit, you pick the wrecks, then I compute them." - Cobaltwick.

"I'm not just an Autobot. I'm just a pretty much Autobot." - Cobaltwick.
Cobaltwick
Mini-Con
Posts: 24
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:10 pm
Location: Naples
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 10+
Speed: 9
Endurance: 6
Rank: 4
Courage: 8
Firepower: 7
Skill: 9

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby shadowynne » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:20 pm

Weapon: Energy Blades
i was wondering if anyone can explain this plot hole with a simple explanation...

sir we have FIVE contacts moving towards nbe1...

kill zee little one...

sir we have SIX contacts heading to the surface...

so lets see 5-1+1=6?

i just dont get it...
shadowynne
Micromaster
Posts: 80
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:08 am
Location: UK
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 8
Speed: 3
Endurance: 9
Courage: 6
Firepower: 5
Skill: 10

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:21 pm

Motto: "Feel free to die when you've had enough."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
shadowynne wrote:i was wondering if anyone can explain this plot hole with a simple explanation...

sir we have FIVE contacts moving towards nbe1...

kill zee little one...

sir we have SIX contacts heading to the surface...

so lets see 5-1+1=6?

i just dont get it...

They were probably picking up Scalpel too, he was in Ravage on the way down.
Image
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
User avatar
Evil_the_Nub
Gestalt
Posts: 2262
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:47 am
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: ???
Courage: 9
Firepower: 3
Skill: 9

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby shadowynne » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:35 pm

Weapon: Energy Blades
hmmmmmm.... when they show the cons re surfasing it is six large forms, and on the sonar all 6 look pretty equal in size, scalpel sure throws up one hell of a sonar shadow, plus he doesnt look like the fastest swimmer... but sure ill give you that, i recon its just a plain old continuity fault, plus i dont think bay bothers himself with details...
shadowynne
Micromaster
Posts: 80
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:08 am
Location: UK
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 8
Speed: 3
Endurance: 9
Courage: 6
Firepower: 5
Skill: 10

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby shadowynne » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:52 pm

Weapon: Energy Blades
on a completely seperate note, dear god, evil the nub your sig pic sends me into fits of snikkering every time i see it (reminds me of the pic of a cat in a bell jar with the caption "i has a force field" if you havnt seen it heres a link...

http://www.mopo.ca/2007/06/i-has-force- ... ot-ur.html

also your avatar pic is awesome whats it from? is it yours? its very zim! do you have a full pic of the character?

oh and to haul this post back on topic, although i frikken HATE the psychotic bloodthirsty murderising rendition of prime in rotf, the excuse i placate myself with is he was revived by a super weapon energy source and "upgraded" with decepticon parts, jetfire was a decepticon, even if he switched sides he still revelled in destroying his foes and was built for combat... where as prime was built for more utilitarian purposes...
shadowynne
Micromaster
Posts: 80
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:08 am
Location: UK
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 8
Speed: 3
Endurance: 9
Courage: 6
Firepower: 5
Skill: 10

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:02 pm

Motto: "Feel free to die when you've had enough."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
My avatar is Richard from the Looking for Group comic, here's the page http://www.lfgcomic.com.
Image
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
User avatar
Evil_the_Nub
Gestalt
Posts: 2262
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:47 am
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 8
Endurance: 7
Rank: ???
Courage: 9
Firepower: 3
Skill: 9

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby oldskooltf » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:30 am

Weapon: Missile Launcher
Cobaltwick wrote:
4- Megatron "brother" of Optimus?



I considered "brother" to be more like a really close friend. That's just my take on it.

I believe (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) that one of the prequel comics to TF1 said "Lord Megatron" and Optimus Prime together were leaders of Cybertron. Megatron went power-hungry, so to speak (due to the influence from The Fallen, I believe in one of those comics [Defiance?] before TF:RotF), and the rest is history.
Image
oldskooltf
Minibot
Posts: 184
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:48 pm
Strength: 6
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 4
Endurance: 5
Rank: 7
Courage: 9
Firepower: 7
Skill: 9

Re: Revenge of the Fallen plot holes explained

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:14 am

Motto: "Can't do a job halfway. What's worth doing is worth doing well, I say."
Weapon: Saber Blade
oldskooltf wrote:
Cobaltwick wrote:
4- Megatron "brother" of Optimus?



I considered "brother" to be more like a really close friend. That's just my take on it.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Relatives#Possible_explanations

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Relatives#Notable_siblings

:-B
"When there's gold feathers, punch behind you!!"

Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
User avatar
Sabrblade
God Of Transformers
Posts: 39806
News Credits: 456
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:22 pm
Location: Tampa, FL
Strength: 7
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 7
Endurance: 8
Rank: 9
Courage: 8
Firepower: 7
Skill: 9

Previous

Return to Transformers Live Action Film Forum

Patreon
Charge Our Energon Reserves. Join the Seibertron Elite.
Support SEIBERTRON™