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for those of you who dont know RIBFIR stands for "rumble is blue frenzy is red", and likewise FIBRIR stands for "frenzy is blue rumble is red". this is a question thats been around since the very early days of transformers.

the original cartoon said rumble is the blue one, but the toys and bios said frenzy was the blue one. the original cartoon "bible" that transformers was all based off said rumble is the red one, and because it was based of the bible, all the comics have gone with rumble as being red.

i grew up with the cartoon, and rumble played a big part in it, so to me hes always the blue one, i can read the marvel and dreamwave comics a hundred times but to me the cartoon is always going to be the final reference, at least as far as this goes.

so the question is whos who? in your mind which one is which?

the question that divided the forums into RIBFIRBots and FIBRIRCons

Sons of Soundwave, what have you unleashed!

Says it all really...

I can't find any tech specs for these two frogs.