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william-james88 wrote:As far as being "shocked" it's the price tag that surprises me. For $50 I expect better, and I'm saying that as a parent.
Yes, hasbro is being misleading with that description, 100%.
I'm a parent too, but I'm not shocked at all since we just got this same type of stuff in Cyberverse and the Bumblebee movie line before it, and the RID line before that one, all at the same price, do you remember those?
Yes. Yes it is.Dr. Caelus wrote:Also, is it really too much to ask that we get a Bumblebee that turns into a bee?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yes. Yes it is.Dr. Caelus wrote:Also, is it really too much to ask that we get a Bumblebee that turns into a bee?
Because of trademark reasons. If he were to turn into an actual bumblebee, then the name "Bumblebee" could be interpreted as a non-trademarkable descriptor rather than a trademarkable proper name.
Sabrblade wrote:Yes. Yes it is.Dr. Caelus wrote:Also, is it really too much to ask that we get a Bumblebee that turns into a bee?
Because of trademark reasons. If he were to turn into an actual bumblebee, then the name "Bumblebee" could be interpreted as a non-trademarkable descriptor rather than a trademarkable proper name.
Cheap and easy custom idea: Just find a Bumblebee bot head that fits on Kingdom Waspinator/Buzzsaw (both of which are plentiful and clearance priced, in my neck of the woods at least), then apply black Sharpie to any purple or green parts you don't like, and viola!Dr. Caelus wrote:Also, is it really too much to ask that we get a Bumblebee that turns into a bee?
noctorro wrote:Wow, a lot looks really sweet!
The new Core class movie dudes and the Battlemasters look very cool! And I'm 37.
I hope they drop a new trailer soon, can't wait to see more. I hope this movie does well and the toys.
Love the fact they are redoing the armor thing. That Arcee looks great!
It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
84everfan wrote:Or are you angry because you think these figures take away spots on the shelf and resources to make other pieces for more grown up fans?
I do agree that kids are dumber, but having simpler toys has very little to do with it. It's the result, not the cause. The cause is the decline of the education system from bottom to top, in the US at least.
YES, but it doesn't have to continue! I'm sick of everytime I go somewhere to buy something all that's left is bad gimmick toys that're just upscaled McDonald's toys. It's corrupt. And it might NOT be the cause of kids being stupid but they're ENABLING it. I remember when figures used to be simple.
You had Leaders, Voyagers, and deluxe for the current show, then the movie that was out at the time. Every show had an Optimus that looked at least similar to what you saw on screen, now every show Optimus is oversized gimmicky ass. Where's the Voyager Class CyberVerse Optimus? There wasn't one! They were all either oversized gimmick toys or deluxes. Why is Optimus a deluxe? It's not a difficult concept to make consistent. I saw a Spider-Verse toy for the new Spider-Verse movie that was a static, unposeable figure that had a spinning Gatling gun if you pushed on the leg. That's McDonald's ****, and it was like 9 inches tall and costed like $15.
It's oversaturating the market with garbage that will end up in a thrift shop or Ollie's. And Transformers is no different. Things won't change unless Hasbro makes them change. And to all the users criticising me for caring, how is that helping? Telling me to touch grass like a basement monkey is gonna help toys not suck? If you don't care then don't reply.
Emerje wrote:Say what you want, but has it really never occurred to you that Hasbro continues to make these toys because they sell? The reason why these things keep ending up at places like Ross, TJMaxx and Ollie's yet Hasbro keeps making them movie after movie, cartoon after cartoon is because that's the stuff that's left over after they and the retailers have already turned a nice profit on them. If Walmart or Target said, hey, these don't sell, stop making them, they would. Since they're still making them that should tell you that they're making money off them. No amount of your complaining is going to change anything, Hasbro lets the money talk.
Emerje
Dr. Caelus wrote:Emerje wrote:Say what you want, but has it really never occurred to you that Hasbro continues to make these toys because they sell? The reason why these things keep ending up at places like Ross, TJMaxx and Ollie's yet Hasbro keeps making them movie after movie, cartoon after cartoon is because that's the stuff that's left over after they and the retailers have already turned a nice profit on them. If Walmart or Target said, hey, these don't sell, stop making them, they would. Since they're still making them that should tell you that they're making money off them. No amount of your complaining is going to change anything, Hasbro lets the money talk.
Emerje
Every time a kid can't find a Hasbro toy they want on the shelf, and opts to spend their money on something else, Hasbro is missing a sell. When all is said and done, there should always be some little bit of the stock that ends up on clearance or at a discount store, especially for the kid-oriented lines.
Emerje wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Emerje wrote:Say what you want, but has it really never occurred to you that Hasbro continues to make these toys because they sell? The reason why these things keep ending up at places like Ross, TJMaxx and Ollie's yet Hasbro keeps making them movie after movie, cartoon after cartoon is because that's the stuff that's left over after they and the retailers have already turned a nice profit on them. If Walmart or Target said, hey, these don't sell, stop making them, they would. Since they're still making them that should tell you that they're making money off them. No amount of your complaining is going to change anything, Hasbro lets the money talk.
Emerje
Every time a kid can't find a Hasbro toy they want on the shelf, and opts to spend their money on something else, Hasbro is missing a sell. When all is said and done, there should always be some little bit of the stock that ends up on clearance or at a discount store, especially for the kid-oriented lines.
Hasbro owns something like 50% of the action figure aisle and three of the biggest brands in it (Star Wars, Marvel and Transformers). Chances are whatever they're buying instead is still one of their toys so I don't think they're that concerned. But that's also why they hedge their bets on multiple figures of popular characters like Prime and Bumblebee.
Emerje
griftimus prime wrote:they blew it with some of these like the crocodile. because all he does is turn into a weapon. and none of these weapons or armors looks good
Dr. Caelus wrote:Like I said, if they can't find a HASBRO toy then Hasbro has a problem.
Dr. Caelus wrote:william-james88 wrote:As far as being "shocked" it's the price tag that surprises me. For $50 I expect better, and I'm saying that as a parent.
Yes, hasbro is being misleading with that description, 100%.
I'm a parent too, but I'm not shocked at all since we just got this same type of stuff in Cyberverse and the Bumblebee movie line before it, and the RID line before that one, all at the same price, do you remember those?
No, my son is only just getting old enough for it to matter, so I hadn't paid attention to that bracket before. Still, most of those older toys look way better than this most recent offering. Maybe not super-poseable or intricate but they *look* good. Slick. Polished. Given kiddo's main love is Hot Wheels, that would be enough.
griftimus prime wrote:because all he does is turn into a weapon.
william-james88 wrote:
noctorro wrote:It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
Brokebot wrote:noctorro wrote:It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
Somehow, I doubt it. Most of that will likely be in a discount bin or an Ollie's at less than half it's original price.
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Brokebot wrote:noctorro wrote:It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
Somehow, I doubt it. Most of that will likely be in a discount bin or an Ollie's at less than half it's original price.
And you know this how?Most liquidators I've seen don't carry that much, really, and even then only later waves.
For the record, if they sell, obviously people and kids are enjoying them. So let them.
transformers_va wrote:These look... awful. Hasbro's stock is tanking, they're laying off employees, and *these* are what they're producing?Wonder how long these are going to be peg/shelf-warming...
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Brokebot wrote:noctorro wrote:It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
Somehow, I doubt it. Most of that will likely be in a discount bin or an Ollie's at less than half it's original price.
And you know this how?Most liquidators I've seen don't carry that much, really, and even then only later waves.
Cry-babies? Hahahaha get a life... look, I've been a collector for about 40 years now, and have close to 4,500 Transformers... if you can say the same, or even close to, I might listen to your opinion about these, but I get the feeling you can't. If you think these ROTB toys are good, you might want to look into go-bots instead, because Transformers are more than you deserve.AcademyofDrX wrote:transformers_va wrote:These look... awful. Hasbro's stock is tanking, they're laying off employees, and *these* are what they're producing?Wonder how long these are going to be peg/shelf-warming...
This is a really good call-out, because I read an investor note with a "sell" recommendation, and they specifically said they were negative because fansite crybabies don't like the looks of Hasbro's kids' media tie-in products. You should have a CNBC show, I can recommend a production contact if you're interested.
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