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Lunatic Prime wrote:Why would anybody expect an Ultimate class figure to be a good Leader class one? I mean on the one hand why wouldn't they just call it Leader class if it is one and on the other hand we will be getting a Studio Series Leader class figure of RotB Optimus Primal this year. So it doesn't make sense to release two. It's very likely that it'll even be revealed next Tuesday. And when I hear Ultimate (class) I think of something like TF Prime Beast Hunters Ultimate class Beast Fire Predaking. Definitely a gimmick toy. Here's a list of all of the Ultimate (/Supreme) class figures there've been so far: http://www.transformers-universe.com/in ... gebnis.php (just set "Class" to "Ultimate (Supreme")
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The closest ones to Leader class are DotM Optimus Prime and maybe BM Air Attack Optimus Primal.
Yup, you mention excellent examples.
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I was excited for this one. But the size kind of threw me off. Then the simplicity. I have 2 of the weaponizers one. They are great in their own right. This one, I don't know.
Giant Purple Griffin wrote:It's an Optimus Primal. There's only so much you can do with a Gorilla that becomes a Gorilla-ish robot. They're all simple.
Especially the ROTB one, where the bot and beast are almost identical to each-other. We are pretty far from the Beast Wars cartoon.
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Giant Purple Griffin wrote:It's an Optimus Primal. There's only so much you can do with a Gorilla that becomes a Gorilla-ish robot. They're all simple.
The MP release begs to differ. Takara really did an impressive job recreating the sleek and curvy shape of both modes but cramming in everything they could to make both modes appear as accurate as possible. And man, they really go all out with that transformation, having the back rotate 180, and having the back of the robot shins become the beast thighs. Plus providing the proper functioning so that he can be both bipedal and walk on all 4s in beast mode.
We've seen other pretty cool transformations for Primal, like some of the Beast Machines toys and the 10th anniversary one that's a completely new mold and look. Optimus Primal can be as simple or as complex as they want him to be, just like Optimus Prime.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Especially the ROTB one, where the bot and beast are almost identical to each-other. We are pretty far from the Beast Wars cartoon.
While my post above was for Primal in general, yes the ROTB one is tougher to add complexity since his on screen transformation is just building on top of the gorilla. Like him turning inside out in a way:
BUT Still, the toys we've gotten themselves show that complexity can vary. The Weaponizer goes with the complete chest inside out flip, like this Ultimate one, while the voyager has a superposition approach. So instead of 1 piece moving, you have 3 (tripling the complexity for that step right there). The feet are another good way to assess where steps are being cut. For the weapinizer, it's just rotating them, but for the voyager you have the robot feet completely dissapearing in robot mode, folding into the gorilla shins. This ultimate toy doesn't have that and instead just has you flip the robot feet present in beast mode and you just flip them down for robot mode.
We'll get a leader class studio series one as well and I do expect it to be more complex than either of the ones we've gotten thus far.
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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet
I've been really curious about those, but was worried they wouldn't look as good as the stock photos when assembled, but those look great! But am I seeing screw holes and pins? Are these partially assembled?
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Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet
I've been really curious about those, but was worried they wouldn't look as good as the stock photos when assembled, but those look great! But am I seeing screw holes and pins? Are these partially assembled?
Emerje
there are some screws and pins. These come somewhat assembled, like 3 torso portions, 4 parts per limb, etc. They are 10 minute kits to assembled, but that helps with how solid they are, no small parts to just fly away
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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet
I've been really curious about those, but was worried they wouldn't look as good as the stock photos when assembled, but those look great! But am I seeing screw holes and pins? Are these partially assembled?
Emerje
I was curious too and went for it. $50 CAD shipped didn't seem bad.
And while they do look good, they are indeed model kits and not full blown action figures. So the plastic feels light, and the figure is very gappy. You don't see it in the images, but it's full of holes everywhere.
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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet
I've been really curious about those, but was worried they wouldn't look as good as the stock photos when assembled, but those look great! But am I seeing screw holes and pins? Are these partially assembled?
Emerje
there are some screws and pins. These come somewhat assembled, like 3 torso portions, 4 parts per limb, etc. They are 10 minute kits to assembled, but that helps with how solid they are, no small parts to just fly away
william-james88 wrote:I was curious too and went for it. $50 CAD shipped didn't seem bad.
And while they do look good, they are indeed model kits and not full blown action figures. So the plastic feels light, and the figure is very gappy. You don't see it in the images, but it's full of holes everywhere.
Thanks, guys! That's very intriguing. I got a good sense of the gaps in some of D-Max's other pics, I can see that Primal's legs can be looked through from the side and that doesn't bother me. Maybe I'll grab Primal if BBTS takes pre-orders again.
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With how the movie has been doing, do you think we'll see the next wave of Beast Alliance? It's hard already to find what's supposed to be out.
Now, this is all heresy since I can't confirm anything, so take out the big bottle of Himalayan sea salt, Target apparently is pulling listings for the Core line. Now they're saying the figures will be released later in the year under a "Kid Friendly" Studio Series line.
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I got the Flex Changer Nightbird, and she is interesting. I wasn't sure on this gimmick, but it seems interesting enough. the price for her is not worth it honestly, but she's a neat novelty. And i think i only need to get a smash changer to have one of all of the RotB gimmicks
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Okaaaay now I did choose to pick up deluxe Studio Series 100 or as I call call him Stinger and NOT Bee after I saw a review. And being someone that cares for none of the movies and have very few movie figures I think this is a fine figure. I feel the figure is solid all around and I enjoyed the transformation process.
I'm as picky as the next person but I don't share the flaws that the majority seem to have with this NOT Bee. I feel that his box cutter blade and not so impressive blaster could have been improved....other than that a fine figure....'nuff said!
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I found the Smash Changers Rhinox yesterday, and picked him up. He's my first Smash Changer. He is actually super cool. For his smash changing, you actually have to ram his head to activate the robot legs, and then do the last 2 smashes on the robot feet to get to bot mode. Using the rhino head to start the conversion is super fun.
He is fun! and I like the Rhino mode a lot. This feels nicely in scale.
Also, just because, I made a list of the 11 RotB figures I still want to get that I have not gotten yet. They are below Rhinox:
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chuckdawg1999 wrote:So, do we think we'll see the Wave 2 Weaponizers, the Optimus Prime and Scourge Beast armor figures, and Battle Changer Scourge at retail if at all?
I think they'll happen, but they'll probably be hard to find and mostly show up at discount stores.
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