Knives wrote:I did not say there was no way the bot modes could be imbalanced. I am simply advocating trying them out without stat. restrictions first, so we can be sure. And really, the bot modes are already restricted by the lvl. xp caps. And at about 3-4 points into the bot mode the xp required to lvl. it gets prohibitive even for a lvl. three. Is a third restriction really necessary? That is the question I want answered, and we will not get that answer by jamming this change into the game before we have a chance to see it in action in V2.0.
a third restriction is necassary becuase;
1.it only take's slightly more than 3million exp to max out bot modes which at high levels is nothing and the effects of bot modes are more than worth it, some bot modes, the one giving you two +50% bonuses are particualarily attractive since it starts getting multiplacative bonuses(much like strafe)
2. the xp caps are uncompataible with a balanced stat system, and are a result of how broken the current stat system is, they do not relflect at all the actual effectiveness of any particular config.
Knives wrote:And I will not keep silent about something just because some big name on the boards, even someone involved in the game development, tells me it is a certain way. I am a firm advocate of free expression even if you sometimes wish you could throttle the other guy. That is why I am not dissmissing Tammuz's claims outright and trying to shout him out. All I want is a test run, nothing more. If the bot modes umbalance things that far, then you can bet your energon stash I will be for implimenting the change. Heaven knows I have been victim of game exploiters here often enough. I just want to make sure that choice is not unnecessarily restricted.
what restrictions are you talking about?!
the only restriction we're suggesting is that shouldn't be allowed to build a bot that beats the crap out of a bot of the same level, whether i configured it to be awesome or you configured it to be one of your fan characters! we're restricting it so that levels 1s can't beat the snot of level 3s, so that my level 6s can't go toe to toe against sprokitz level 8s
you want pure numbers?
lets take Burn's level 8s
Nurse Erica's weekly earnings - 2,374,540xp
Dead Reckoning's - 1,315,557xp
Dead Reckoning has the better weapons(gatling gun > battle blades) and 3 times as much xp, however his bot mode only boosts his strength, where as erica's boosts both her intel and here endurance, both have had approximately the same playtime.
+100% xp per week for what equates to 5 little upgrades more
now do you actually doubt that having 5-10 more points would improve your bot in battle?
hell if you've got 10 points in recon bot mode you'll never miss an opponet with an identical configuration sans bot mode, and they'll only hit you 50% of the time, with action masters that gives you twice the longevity in battle.
