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The pull ring is for the weapon it might spin out and in or pop out and make lights and sounds so well find out

hmmmmm so much comes to mind here:
Positive: Nice, accurate chest, weapons, head, arms, face and facemask, always loving a removable face mask. Paint app seems good, but its probably photoshop version. Seems decently poseable, nice car mode, missle launchers on car are cool.

Negative: Pull-ring to activate features?? EPIC FAIL. Not that I have anything against Woody, but that's such a lame gimmick. At least blend it into the figure somehow. And what's coming out of the canon anyways? Stupid. Lights and nonsensical sound? Never liked it really, but I understand it's for the little ones. A leader class BB? Unless we have some kind of leader con or super supreme Optimus, what's the point? We already have ultimate BB.

Neutral: 6 levels of conversion? Interesting...New box? Interesting....

DCybertron wrote:Ugh. Makes me wanna buy a gun and shoot all of them.

This completely crosses the line.

If it is a retool of HA BB, I might be interested (though not for a $60 price tag)

I like the HA BB, but this has a lot better limb designs.

If it is oversized, ala the giant spin & whirl TFA Optimus, I have no interest.

If this is $60, I'll have to revisit my comment saying I'll probably end up picking it up.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a huge fake. The mold looks nothing like a Hasbro leader style plastic or quality. I can't believe that Hasbro would put that dumb ring on Bumblebee in the first place. Plus, the packaging is entirely way out there. Nothing we have even glimpsed. Maybe a prototype from the first movie. The only other item I can make out is the conversion level. We have always had 1 through 4. 0 to 5 doesn't make sense.

viperpilot wrote:Am I the only one who thinks this is a huge fake. The mold looks nothing like a Hasbro leader style plastic or quality. I can't believe that Hasbro would put that dumb ring on Bumblebee in the first place. Plus, the packaging is entirely way out there. Nothing we have even glimpsed. Maybe a prototype from the first movie. The only other item I can make out is the conversion level. We have always had 1 through 4. 0 to 5 doesn't make sense.

No i stated earlier that it looked like a PowerBot on crack. Since it's not April yet I believe sadly it is real.

viperpilot wrote:Am I the only one who thinks this is a huge fake. The mold looks nothing like a Hasbro leader style plastic or quality. I can't believe that Hasbro would put that dumb ring on Bumblebee in the first place. Plus, the packaging is entirely way out there. Nothing we have even glimpsed. Maybe a prototype from the first movie. The only other item I can make out is the conversion level. We have always had 1 through 4. 0 to 5 doesn't make sense.

I said it wasn't 'Leader Class'. Back when we had the testshot for this, Hasbro e-mailed us asking us to pull it off the site. This is real.

Overcracker wrote:
Seriously More Megatrons and Primes? Put together, they aren't more than the BB's.

All toy lines combined, yes. I mean, look at the Star Wars ****. How many versions of Luke Skywalker do they really need? Yet they will get new ones until the end of days and it's still the same character from the same movies. That's just how things work, I don't know why fans even bother complaining. Rationality is your friend.

Pascal wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Seriously More Megatrons and Primes? Put together, they aren't more than the BB's.

All toy lines combined, yes. I mean, look at the Star Wars ****. How many versions of Luke Skywalker do they really need? Yet they will get new ones until the end of days and it's still the same character from the same movies. That's just how things work, I don't know why fans even bother complaining. Rationality is your friend.

Seriously? You are comparing 25 years of Transformers brand to six or 7 months of Movie line?

Yes Hasbro does the same thing for Star Wars, does that mean its o.k? No. Will they stop doing it? Not likely. But that does not mean we can't complain about it.

one more time -- Do you think the guns will fold down under the hood or behind the windshield somehow?? No one else is curious about this? whether u like him or not?

vectorA3 wrote:one more time -- Do you think the guns will fold down under the hood or behind the windshield somehow?? No one else is curious about this? whether u like him or not?

The guns will stow away. If you look at the car mode picture closely you can see the panels under the guns that fill in the rest of the hood area. I would say that the guns go into the cabin instead of under the hood by the design.

Forgotten wrote:

vectorA3 wrote:one more time -- Do you think the guns will fold down under the hood or behind the windshield somehow?? No one else is curious about this? whether u like him or not?

The guns will stow away. If you look at the car mode picture closely you can see the panels under the guns that fill in the rest of the hood area. I would say that the guns go into the cabin instead of under the hood by the design.

After studying the car mode pic, I think you're absolutely right. That is the biggest concern of mine right now. Otherwise, I think I like it.

Good god im tired of getting stung by Bumblebee let some meat get grinded by Grindor or the lights off by Blackout he definitly needs a leader class, hasbro pleases bring him out cause we are all tired Bumblebee!!

Mkall wrote:

DCybertron wrote:Ugh. Makes me wanna buy a gun and shoot all of them.

This completely crosses the line.

Indeed.

In fact, warning issued for that comment.

As much as I do <3 4chan...this isn't it.

I don't want to swear for the sake of the kids reading this but really - Bumblebee AGAIN! He's not even a very prominent character in the second movie after the first half hour. I don't recall the part where two big plastic unrealistic looking block shaped guns where permanently grafted onto his bonnet either! lol. Plus - I may be missing the point here but I don't seem to recall bumblebee being a 'leader' of any kind and the scale is just ridiculous.

BIG BIG HUGE thumbs down on this . . . . . overflogged 'thing'.

Scale pending, of course, its a bag of mixed reviews. Take away the shoulder guns, the electronics and ring gimmick thing, and replace the blasted cannon arm with a true right arm and you might possibly would have the best BB figure out there. Definitly the most movie accurate figure for sure, minus the previously mentioned stuff. But, yet again Hasbro refuses to get it right. I'm sure that the shoulder guns are removable and are probably a non issue but the cannon arm makes the figure look gimpy and thusly ruins another figure for me. If they would remedy all of the things in my first sentence, I guarantee that I would buy this figure, especially if the battle mask was retractable.

Forgotten wrote:

vectorA3 wrote:one more time -- Do you think the guns will fold down under the hood or behind the windshield somehow?? No one else is curious about this? whether u like him or not?

The guns will stow away. If you look at the car mode picture closely you can see the panels under the guns that fill in the rest of the hood area. I would say that the guns go into the cabin instead of under the hood by the design.

that's what i thought, just wasn't sure. Thx for the reply.

And I agree, a LC Blackout should be made. (if not him, then Grindor) If made properly -he'd be taller than Megatron and Prime. And then we can finally make sick dioramas (forest fight) once LC SS comes out. This is a no-brainer for Hasbro since their favorite thing to do is make repaints.

Oh jeez.... so now we get an updated pic and I'm still less than impressed. I like Bumblebee, but this thing looks like one of those goofy electronic toys that blows bubbles. You know the one, that dips the ring into the solution and lifts it and a stream of air comes out of the "mouth" and makes bubbles.

Anyway, something constructive: It seems to be lacking in the leg area, although the general mold is nice. And that ring just really gets to me. And wtf is that blue thing on the gun, is that supposed to be his hand or what?

It does look *nice* but I hope it's scaled enough to match the price that's likely to end up slapped on it.

doomseer wrote:Plus - I may be missing the point here but I don't seem to recall bumblebee being a 'leader' of any kind and the scale is just ridiculous.

Leader class is just a class, as is Voyager, Ultimate, Scout, and Legend. Brawl was released in Leader class but was never a leader. Starscream, while harboring delusions of leadership, was never a leader either. Nor was Jetfire.

Leader class I'd like to see? Obviously Starscream (thank you for that much Hasbro), Ironhide, Blackout/Grindor, Ratchet (Jazz but they'll never do him after movie one >_> )... Maybe Bonecrusher, maybe Sideways, maybe Sideswipe. No offense, but not Bumblebee. There's way too many of them.