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GetterDragun wrote:

Sportimus Prime wrote:

Seibertron wrote:So am I a scalper for my buddy Paul and I buying 8 of the 12 Starscreams last Friday? I don't think the guy's doing anything wrong. If anything, he's hurting himself because there's no way he'll get top dollar for all of those on eBay. He has too many.

No, you're both greedy, which is almost as bad. But that's just my opinion. Hey, you asked.

The a$$hole seller is doing a lot of wrong. Not legally wrong, but morally wrong. Bad Karma wrong. He'll be selling those one at a time for $18 a piece, twice the retail price. That's price gouging. He's a scumbag. Every time I see a kid and his mom or pop at a Target or TRU staring disappointedly at bare pegs and shelves, it is because of greedy dirtbags like that guy who played a significant role in that. Toys are for kids first, period.

Can you show me where it says in the store "Limit 1 per customer"?

Some Targets in Chicago have that sign. Some don't.

GetterDragun wrote:

Sportimus Prime wrote:

Seibertron wrote:So am I a scalper for my buddy Paul and I buying 8 of the 12 Starscreams last Friday? I don't think the guy's doing anything wrong. If anything, he's hurting himself because there's no way he'll get top dollar for all of those on eBay. He has too many.

No, you're both greedy, which is almost as bad. But that's just my opinion. Hey, you asked.

The a$$hole seller is doing a lot of wrong. Not legally wrong, but morally wrong. Bad Karma wrong. He'll be selling those one at a time for $18 a piece, twice the retail price. That's price gouging. He's a scumbag. Every time I see a kid and his mom or pop at a Target or TRU staring disappointedly at bare pegs and shelves, it is because of greedy dirtbags like that guy who played a significant role in that. Toys are for kids first, period.

Can you show me where it says in the store "Limit 1 per customer"?

Can you show me where it says it's okay to be greedy and buy everything up. It is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it. You don't have to agree.

Has anyone here seen tons of G1 Target Exclusives Jazz on the pegs? I sure haven't. Those scalpers didn't get those figures for free, so Hasbro will obviously be making money. That isn't the issue. But it seems no one gives a **** about ethics and morals anymore. I don't know why I bother. The worlds gone to hell with folks having the "Me first" mentality anyway.

GetterDragun wrote:

Bumblethumper wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:EDIT: I went to Target one time, they pulled out a case of assorted figures and when I offered to buy the entire case, I was turned down. I asked why and she said "Everyone has to be given a fair chance to buy these. We have collector rules in effect because of that." I said I'd be buying one of each figure by buying the case and that it'd be the same if I just pulled 'em right off the pegs. She said "Then do that. I can't sell you the case because one of the figures has two of the same toy in here. We're not allowed to sell multiples to one person, especially collectors. We can only sell one of each figure to you at a time. If you want to make several trips, we can't stop you." I bought what I could after she put them on the pegs and I walked away pissed off.

So there's more to this story than we're getting. Either you have one of the sh*ttiest run Targets, or the idea of making a major sale let their greed get in the way.

Either way, it's ridiculous and they should practice what they preach. AT ALL STORES.

Well technically they have the stock, they're in the business to sell the stuff, and if someone wants to buy it, why shouldn't they sell it to them? It's a very fast turnover for the store. It's also good business for Hasbro and Transformers in general, because it helps them to shift stock, and it also means that, years down the line you stand a better chance of still being able to get a figure MISB.

Don't forget the scalpers are also taking on a risk. They don't know that Hasbro's not about to ramp up production and flood the market with the figure they just bought a whole case of. The same figure could wind up at a substantial discount, and the scalper would be stuck with unsellable stock.

Well said. Plus some people want multiple figures to dispaly one loose and one MISB.

And some people just want to jump on a good thing when they see it. I knew it was a hot brand new figure and I'm tired of hearing everyone complain about not getting figures so I thought I'd take advantage of the situation, get some figures in the hands of Seibertronians, and make a little money at the same time. It's the good ol' American way. Mind you, that's the first time that I've done that in at least 5 years, but it felt kind of good to buy a figure and have it get paid for by selling the others. That's not being a scalper. That's being a smart collector.

Sportimus Prime wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:

Sportimus Prime wrote:

Seibertron wrote:So am I a scalper for my buddy Paul and I buying 8 of the 12 Starscreams last Friday? I don't think the guy's doing anything wrong. If anything, he's hurting himself because there's no way he'll get top dollar for all of those on eBay. He has too many.

No, you're both greedy, which is almost as bad. But that's just my opinion. Hey, you asked.

The a$$hole seller is doing a lot of wrong. Not legally wrong, but morally wrong. Bad Karma wrong. He'll be selling those one at a time for $18 a piece, twice the retail price. That's price gouging. He's a scumbag. Every time I see a kid and his mom or pop at a Target or TRU staring disappointedly at bare pegs and shelves, it is because of greedy dirtbags like that guy who played a significant role in that. Toys are for kids first, period.

Can you show me where it says in the store "Limit 1 per customer"?

Can you show me where it says it's okay to be greedy and buy everything up. It is my opinion, and I'm entitled to it. You don't have to agree.

Has anyone here seen tons of G1 Target Exclusives Jazz on the pegs? I sure haven't. Those scalpers didn't get those figures for free, so Hasbro will obviously be making money. That isn't the issue. But it seems no one gives a **** about ethics and morals anymore. I don't know why I bother. The worlds gone to hell with folks having the "Me first" mentality anyway.

Yeah, that same Target had at least 8 on the shelves. Have you looked up the DCPI number and called any of the Targets in your area or are you just going to stores looking for figures on shelves?

Seibertron wrote:Yeah, that same Target had at least 8 on the shelves. Have you looked up the DCPI number and called any of the Targets in your area or are you just going to stores looking for figures on shelves?

Just because YOUR Target has them, does not mean EVERY Target has them. All the Targets in my area have not had a Voyager or Deluxe in over a month, going on two now. And NONE of my Targets will look in the back room for any. Whether it is on the phone, or in person, it's always the same answers "I don't know. We can't look in the back, sorry. Don't know when we'll get more. Try back in a couple days maybe."

Hey guys I think it sucks too. Just don't buy them from these people. They will be left with a bunch of figures they either can't sell right away or will have to sell for less than cost. I personally don't like the idea of advocating doing this, but hey it's not my site...
I was pretty upset that I wasn't able to get an Alt rodimus because they sold out so quick. Thing is I know there are people who got more than 1 and pretty much went straight to ebay with at least 1 of them. I still do not have one.
Just don't support them if you don't like it, I don't.

Sportimus Prime wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Yeah, that same Target had at least 8 on the shelves. Have you looked up the DCPI number and called any of the Targets in your area or are you just going to stores looking for figures on shelves?

Just because YOUR Target has them, does not mean EVERY Target has them. All the Targets in my area have not had a Voyager or Deluxe in over a month, going on two now. And NONE of my Targets will look in the back room for any. Whether it is on the phone, or in person, it's always the same answers "I don't know. We can't look in the back, sorry. Don't know when we'll get more. Try back in a couple days maybe."

Are you calling with DCPI numbers or are you asking them to see if a grey Starscream is on the shelves? When I call, I just say "hey, I was wondering if something is in stock. I have a DCPI number for you to run for me." That's it. They don't even know it's a Transformer until they've looked it up.

I don't mean to frustrate you guys with these conversations. In fact, I want to help give you guys advice on you can find figures even during these incredible low-stock times. The only figures I'm missing right now from the movie line are Thundercracker, G1 Ratchet, Dropkick and Barricade redeco. I think once I get those 4 figures, I'll have the entire movie line. I want to help you guys figure out how to do that. Hell, I don't even have a working car at the moment (benefits of living in a big city with buses and trains) so I have to do my shopping the smart way or else I've just wasted an entire day by taking the busses to the various stores that sell Transformers around Chicago.

Do you use the toy sightings section?

Collector Maximus wrote:Hey guys I think it sucks too. Just don't buy them from these people. They will be left with a bunch of figures they either can't sell right away or will have to sell for less than cost. I personally don't like the idea of advocating doing this, but hey it's not my site...

You're totally right.

I was pretty upset that I wasn't able to get an Alt rodimus because they sold out so quick. Thing is I know there are people who got more than 1 and pretty much went straight to ebay with at least 1 of them. I still do not have one.
Just don't support them if you don't like it, I don't.

Oh they sold out SUPER QUICK! I was there too. Yikes. I don't either. I have one because I Pre-ordered from BBTS. Not something I normally do though. It's kind of frustrating though with what is supposed to be mainstream toys that you're essentially left without an option. Don't buy from ebay scalpers is a good recommendation. But then, there is no alternative either because they've hoarded them. That, and Target has a bad habbit of not ordering enough, or whatever their policy is, and Hasbro is messing up with poor production and/or distribution. A combination of those things, plus whatever else I have missed equals to folks who just want to get a little piece of transforming plastic and be on their merry way out in the cold.

Please, guys, if you all don't like scalpers, then don't support them or buy anything from them out of compulsion or any silly excuses.
Sometimes, I found it very ironic. Many people here dislike scalpers yet I read in this forum that some had bought from these scalpers. Example: 2008 Bumblebee. It is very funny indeed! Then these people who bought from scalpers began to said excuses like they were saving on gas and time. That they were under forced circumstances. Yeah, right.
Personally, I don't give a chance to scalpers. Unless they are selling half the retail price, MISB.

If you guys want to screw the scalpers' asses, do it properly. Unless you like to kiss their asses, then it is a different thing.

Collector Maximus wrote:Hey guys I think it sucks too. Just don't buy them from these people. They will be left with a bunch of figures they either can't sell right away or will have to sell for less than cost. I personally don't like the idea of advocating doing this, but hey it's not my site...
I was pretty upset that I wasn't able to get an Alt rodimus because they sold out so quick. Thing is I know there are people who got more than 1 and pretty much went straight to ebay with at least 1 of them. I still do not have one.
Just don't support them if you don't like it, I don't.

Just for the record, I'm not advocating anything. I have two goals that I'm trying to push with you guys who are hunting for toys right now:

1) Disspell the whole "scalper" myth. Scalpers aren't what's keeping you from getting figures. Which leads me to my next point ...

2) There are some things us more experienced toy hunters can help you guys with. I'd rather have you guys asking us for help instead of going around yelling "scalpers! scalpers! scalpers!" every time you can't find a figure and you see some guy with 10 of them on eBay. There is a method to the madness ... we'd like to help you guys figure out what we've already figured out when it comes to toy hunting.

Seibertron wrote:Are you calling with DCPI numbers or are you asking them to see if a grey Starscream is on the shelves? When I call, I just say "hey, I was wondering if something is in stock. I have a DCPI number for you to run for me." That's it. They don't even know it's a Transformer until they've looked it up.

My Targets will NOT check at all. Period. Nada, zilch. They even put up little notices on the bare pegs.

I don't mean to frustrate you guys with these conversations. In fact, I want to help give you guys advice on you can find figures even during these incredible low-stock times.

I sincerely appreciate that. Thank you.

The only figures I'm missing right now from the movie line are Thundercracker, G1 Ratchet, Dropkick and Barricade redeco. I think once I get those 4 figures, I'll have the entire movie line.

We're both people of good taste.

I want to help you guys figure out how to do that. Hell, I don't even have a working car at the moment (benefits of living in a big city with buses and trains) so I have to do my shopping the smart way or else I've just wasted an entire day by taking the busses to the various stores that sell Transformers around Chicago.

Do you use the toy sightings section?

I hope you get a your car in perfect working order soon. I used to have to do the same to go to school and work. It's no fun.

Yes, but it is pointless since by the time I would get there, they're all gone. But there has been nothing new for weeks. I got lucky with finding a Ti Scourge by accident. But places like TRU, Wal Mart, are not easy for me to run down to. I call, but they don't speak well enough english to really understand. they're willing, thouse TRU and Wal Mart employees, but I'm never successful with them.

ironhide001 wrote:Please, guys, if you all don't like scalpers, then don't support them or buy anything from them out of compulsion or any silly excuses.
Sometimes, I found it very ironic. Many people here dislike scalpers yet I read in this forum that some had bought from these scalpers. Example: 2008 Bumblebee. It is very funny indeed! Then these people who bought from scalpers began to said excuses like they were saving on gas and time. That they were under forced circumstances. Yeah, right.

I have bought many items from these so-called "scalpers" on ebay. I am very grateful for the people who do this. If I can't find a figure in the store right away, I'd rather spend the $5 to $15 extra on a figure on eBay to make my life easier. My time is more valuable than going around hunting toy stores all day on a Saturday. Yes, I know part of the fun is the hunt. But there comes a point when you're just killing time ... I would personally rather not do that. I'd rather throw the guy some extra money on eBay that bought a few extras because he found some in his area. He helps me out. I help him out.

I guess the biggest myth that I want to disspell is that you can't find a figure because of the scalpers - I guarantee that we can help you find figures easier if you guys will just ask for some advice from us experienced toy collectors.

Sportimus Prime wrote:My Targets will NOT check at all. Period. Nada, zilch. They even put up little notices on the bare pegs.

I still don't believe that they won't check. I'm almost tempted to call your Target store with a DCPI number to see if I can get them to check for you. I just don't believe that they won't check. I guess if someone won't check, I'd ask to speak to the store manager. Are you asking for the toy department or are you just asking the person who answers the phone. There's a way around it ... I bet you if you posted the information for your Target, one of us could figure out how to get the information for you.

So do you use the toy sightings section?

Sportimus Prime wrote:I hope you get a your car in perfect working order soon. I used to have to do the same to go to school and work. It's no fun.

Well, I live in Chicago. I actually prefer not driving. That's why when my car started giving me trouble in May '06, I just said "f it" and started taking the bus and trains. The busses are everywhere here and they generally run every 5 to 10 minutes so it's not a big deal here in Chicago. Plus we have a website called transitchicago.com that let's you put in your starting address and your destination address and it will tell you what bus at what time you have to take to get there. It makes life very easy. Plus I don't have to drive around in crazy Chicago traffic.

Sportimus Prime wrote:Yes, but it is pointless since by the time I would get there, they're all gone.

You gotta find someone at that store that will hold figures for you. Every store I've ever asked if they'd hold something for me always says "yes". Even when I was back in Michigan. I don't mean to sound like I'm insinuating anything here, but are you being nice to the employees or are you getting pissed off at them on the phone because they aren't being helpful. You kind of have to kiss their ass and sweet talk them. There is a method to the madness.

Sportimus Prime wrote:But there has been nothing new for weeks. I got lucky with finding a Ti Scourge by accident. But places like TRU, Wal Mart, are not easy for me to run down to. I call, but they don't speak well enough english to really understand. they're willing, thouse TRU and Wal Mart employees, but I'm never successful with them.

How far away do you live from those stores? Have you found out what days your TRU gets shipments in? They should have a set schedule, unlike Walmart and Target which can get shipments any day of the week. I think the TRU by me gets shipments in on Tuesdays and Friday nights. They must also get some kind of a shipment on Saturdays because they always put the new Wii stock out on Sunday morning. It seems like if they got it in with the Friday shipment that the new Transformers always come in that they would put the new Wiis out on Saturday morning.

Seibertron wrote:

Sportimus Prime wrote:My Targets will NOT check at all. Period. Nada, zilch. They even put up little notices on the bare pegs.

I still don't believe that they won't check. I'm almost tempted to call your Target store with a DCPI number to see if I can get them to check for you. I just don't believe that they won't check. I guess if someone won't check, I'd ask to speak to the store manager. Are you asking for the toy department or are you just asking the person who answers the phone. There's a way around it ... I bet you if you posted the information for your Target, one of us could figure out how to get the information for you.

By all means. Call any Target down the Peninsula of the Bay Area from San Francisco to San Jose. That is my range limit.

Well, I live in Chicago. I actually prefer not driving. That's why when my car started giving me trouble in May '06, I just said "f it" and started taking the bus and trains. The busses are everywhere here and they generally run every 5 to 10 minutes so it's not a big deal here in Chicago. Plus we have a website called transitchicago.com that let's you put in your starting address and your destination address and it will tell you what bus at what time you have to take to get there. It makes life very easy. Plus I don't have to drive around in crazy Chicago traffic.

I live in San Francisco, and traffic is a pain here too. So I can relate. Public transportation here is even worse though.

You gotta find someone at that store that will hold figures for you. Every store I've ever asked if they'd hold something for me always says "yes". Even when I was back in Michigan. I don't mean to sound like I'm insinuating anything here, but are you being nice to the employees or are you getting pissed off at them on the phone because they aren't being helpful. You kind of have to kiss their ass and sweet talk them. There is a method to the madness.

Had no luck with that either. Maybe I simply live in the wrong part of the country. Every time I go out of state, people seem nicer.

How far away do you live from those stores? Have you found out what days your TRU gets shipments in? They should have a set schedule, unlike Walmart and Target which can get shipments any day of the week. I think the TRU by me gets shipments in on Tuesdays and Friday nights. They must also get some kind of a shipment on Saturdays because they always put the new Wii stock out on Sunday morning. It seems like if they got it in with the Friday shipment that the new Transformers always come in that they would put the new Wiis out on Saturday morning.

Mine are not that regular in their shipments. I've asked many times. They just say that they will be getting something in on such and such day, and when I get there, or call, they're either sold out, or didn't get what I was lookig for. I'm talking about TRU. Wal Mart I need to lear Spanish still. Nearest Target is about 20-25 minutes away for me. TRU is farther. Wal Mart even more so.

Wow this is lame. Really takes the fun out of collecting. Jazz is an exclusive so he's already going to be hard to get, but thanks to that ebay guy who is in my area, and coincidentally seibs who is also buying figures by the case, I'll probably never see a g1 jazz or starscream. Oh well, I hate Target anyway.

Hold on. If each target is only going to be getting 8 figures (i really highly doubt it) then how in the hell does this douche have 18? I thought they werent even out yet? I have a friend that works in target and he checks every shipment for me and there hasnt been a TF shipment in a few weeks.

tacogrande wrote:Wow this is lame. Really takes the fun out of collecting. Jazz is an exclusive so he's already going to be hard to get, but thanks to that ebay guy who is in my area, and coincidentally seibs who is also buying figures by the case, I'll probably never see a g1 jazz or starscream. Oh well, I hate Target anyway.

Why g1 repaints? They are just repaints, nothing special to me.

I live in San Francisco, and traffic is a pain here too. So I can relate. Public transportation here is even worse though.

Dude I worked in the city four two years and it sucked. I even feel worse because of Muni.


Mine are not that regular in their shipments. I've asked many times. They just say that they will be getting something in on such and such day, and when I get there, or call, they're either sold out, or didn't get what I was lookig for. I'm talking about TRU. Wal Mart I need to lear Spanish still. Nearest Target is about 20-25 minutes away for me. TRU is farther. Wal Mart even more so.

I also feel for you here. For the people that don't know San Francisco is not a Wal Mart friendly store, they despise the store. I live in the east bay and in about a 10-15 mile radius I have 2 targets 2 walmarts and a toysrus.

Sportimus Prime wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Sportimus Prime wrote:My Targets will NOT check at all. Period. Nada, zilch. They even put up little notices on the bare pegs.

I still don't believe that they won't check. I'm almost tempted to call your Target store with a DCPI number to see if I can get them to check for you. I just don't believe that they won't check. I guess if someone won't check, I'd ask to speak to the store manager. Are you asking for the toy department or are you just asking the person who answers the phone. There's a way around it ... I bet you if you posted the information for your Target, one of us could figure out how to get the information for you.

By all means. Call any Target down the Peninsula of the Bay Area from San Francisco to San Jose. That is my range limit.

Well, I live in Chicago. I actually prefer not driving. That's why when my car started giving me trouble in May '06, I just said "f it" and started taking the bus and trains. The busses are everywhere here and they generally run every 5 to 10 minutes so it's not a big deal here in Chicago. Plus we have a website called transitchicago.com that let's you put in your starting address and your destination address and it will tell you what bus at what time you have to take to get there. It makes life very easy. Plus I don't have to drive around in crazy Chicago traffic.

I live in San Francisco, and traffic is a pain here too. So I can relate. Public transportation here is even worse though.

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You gotta find someone at that store that will hold figures for you. Every store I've ever asked if they'd hold something for me always says "yes". Even when I was back in Michigan. I don't mean to sound like I'm insinuating anything here, but are you being nice to the employees or are you getting pissed off at them on the phone because they aren't being helpful. You kind of have to kiss their ass and sweet talk them. There is a method to the madness.

Had no luck with that either. Maybe I simply live in the wrong part of the country. Every time I go out of state, people seem nicer.

How far away do you live from those stores? Have you found out what days your TRU gets shipments in? They should have a set schedule, unlike Walmart and Target which can get shipments any day of the week. I think the TRU by me gets shipments in on Tuesdays and Friday nights. They must also get some kind of a shipment on Saturdays because they always put the new Wii stock out on Sunday morning. It seems like if they got it in with the Friday shipment that the new Transformers always come in that they would put the new Wiis out on Saturday morning.

Mine are not that regular in their shipments. I've asked many times. They just say that they will be getting something in on such and such day, and when I get there, or call, they're either sold out, or didn't get what I was lookig for. I'm talking about TRU. Wal Mart I need to lear Spanish still. Nearest Target is about 20-25 minutes away for me. TRU is farther. Wal Mart even more so.

Seibertron wrote:

Collector Maximus wrote:Hey guys I think it sucks too. Just don't buy them from these people. They will be left with a bunch of figures they either can't sell right away or will have to sell for less than cost. I personally don't like the idea of advocating doing this, but hey it's not my site...
I was pretty upset that I wasn't able to get an Alt rodimus because they sold out so quick. Thing is I know there are people who got more than 1 and pretty much went straight to ebay with at least 1 of them. I still do not have one.
Just don't support them if you don't like it, I don't.

Just for the record, I'm not advocating anything. I have two goals that I'm trying to push with you guys who are hunting for toys right now:

1) Disspell the whole "scalper" myth. Scalpers aren't what's keeping you from getting figures. Which leads me to my next point ...

2) There are some things us more experienced toy hunters can help you guys with. I'd rather have you guys asking us for help instead of going around yelling "scalpers! scalpers! scalpers!" every time you can't find a figure and you see some guy with 10 of them on eBay. There is a method to the madness ... we'd like to help you guys figure out what we've already figured out when it comes to toy hunting.

Sorry, I just don't see how buying multiples of the same figure, and selling them at a mark-up, is helping collectors on this site get the figures. Am I missing something here?
You can give out all the information about sightings, stock numbers, dcpi numbers, etc, without buying the figures to sell at a higher cost. That, I think, would be more help in teaching people about finding the toys. Besides there may in fact be people on here who can't afford the extra 5-15 bucks to buy from people on ebay.
And please tell me what you "more experienced" toy hunters know that we don't?
I consider myself a VERY experienced toy hunter. The best info I think I can give to people here on seibertron is to avoid those that sell figures on ebay for a mark-up. And instead maybe try and buy an extra figure when I see one, and sell it at cost + shipping, when and if I can, to someone here on seibertron. Is that wrong?

I saw an Arcee and a dreadwing today, but didn't pick them up cause I already have them.
If anyone wants one or both of these figures I'll see if I can get them. I would gladly sell them to someone here at as close to cost as possible plus shipping.
I have offered this before, but it is not something I can do regularly, but would be willing to do every now and then. In fact I think most of us here would probably be able to do this. If we all started buying as many figures as we could get our hands on, and selling them for 5-15 bucks more, tell me, who would we be helping?
Sorry, I just don't see it.

I have to say I am pretty surprised to hear that the owner of a Transformers site partakes in the kind of thing most collectors cant stand, scalping.

I can see buying 2 or even 3 of any given bot, but two cases?
There is no logic behind that other than to sell them at a profit, therefore denying a kid, or parent, or collector who doesnt want to support aftermarket price gouging.

Your advice from an "experienced collector" has a patronizing tone, I own over 600 bots, am I some kind of novice collector? No, I call with product #s, I belong to sighting forums in my area, I do everything I can to get the bots I want, but there is a line between getting what you want for your collection, and profiting on the average person who may not have time to call TRU with product codes.

The argument that scalpers dont exist is ridiculous, the link in this thread proved that they do. It is one thing to sell a discontinued bot on ebay, but grabbing up cases of a current wave and then playing them off as rare, so they sell at a profit is a poopy thing to do.

Sure it "feels good" to have your TF collection pay for itself, but you are gouging people that should be able to collect without staking out a walmart at 9 am.

The movie has brought this kind of crap to a new level, I certainly dont enjoy knowing that Seibertron's owner is adding to this nonsense. Regardless of Hasbro and their shortage, a person buying two dozen of one figure so they can sell all but one of them cheapens the whole collecting experience for everyone.

I always like to use the word scalpers just to get under some members skin (closet scalpers) Honestly though, when you break it down he is maybe profiting $10-15 per figure (after fees), so $180 min for 18 repaint jazz. He has to sell and ship 18- thats alot of work for $180. Do you honestly think he is going to charge what he payed, when he has to cover fees and any losses. Many of the buyers on ebay are a PITA- and he has 18 to deal with. I personally dont pay over MSRP, unless its my only choice, the alternative is patience. Many of the hardcore collectors are unloading TFs like crazy. Why is this? The market is great for it right now. Who can blame them? I'm tired of the scalper whining as well, but I am also sickened by what some members post as deals, especially when it seems that it may benefit them or somehow help to raise the market price on an item they currently own. So, Seibs -Im with you on you can buy whatever you want, but kinda get sick of the BBTS and action-hq so called deals. People forget in their little search for TFs that hasbro views us as $$$$, not feelings- and its not to say they dont care, but its business.

Collector Maximus wrote:If we all started buying as many figures as we could get our hands on, and selling them for 5-15 bucks more, tell me, who would we be helping?
Sorry, I just don't see it.

Neither do I, I think we posted this same point at the same time. People doing this are only helping one person, themselves, and at the cost of others to boot.

However the site owner justifies it, buying two cases of redeco screamer and then selling them at a markup is SCALPING.

Just like people do for concert tickets, sports tickets etc etc.

No upside to the collectors community.

all this debate over not finding a toy.....its the same with everything suply nd demand happened with the xbox,ps3,wii blah blah blah its just like that for all popular things if ppl decide to buy more than one we have no way of stopping it so dont complain and b smart next wave of tf's u be out a hour before target opens and wait and then ull get wat u want

Wow, there were 10 jazz's and 8 SS when i got mine plus extras