Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Opinions, man. We're not gonna "find out" that we share your opinion. If we still like him, we still like him. If we don't, we don't.Hotrodimust wrote:I can't believe so many people think bruticus is a nice looking combiner. Wait till you have him in hand to see what a disappointment he really is
Noideaforaname wrote:The people who are getting G2 Bruticus have several months to put their expectations at a realistic level. Plus, they're spending a LOT less money and going through a LOT less hassle, so there's much less of that "this had better be worth it" feeling.
orangeitis wrote:Opinions, man. We're not gonna "find out" that we share your opinion. If we still like him, we still like him. If we don't, we don't.Hotrodimust wrote:I can't believe so many people think bruticus is a nice looking combiner. Wait till you have him in hand to see what a disappointment he really is
Aside from any unpredictable QC issues, I'm fairly certain that not only will he be my collection's centerpiece, but he'll also be my favorite of all. Well, the G2 version at least.
If you don't want yours, I'll be happy to buy it off ya...
First of all, it's irrelavent whether I own them or not. I'm still capable of deciding whether or not I want a figure without actually owning it. Secondly, I own all Energon-style 5-bot combiners without 3rd-party add-ons. Yes, they're great, and no, I wouldn't want to shell out tons of money on the 3rd-party upgrades on them, nor do I think they're in any way better than FoC Bruticus with or without upgrades.Hotrodimust wrote:orangeitis wrote:Opinions, man. We're not gonna "find out" that we share your opinion. If we still like him, we still like him. If we don't, we don't.Hotrodimust wrote:I can't believe so many people think bruticus is a nice looking combiner. Wait till you have him in hand to see what a disappointment he really is
Aside from any unpredictable QC issues, I'm fairly certain that not only will he be my collection's centerpiece, but he'll also be my favorite of all. Well, the G2 version at least.
If you don't want yours, I'll be happy to buy it off ya...
I guess if you don't own any 3rd party combiners or the rotf bruticus with FP kits or with out.
Well those are your opinions. Opinions which I disagree with for the most part.Hotrodimust wrote:He looks like a great combiner compaired to a g1 combiner unless you have 3rd party kits on your g1 combiner. The individual robots are nice but they are still very light feeling like the FOC prime,jazz and shockwave. But besides that they look nice but in combined mode not so much his arms are to long his hands look bad and the connection points show to much. Why is one point purple and the other black. Also the idea of being able to swap limbs anywhere is cool but not when you lose articulation.
Ruination IS a totally different combiner. Maybe not in the sense that it uses 95% of the same molding as FoC Bruticus, but they're different characters and IMO, have a sufficient amount of molding/color to call them different.Hotrodimust wrote:And then hasbro puts a different head on him moves the arms around and calls it a totally different combiner and people are happy.
That's your opinion. But for my collection, FoC G2 Bruticus will be a centerpiece.Hotrodimust wrote:And this version of brut is nowhere near being centerpiece material unless you have no other combiners or MP figures.
lol, no thanks then.Hotrodimust wrote:And I am actually thinking about selling him but if I do I want exactly what I paid for him because he's MISB I played with my friends before I opened mine
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Hotrodimust wrote:Lol ok and I'm not trying to change your opinion about this waste of plastic. I just like a higher quality figure I guess some people are happy with what ever they get. And as far as deciding of its a bad figure b4 buying it I don't do that anymore because I've liked figure more once in hand and that's why I bought him just in case but he is what he looks like an over size pcc. The actual box is better than the figure IMO
Well if someone, say, don't care how much articulation something has, that the action features and/or aesthetics are more important for the figure to them, then it'll be easy to judge a toy before they have it in-hand. Plus, a lot of us aren't the 'buy-then-decikde-to-resell-or-not' type.Hotrodimust wrote:Lol ok and I'm not trying to change your opinion about this waste of plastic. I just like a higher quality figure I guess some people are happy with what ever they get. And as far as deciding of its a bad figure b4 buying it I don't do that anymore because I've liked figure more once in hand and that's why I bought him just in case but he is what he looks like an over size pcc. The actual box is better than the figure IMO
Seibertron wrote:Hotrodimust wrote:Lol ok and I'm not trying to change your opinion about this waste of plastic. I just like a higher quality figure I guess some people are happy with what ever they get. And as far as deciding of its a bad figure b4 buying it I don't do that anymore because I've liked figure more once in hand and that's why I bought him just in case but he is what he looks like an over size pcc. The actual box is better than the figure IMO
Please drop it. I'm tired of the 3rd party guys raining on the parade of people who like the official Transformers toys. This is enough of the 3rd party fans trolling topics about the official Transformers toys.
Cyberseven wrote:I for one only purchase licensed TF's. I do not purchase 3rd party anything. It is not because I do not think that some of the 3rd party figures are sweet, I do, but it is because I like keeping my collection 3rd party free.
Now as far as G2 Bruticus goes, and SDCC Bruticus, and the retail version, IMO, no this is not a perfect toy, and maybe isn't going to meet all of my expectations, but it's a fricken toy, and I like it and I want it, and I will have it.
Still waiting for my SDCC2012 Bruticus to ship from HTS.com. Once I have him in hand I will decide if he is enough for my FOC set, or if I will cancel my pre-order for G2 version.
orangeitis wrote:Well if someone, say, don't care how much articulation something has, that the action features and/or aesthetics are more important for the figure to them, then it'll be easy to judge a toy before they have it in-hand. Plus, a lot of us aren't the 'buy-then-decikde-to-resell-or-not' type.Hotrodimust wrote:Lol ok and I'm not trying to change your opinion about this waste of plastic. I just like a higher quality figure I guess some people are happy with what ever they get. And as far as deciding of its a bad figure b4 buying it I don't do that anymore because I've liked figure more once in hand and that's why I bought him just in case but he is what he looks like an over size pcc. The actual box is better than the figure IMO
Besides, some of us take in enough information before they decide to buy it without touching the figure first. Examining each and every picture that comes out of it, taking notes on reviews, etc. For instance, I personally studied FoC Bruticus so much, I was able to predict that it's Blast-Off arm could collapse to look more normalish, plus I guessed the ability for Bruticus to attach Onslaught's weapon to his back to simulate his trademark back guns.
And IJS, I think Hercules and other 3rd-party combiners are wastes of plastic, but I rarely tell that to people because it's just my opinion. =)
The_Bot_In_The_Tux wrote:orangeitis wrote:Well if someone, say, don't care how much articulation something has, that the action features and/or aesthetics are more important for the figure to them, then it'll be easy to judge a toy before they have it in-hand. Plus, a lot of us aren't the 'buy-then-decikde-to-resell-or-not' type.Hotrodimust wrote:Lol ok and I'm not trying to change your opinion about this waste of plastic. I just like a higher quality figure I guess some people are happy with what ever they get. And as far as deciding of its a bad figure b4 buying it I don't do that anymore because I've liked figure more once in hand and that's why I bought him just in case but he is what he looks like an over size pcc. The actual box is better than the figure IMO
Besides, some of us take in enough information before they decide to buy it without touching the figure first. Examining each and every picture that comes out of it, taking notes on reviews, etc. For instance, I personally studied FoC Bruticus so much, I was able to predict that it's Blast-Off arm could collapse to look more normalish, plus I guessed the ability for Bruticus to attach Onslaught's weapon to his back to simulate his trademark back guns.
And IJS, I think Hercules and other 3rd-party combiners are wastes of plastic, but I rarely tell that to people because it's just my opinion. =)
Have you ever considered how thoroughly condescending and annoying you sound? It's quite ironic, you warble on about opinions, yet there's no shortage forthcoming from your fingertips. Please be quiet. It's perfectly acceptable for others to have a say in a matter and not be subject to your verbal barrage, that you so thoroughly enjoy sharing with us.
njb902 wrote:lets see on the one hand you have a $600 dollar 3rd party, and on the other a $60 dollar hasbro/takara......which one again is a waste of plastic?
Actually, njb902 didn't say anything about not being able to afford the $600 figure(at least not in the post you quoted). There's a huge difference in not being able to afford something expensive versus not thinking the toy is worth the expense. Maybe one would even rather have 5 Bruticuses(Brutici?) than one Hercules... who knows?Counterpunch wrote:njb902 wrote:lets see on the one hand you have a $600 dollar 3rd party, and on the other a $60 dollar hasbro/takara......which one again is a waste of plastic?
This argument does not make sense to me.
Is cost a component in objectively evaluating the quality of a figure?
I mean, of course it's something to consider but no one puts a BMW next to a Kia and calls the BMW a piece of garbage because they can't afford it.
But that also can be debated. There is more to consider than amount of articulation, size, transformation, or number of parts being used. We must also consider that Hasbro has many other aspects to their toy engineering that limit what they can and can't practically make. The main and IMO most obvious one is that Hasbro isn't aiming for adult collectors, they're aiming at kids. That does not necessarily include the detail they put on the figure, but the aesthetics of the figure, the pricing, and the safety of the toy.Counterpunch wrote:Perhaps the price makes one figure a better suit for a particular buyer but there is zero, absolutely zero question that the recent 3rd party combiners are better combining robot figures than FoC Bruticus in any color scheme when considering engineering.
If it's going to be an honest discussion at least keep it in the realm of reasonable
Counterpunch wrote:njb902 wrote:lets see on the one hand you have a $600 dollar 3rd party, and on the other a $60 dollar hasbro/takara......which one again is a waste of plastic?
This argument does not make sense to me.
Is cost a component in objectively evaluating the quality of a figure?
I mean, of course it's something to consider but no one puts a BMW next to a Kia and calls the BMW a piece of garbage because they can't afford it.
Perhaps the price makes one figure a better suit for a particular buyer but there is zero, absolutely zero question that the recent 3rd party combiners are better combining robot figures than FoC Bruticus in any color scheme when considering engineering.
If it's going to be an honest discussion at least keep it in the realm of reasonable.
orangeitis wrote:::snip::
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