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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby robotrik » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:44 pm

Ultra Magnus wrote:In the heat of battle, Optimus Prime exhibited the qualities of a true leader. Strategic thinking, determination, and above all, loyalty. Something you could learn a thing or two about, Sentinel Prime.


I thought he said that OP showed royalty and not loyalty... i mean, it's obvious he is loyal but to mention someone is "royal" would mean he thinks even more of OP then we know.
does that make any sense ?
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Tekka » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:50 pm

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Ultra Magnus wrote:In the heat of battle, Optimus Prime exhibited the qualities of a true leader. Strategic thinking, determination, and above all, loyalty. Something you could learn a thing or two about, Sentinel Prime.


I thought he said that OP showed royalty and not loyalty... i mean, it's obvious he is loyal but to mention someone is "royal" would mean he thinks even more of OP then we know.
does that make any sense ?
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby General Zerex » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:10 pm

I just double checked and UM says "Loyalty".
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Ragnorok64 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:28 pm

How does someone show "royalty" :?

Though here's a thought,if "Prime" is a designation of rank does that mean we could have Rodimus Prime show up?
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Stormwolf » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:41 pm

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Ragnorok64 wrote:How does someone show "royalty" :?

Though here's a thought,if "Prime" is a designation of rank does that mean we could have Rodimus Prime show up?


That could actually be pretty good, they could have him as a recently graduated Prime.

This also makes me wonder if guys like Nova Prime will show up.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby NiteStar » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:42 pm

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Yeah, this Ultra Magnus was played by Jeff Bennett.

Well this series is doing a great job with mimicking G1 Voices. First Ratchet sounds exactly like G1 Kupp played by John Stevenson and now Ultra Magnus sounds like Robert Stack from the '86 movie. You guys cant say his voice is not a dead ringer
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Shadowman » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:47 pm

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Here's the Official Shadowman Thoughts:

1. Sentinel Prime is apparently going to be the "Jackass" character who only serves to make everyone else seem a lot nicer.

2. Jazz is easily likable. His lines are all brilliant, and it helps that Phil Lamarr (Ex-MadTV cast member, and voice acting GOD) is reading them. His Laser nunchaku are sweet.

3. So it WAS Dinobot island. Huh. I wonder why the Dinobots didn't do anything during the fight with Megatron.

4. Ultra Magnus has no personality. But GodDAMN if that hammer of his isn't awesome.

5. The "Sari Isn't Human" theory is furthered here.

6. The AllSpark looks like it might be going down the same road as the O-Parts from RID.

7. So does Isaac Sumdac, apparently, but unlike Onishi, it looks like they're using Sumdac to build them stuff, like a Starga--I mean, Space Bridge.

Ragnorok64 wrote:How does someone show "royalty" :?

Though here's a thought,if "Prime" is a designation of rank does that mean we could have Rodimus Prime show up?


That would make a lot of sense.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby shortround » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:54 pm

Well it was announced today that the reason transformers won't be on next weekend is because they will be showing an encore presitation of ben ten alien force instead. I can't wait to see the next episode so we can find out more about the mystery surounding sari.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Archanubis » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:00 pm

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Shadowman wrote:4. Ultra Magnus has no personality. But GodDAMN if that hammer of his isn't awesome.

Ultra Magnus wasn't really featured enough for his personality to be developed. He stayed mostly in the background. But I'll agree with your statement about his Mjolnir-style hammer.

Shadowman wrote:7. So does Isaac Sumdac, apparently, but unlike Onishi, it looks like they're using Sumdac to build them stuff, like a Starga--I mean, Space Bridge.

May be preaching to the choir here, but you do realize that the concept of a Spacebridge is older than Stargates, right? And if you're talking about appearance, the Warp Gates in the third season of G1 were similar to the spacebridge links in this series.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby AxiomScion » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:32 pm

Well then, here are the official Axiom thoughts :wink:

1. Ticktimus will make me like Optimus the rest of the season. That alone makes me like the slag shoveling monster truck.

2. Jazz watched thundercats while getting his altmode, and is cool enough to teach Prowl and perhaps the others. Prowl will surpass Jazz in metalikato.

3. Something big will go down to warrant all the bots to work together. (a combiner) Something even bigger should they need human support. (space bridge army/prison break?)

4. Ultra Magnus' Norse hammer with RiD blue blazes has more personality then him. How long before Sentinel convinces him to take the key from sarri?

5. Sarri is either a clone of Sumdac's wife, mom, or sister who died in the crash. A product of cybertronian tech.

6. I said there will be allspark shards... and this may make sarri appear more useful.

7. Prime time: RodimusP (fiery sports truck please) could come out when the Decepticons use the space bridge to Cybertron. VectorP and NovaP could be part of some council or something.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Squawk'n'talk » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:23 pm

wicked episode... anyone else think Sentinel's alt-mode resembles Gears?
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby UltraPrimal » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:49 pm

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I just had a thought. Couldn't Sari use her key to find all the Allspark shards just like how Megatron used it to find the Allspark in the last episode?
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Shadowman » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:28 pm

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Shadowman wrote:7. So does Isaac Sumdac, apparently, but unlike Onishi, it looks like they're using Sumdac to build them stuff, like a Starga--I mean, Space Bridge.

May be preaching to the choir here, but you do realize that the concept of a Spacebridge is older than Stargates, right? And if you're talking about appearance, the Warp Gates in the third season of G1 were similar to the spacebridge links in this series.


Yeah, I do. The spacebridges look more like the Gate System in Cowboy Bebop, but apparently can exit anywhere, like Hyperspace in...everything.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Liege Evilmus » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:35 pm

I half saw this episode again this morning(still in bed).

Well I noticed something. The rough drawing promo pic for the comercial break was of Optimal Optimus :D

Could it be that someone in the Cartoon Network add department has taste in good Transformers designs and wants to push it as best they can!?!
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby AxiomScion » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:07 am

UltraPrimal wrote:I just had a thought. Couldn't Sari use her key to find all the Allspark shards just like how Megatron used it to find the Allspark in the last episode?

yes, she is an amalgamation of Kagomai and several other anime girls.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Overcracker » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:11 pm

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Nekoman wrote:Saw it last night (recorded it) and it was a really, really good episode.

I didn’t like some of the Ninja crap and UM seemed a little too gullible, but I like how it expanded on the scenario a bit.

Jazz wasn’t too bad, the episode didn’t concentrate on G1 reference but more kept to the story, which is good. I had fun watching it!


In the words of an old MacGyver Episode. "Hallelujah Ambrose!".

Am I dreaming, did Nekoman actually find something he likes about this series. I am impressed. Glad you finally found something you liked about it. Its good to hear positive for a change. This is in no way meant as an insult or anything like that. I'm just happy you like something from it.

Anyway back to the episode. I can't wait for the UM toy to be released, he needs to have a huge hammer.

Ohh ohh you hear that, its the pitty patty of little feet of kitbashers shuffling about finding paints and add-ons to turn him into a Marvel Crossovers Thor.

Sentinel Prime well his personality speaks for itself. He's a big obnoxious narcissistic bully. Loved the slap in the face he got from Prime whit the "The last time I checked we still had equal Rank"

Does anybody think his alt mode looks a bit like Energon Ironhide:
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Jazz was quite cool with the Nunchucks.

I really liked the episode. Can't wait for all the figures to show up in stores.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Nekoman » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:26 pm

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Overcracker wrote:
Nekoman wrote:Saw it last night (recorded it) and it was a really, really good episode.

I didn’t like some of the Ninja crap and UM seemed a little too gullible, but I like how it expanded on the scenario a bit.

Jazz wasn’t too bad, the episode didn’t concentrate on G1 reference but more kept to the story, which is good. I had fun watching it!


In the words of an old MacGyver Episode. "Hallelujah Ambrose!".

Am I dreaming, did Nekoman actually find something he likes about this series. I am impressed. Glad you finally found something you liked about it. Its good to hear positive for a change. This is in no way meant as an insult or anything like that. I'm just happy you like something from it.

Anyway back to the episode. I can't wait for the UM toy to be released, he needs to have a huge hammer.

Ohh ohh you hear that, its the pitty patty of little feet of kitbashers shuffling about finding paints and add-ons to turn him into a Marvel Crossovers Thor.

Sentinel Prime well his personality speaks for itself. He's a big obnoxious narcissistic bully. Loved the slap in the face he got from Prime whit the "The last time I checked we still had equal Rank"

Does anybody think his alt mode looks a bit like Energon Ironhide:
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Jazz was quite cool with the Nunchucks.

I really liked the episode. Can't wait for all the figures to show up in stores.

Yeah, your dreaming. Now let me pinch you and let you hear me complain again!

Nah, just kidding. Anyway, I’ve got to admit this episode almost fixed everything I didn’t like about the show. First, we have a plot (finally), some mystery and importance added to Sari and it expanded a good deal on the setting.

It really did beat the heck out of what I thought it would be.

Now in the back of my head I get the feeling the next episode will return to usual, but if it was something like this one, I’ll enjoy it. I’m going to hope this will mark the end of some of the “go nowhere” episodes and keep the story going a bit.

And yes, the first thing I noticed about Sentinel was his resemblance to E Ironhide.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:05 pm

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Liege Evilmus wrote:I half saw this episode again this morning(still in bed).

Well I noticed something. The rough drawing promo pic for the comercial break was of Optimal Optimus :D

Could it be that someone in the Cartoon Network add department has taste in good Transformers designs and wants to push it as best they can!?!


What are you talking about? What promo pic?
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby shortround » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:10 pm

He a freaking snowplow and who not going to notice a giant snowplow driving threw detroit on a regular bases. couldn't find the quote I was looking for but it had something to do with forms that Sentinel Prime chose for himself and ultra magnus.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby robotrik » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:13 pm

I don't understand why people complain about the story not going anywhere at times... i mean g1 was excatly the same and yet nobody ever complained about it.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Nekoman » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:57 pm

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robotrik wrote:I don't understand why people complain about the story not going anywhere at times... i mean g1 was excatly the same and yet nobody ever complained about it.

Well to me, it having the same problem that G1 had doesn’t exactly make it better. People probably don’t go back and discuss stuff like that cause G1 was twenty-four years ago and Animated is now. That’s why you’ll see more talk about Animated, including more complaining and more praise then you will for, lets say, RID at the moment.

And not every episode is like that, but a lot of episodes, example; Nature Calls took the story absolutely nowhere.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Tekka » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:02 pm

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I don't mind the story developing slowly. At least Animated has one advantage over it's progenitor, that being episodes do build on each other. G1 reused old plot developments only a handful of times and never to significant effect.

The only thing on my mind about Animated at the moment though, is what has become of Starscream?
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Overcracker » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:04 pm

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shortround wrote:He a freaking snowplow and who not going to notice a giant snowplow driving threw detroit on a regular bases. couldn't find the quote I was looking for but it had something to do with forms that Sentinel Prime chose for himself and ultra magnus.



You mean:

Sentinel Prime wrote:As you know I scanned some typical earth vehicles sir, So we won't attract attention to ourselves..."


Yeah a snowplow and a big honking war truck with missile pods, are very inconspicuous in Detroit.
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Cyberstrike » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:56 pm

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A good show, Animated is starting to get out of first gear.

Things that I like: Jazz, Sentinal Prime, and Ultra Magnus. Sari's not having "existing", and overt G1 references and annoying humans kept to a minimum.

Things I didn't like: The Dinobots when do they anything that actully
help the story?
The shows getting too Autobot heavy they need more Decepticons.

I mean Megatron's plan is too invade Cybertron with a force of wha 5 or 6 Decepticons? I mean I know Animated's Decepticons are supposed to be very powerful but 6 Decepticons face a million Autobots, they're going to lose. The overall plot is going to have the Transformers fight for the Allspark crystals, sounds like the plot to
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Re: Season 2: Episode 17: The Elite Guard

Postby Tekka » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:14 pm

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There is probably an army of Decepticons we have not seen yet. But to prematurely mobilize them would bring the full might of the Autobot forces down upon them.

Should Megatron ever get the Space Bridge technology working I would imagine they would set it up in such a way as to instantly swarm Cybertron with the entirety of their ranks.
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