Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings to randomly click things in the Admin Panel to see what it breaks."
Have you done a scan of your computer? Because that's always a possibility that it's on your end.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
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Burn wrote:Have you done a scan of your computer? Because that's always a possibility that it's on your end.
Just did a scan and nothing came up. Got redirected while typing this too.
Shhhhhhh... I was never here. You never got anything from me.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
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Railbomb wrote:I'm guessing this is the right place to report this, I've been getting redirected to malicious sites recently at random moments while browsing the site.I'm not sure if it's related to ads or not but it'd be greatly appreciated if someone could look into it.
What kind of malicious sites? I'm using FireFox 49.0.1, and every once in a while, I get forcefully redirected to a fake FireFox Update site, with an automatic Javascript download. Not just here, but it seems any site I visit is fair game.
Also, I've manually blocked these from running on the site (for speed reasons):
- Adobe Flash
- Java
- RealPlayer & RealTimes
- Shockwave
- Silverlight
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- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl

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Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him

- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "A leader who stays dead is the best kind."
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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Railbomb wrote:I'm guessing this is the right place to report this, I've been getting redirected to malicious sites recently at random moments while browsing the site.I'm not sure if it's related to ads or not but it'd be greatly appreciated if someone could look into it.
What kind of malicious sites? I'm using FireFox 49.0.1, and every once in a while, I get forcefully redirected to a fake FireFox Update site, with an automatic Javascript download. Not just here, but it seems any site I visit is fair game.
Also, I've manually blocked these from running on the site (for speed reasons):
- Adobe Flash
- Java
- RealPlayer & RealTimes
- Shockwave
- Silverlight
A fake TWC survey site and a fake Google Chrome update site. I've not experience it on any other sites, but this is also one of the few sites I have my adblocker disabled on and I hope that doesn't have anything to do with it.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Railbomb wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Railbomb wrote:I'm guessing this is the right place to report this, I've been getting redirected to malicious sites recently at random moments while browsing the site.I'm not sure if it's related to ads or not but it'd be greatly appreciated if someone could look into it.
What kind of malicious sites? I'm using FireFox 49.0.1, and every once in a while, I get forcefully redirected to a fake FireFox Update site, with an automatic Javascript download. Not just here, but it seems any site I visit is fair game.
Also, I've manually blocked these from running on the site (for speed reasons):
- Adobe Flash
- Java
- RealPlayer & RealTimes
- Shockwave
- Silverlight
A fake TWC survey site and a fake Google Chrome update site. I've not experience it on any other sites, but this is also one of the few sites I have my adblocker disabled on and I hope that doesn't have anything to do with it.
Huh, same things as I have, only with FireFox. One little development however: a couple times when that was triggered, my anti-virus triggered as well. Must be nothing more than a stubborn piece of malware as it can be removed, but not disinfected.
Better turn on the adblocker again...
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Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him
)
- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl

- Jelze Bunnycat =:3
Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him

- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "i know kung fu. -Keanu Reeves"
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I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not yet, but the faction choices aren't working. I'm trying to change back to "Rubsign", but every time I save it, it gives me an error message saying "The field 'Allegiance' must be completed".
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
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SEIBERTRON IS BACK!
Was that downtime scheduled maintenance, or was it a random kremzeek?
Was that downtime scheduled maintenance, or was it a random kremzeek?

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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings to randomly click things in the Admin Panel to see what it breaks."
-Kanrabat- wrote:Was that downtime scheduled maintenance, or was it a random kremzeek?
Random kremzeek.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
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Burn wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Was that downtime scheduled maintenance, or was it a random kremzeek?
Random kremzeek.
Figured. Otherwise, it would have been announced.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
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Just a reminder that the RSS feed sill isn't updating on mobile apps.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
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That square ad that runs on the top right side of every page is torture on every browser I've used. It repeatedly makes the browser lock up for a second or two, can cause lag on my second monitor when I'm watching videos (YouTube, Hulu, Netflix, etc.), and does crazy things when I'm posting like take my cursor off of the text field or make the browser scroll. Happens most often when the ad box is playing a video. I can tell this ad is the source of the problem because it usually happens when it's changing from ad to ad.
The current ad is https://cdn.kdn.cloud/AMZ/short/novembe ... 00x250.mp4 and it only froze the browser for a second when it first loaded. It's the one that cycles through multiple ads that are torture to post during, have to keep hitting the preview button to reload the page until I find an ad that doesn't give me trouble.
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The current ad is https://cdn.kdn.cloud/AMZ/short/novembe ... 00x250.mp4 and it only froze the browser for a second when it first loaded. It's the one that cycles through multiple ads that are torture to post during, have to keep hitting the preview button to reload the page until I find an ad that doesn't give me trouble.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "Spellcheck's antithesis."
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Still having a lot of trouble with these video ads, they make this place almost impossible to visit sometimes and that's becoming more and more frequent. Hate to run ad blocker since I know that's a big money maker for Seibertron, but things are getting quite frustrating now. And it isn't just when I post anymore; just browsing the front page can be a real chore lately.
Also yesterday I got a video add in the small banner space below the Seibertron logo complete with audio.
Emerje
Also yesterday I got a video add in the small banner space below the Seibertron logo complete with audio.

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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
What browser are you using? If you're using Firefox, you may be able to circumvent the problem by disabling some of the plugins used.
On any page of the site, right click, then select "View Page Info", then go to the "Permissions" Tab. From there you can block plugins from loading for the site. By standard I have these blocked:
- Abode Flash
- Shockwave
- Java
- RealPlayer
- Silverlight
At least the blocking Flash plugin that the videos use should improve the loading time.
On any page of the site, right click, then select "View Page Info", then go to the "Permissions" Tab. From there you can block plugins from loading for the site. By standard I have these blocked:
- Abode Flash
- Shockwave
- Java
- RealPlayer
- Silverlight
At least the blocking Flash plugin that the videos use should improve the loading time.
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- Jelze Bunnycat =:3
Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him
)
- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl

- Jelze Bunnycat =:3
Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him

- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
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Emerje wrote:Still having a lot of trouble with these video ads, they make this place almost impossible to visit sometimes and that's becoming more and more frequent. Hate to run ad blocker since I know that's a big money maker for Seibertron, but things are getting quite frustrating now. And it isn't just when I post anymore; just browsing the front page can be a real chore lately.
Also yesterday I got a video add in the small banner space below the Seibertron logo complete with audio.![]()
Emerje
I leave my adblock off for Youtube and many other sites. Unfortunately, I MUST let it open for Seibertron because the adds are ridiculously intruisives.
A shame, really.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "Spellcheck's antithesis."
- Weapon: Saw-Edged Pincer
I think I found a workaround that temporarily fixes the problem. The AdChoices ads that appear in the same ad space don't cause the same problems as the video ads. So if I occasionally click on them they appear more often and I can get around here without a bunch of stuttering and freezing.
BTW, I use Chrome.
Emerje
BTW, I use Chrome.
Emerje
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "Love it? GET IT!
It's that simple." - Weapon: Vibro-Axe
SEIBERTRON!
Is... is everything okay?
Is... is everything okay?
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "Can't do a job halfway. What's worth doing is worth doing well, I say."
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This picture in G1 Kup's gallery is faulty - http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/view/g1-1986/kup/634/1/44/
"When there's gold feathers, punch behind you!!"
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "Transform and rise up!"
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Sabrblade wrote:This picture in G1 Kup's gallery is faulty - http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/view/g1-1986/kup/634/1/44/
It's not just in Kup's gallery sadly. The issue is in numerous others I've noticed as well where it only loads half the image and the rest is grey. Looks like some stuff got corrupted when the site went down last.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings to randomly click things in the Admin Panel to see what it breaks."
TyrannosaurTJ wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This picture in G1 Kup's gallery is faulty - http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/view/g1-1986/kup/634/1/44/
It's not just in Kup's gallery sadly. The issue is in numerous others I've noticed as well where it only loads half the image and the rest is grey. Looks like some stuff got corrupted when the site went down last.
Ryan is now working on this. Will let you guys know when it's done, then if you find more, let us know.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "'Til All Are One!"
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TyrannosaurTJ wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This picture in G1 Kup's gallery is faulty - http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/view/g1-1986/kup/634/1/44/
It's not just in Kup's gallery sadly. The issue is in numerous others I've noticed as well where it only loads half the image and the rest is grey. Looks like some stuff got corrupted when the site went down last.
The corrupt images are from my backup of the site last fall. It was the largest single backup I had ever made of seibertron.com, but unfortunately I didn't know that the images were corrupt at the time. The hard drive failing, which caused the corrupt files, finally failed in March 2016. I used that server backup though as a beginning point from the incident that happened a month ago. I've been slowly replacing corrupt images as they've been found over the past month, but decided to write a script today that will actually seek out the corrupt images in the galleries. I've spent the past 4.5 hours going through G1 through Beast Wars. Fortunately, this is forcing me to get all of my images in one stored location instead of on various external hard drives and CDs. Will keep you guys posted. If there's a corrupt image you would like to see fixed right away, please let me know so that I can move that series up the list. Thanks!
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "'Til All Are One!"
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G1, G2, Machine Wars, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Beast Wars 10th Anniversary, BWII, Beast Wars Neo, RID (2001), Universe, Energon and Alternators/Binaltech has been fixed. Working on restoring other series currently. Will keep you guys posted.
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Seibertron - Site Owner
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "'Til All Are One!"
- Weapon: Twin Shock-Concussion Missiles
Working on Transformers Cybertron right now ... re-uploading from a known good source, then re-running the script to see if anything was missed and will proceed as needed at that point.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "'Til All Are One!"
- Weapon: Twin Shock-Concussion Missiles
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "'Til All Are One!"
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Star Wars Transformers is all set. I know everyone is very excited about this development.
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Re: Seibertron.com Problem Reporting Thread
- Motto: "Can't do a job halfway. What's worth doing is worth doing well, I say."
- Weapon: Saber Blade
Rock on, Ryan!

"When there's gold feathers, punch behind you!!"
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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