Stormrider wrote:Mkall wrote:Stormrider wrote:I'm not very impressed with the headsculpts of Soundwave, Gigatron, or Metalhawk.
I like Gigatron's head. It's a nice reference to Last Stand of The Wreckers. I only wish that the body asthetics could match the head to give us a proper Overlord.
I completely agree that the face reminds me of the Last Stand of the Wreckers. And I am with you - Gigatron's face and body do not go well together. One is cartoonish, the other is movie.
Seibertron wrote:Stormrider wrote:Mkall wrote:Stormrider wrote:I'm not very impressed with the headsculpts of Soundwave, Gigatron, or Metalhawk.
I like Gigatron's head. It's a nice reference to Last Stand of The Wreckers. I only wish that the body asthetics could match the head to give us a proper Overlord.
I completely agree that the face reminds me of the Last Stand of the Wreckers. And I am with you - Gigatron's face and body do not go well together. One is cartoonish, the other is movie.
This face is a terrible Transformers face. It's not what his face looks like in LSOTW. The overall shape of the head is, but the face itself is proportioned very poorly. To demonstrate my point, I put this montage together of various headshots of Overlord/Gigatron from the LSOTW comics, the BotCon prequel comic, Overlord's original box art, and the Invasion box set artwork. It's obvious that the LSOTW face/head was what they were going for, but the end product just fails miserably. Not sure if the oddly angled eyes are what's wrong, or the long nose, or the way-too-human lips (which look terrible on Nick Roche's artwork as well), or way too large of a space between the nose and the upper lip (the philtrum) ... but altogether the face is just proportioned poorly. Maybe it's because I'm an artist and I can clearly see that the facial proportions are incorrect that this face bothers me so much. I see what they were trying to do, it just didn't work out well. They should've stuck with a traditional Transformer face.
Seibertron wrote:Definitely have to agree to disagree. I threw this very quick mock-up together in photoshop. After playing around with his face for a while, I figured out where I feel the biggest changes need to be made ... it's mostly in the eyes. The eyes are too high up, the top part of the bridge of the nose by the eyebrows needs to go, the "eyebrow"/forehead space between the top of his eyes and the bottom his helmet needs to be reduced signifcantly after moving the eyes lower on his face, plus the lines/indentations around the eyes need to be added. Again, this is a real quick mock-up (i.e. not perfect) to demonstrate some changes that should've been made to the final model. Hopefully this will demonstrate what I'm trying to express better.
Mkall wrote:EDIT: In looking for pictures of G1 Overlord, there aren't many out there that I could find where the head is shown clearly aside from tfu.info's page. It could be the flash playing off the head, but I think there's lips on it as well. Thus until I'm proven wrong, I thus believe this to be a decent homage to the original Overlord, but not as good as it was to Nick Roche's
El Duque wrote:Whoever does their sculpting seems to have a problem with eyes. Astrotrain comes to mind, as well as this guy and this year's SG Soundwave.
NaM3L3sS wrote:Apologies in advance if this has been documented elsewhere, but, what is SG Soundwave's headband made out of? I was looking at that horrible official rubber one on eBay, (even though it should have been included with each fig), I'll be damned if I'm forking out for that....
I just bought a length of Lime-Green 3mm ribbon on eBay, then saw that plasticky goodness in the gallery -what IS it?!?!?
whacko wrote:Soundwave is embarrassingly bad. I mean he looks like a cheap KO. Happymeal Transformers have had better paint.
El Duque wrote:Why the Hell didn't they use RtS Perceptor for SG Soundwave. SUV alt mode, check. Opening chest, check. Shoulder cannon, check.
El Duque wrote:Why the Hell didn't they use RtS Perceptor for SG Soundwave. SUV alt mode, check. Opening chest, check. Shoulder cannon, check.
Mkall wrote:El Duque wrote:Why the Hell didn't they use RtS Perceptor for SG Soundwave. SUV alt mode, check. Opening chest, check. Shoulder cannon, check.
I think that the Club portrayed SG Soundwave in this form before RTS Perceptor was revieled. Thus they (and we) are kinda stuck with it.
Seibertron wrote:I really hope Shattered Glass can be put to bed. I can't get over how many of you got suckered into the most lame and easy repaint excuse storyline ever. Shattered Glass makes the 2003/2004 Universe storyline seem awesome. It was OK for the 2008 BotCon exclusive set. A one time deal. If you don't like it ... that's OK. Move on to the next thing. But to continue to drag it on is just too much. Optimus Prime is not evil. Megatron is not heroic.
Soundwave having a neon/lime green bandanna is about as bad as it should get. Enough's enough. It was fun for a one year thing, but it got really old as soon as BotCon 2008 ended.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Seibertron wrote:whacko wrote:Soundwave is embarrassingly bad. I mean he looks like a cheap KO. Happymeal Transformers have had better paint.
Not to mention the bulging eyes. I'm surprised more people aren't bitching about that. I'm really anal about their faces. It's my thing. Soundwave is my favorite character. Music Label Soundwave is pretty awesome. Shattered Glass Soundwave is a very bad implementation and mold choice.
I really hope Shattered Glass can be put to bed. I can't get over how many of you got suckered into the most lame and easy repaint excuse storyline ever. Shattered Glass makes the 2003/2004 Universe storyline seem awesome. It was OK for the 2008 BotCon exclusive set. A one time deal. If you don't like it ... that's OK. Move on to the next thing. But to continue to drag it on is just too much. Optimus Prime is not evil. Megatron is not heroic.
Seibertron wrote:whacko wrote:Soundwave is embarrassingly bad. I mean he looks like a cheap KO. Happymeal Transformers have had better paint.
Not to mention the bulging eyes. I'm surprised more people aren't bitching about that. I'm really anal about their faces. It's my thing. Soundwave is my favorite character. Music Label Soundwave is pretty awesome. Shattered Glass Soundwave is a very bad implementation and mold choice.
I really hope Shattered Glass can be put to bed. I can't get over how many of you got suckered into the most lame and easy repaint excuse storyline ever. Shattered Glass makes the 2003/2004 Universe storyline seem awesome. It was OK for the 2008 BotCon exclusive set. A one time deal. If you don't like it ... that's OK. Move on to the next thing. But to continue to drag it on is just too much. Optimus Prime is not evil. Megatron is not heroic.
Soundwave having a neon/lime green bandanna is about as bad as it should get. Enough's enough. It was fun for a one year thing, but it got really old as soon as BotCon 2008 ended.
Stormrider wrote:I agree that SG is one of the weakest storylines in the Transformers universe. It is a lazy way to do repaints. An alternate universe with same characters but opposite in personal is so cliched. The only thing missing are the "evil goatees". I too would wish they would get SG.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Seibertron wrote:whacko wrote:Soundwave is embarrassingly bad. I mean he looks like a cheap KO. Happymeal Transformers have had better paint.
Not to mention the bulging eyes. I'm surprised more people aren't bitching about that. I'm really anal about their faces. It's my thing. Soundwave is my favorite character. Music Label Soundwave is pretty awesome. Shattered Glass Soundwave is a very bad implementation and mold choice.
Well, it was a forced choice, as stated before and you all know it:
SG Soundwave in "The Desert Heat" (2009) on TFWiki
Years before RTS was even conceived, let alone Perceptor.
Seibertron wrote:I can't get over how many of you got suckered into the most lame and easy repaint excuse storyline ever.
Mkall wrote:I gotta say that these three won the year with Kick-Off being a close second. I love these guys.
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