Seibertron wrote:Riotflea wrote:It fails being G1 and seems like it'll fail as a good movie, despite however many get initially suckered in by the inevitable media blitz as seen with Godzilla and ID4.
Last I checked, Indepence Day was a very successfuly movie. It's ranked #22 on the all-time highest grossing movies list.
http://www.movieweb.com/movies/boxoffice/alltime.php
Godzilla doesn't even show up on the list. If Transformers can hold a candle to the success of ID4, it will be a great thing.
Seibertron wrote:EDIT2: I just realized that the first list that I linked spans over 26 pages so maybe Godzilla appears on one of the later lists. I'll take Transformers doing as well as ID4 to get in the top 25 of all time. That'd make me a very happy Transformers website owner.
Alex Kingdom wrote:It was also widly critisied by the press.
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Burn wrote:Sorry folks, but just because I like a good action flick with mindless violence, a bit of sex and nudity, and little to no storyline doesn't make me dumb or stupid. It just means I know how to enjoy a movie without over-analysing it and trying to compare it to other epic movies.
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Thanks and I know, I've been reading for years, I just don't usually post. (I'm usually to be found on Usenet and BWTF.) I guess you can call me a hater. I'm more just frustrated with the direction the movie went. If it does well and lots of people enjoy it, that's great for them. I guess I'm just too much of a purist.
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Alex Kingdom wrote:Burn wrote:Sorry folks, but just because I like a good action flick with mindless violence, a bit of sex and nudity, and little to no storyline doesn't make me dumb or stupid. It just means I know how to enjoy a movie without over-analysing it and trying to compare it to other epic movies.
So I take it you enjoy all action flicks with mindless violence, a bit of sex and nudity, and little to no storyline? Or is it just the good ones? We all know the movie isn't going to be a classic, but is it actually going to be any good? All the evidence I've seen point to great special effects, no story, no real acting, Hollywood cliches a plenty, bad comedy, and no real resemblance to the subject matter. Both from the perpective of a Tranformers fan and a regular movie goer I dont like the look of this movie, and I would have written it off months ago had it not got Transformers in the title, and I don't think its narrow minded of me to say so.
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Maximus Prime wrote:Critics' opinions don't mean a thing if people have any sense.
They aren't going to like Transformers, that's a given, and pretty much a guarantee.
They didn't like Ghost Rider and I really enjoyed it.
When I read statements like "Depite being panned by critics Ghost Rider brought in 44.5 million dollars on its opening weekend" I consider that to be pretty damn successful.
Leonard Malton hated TF: The Movie, as did Siskel and Ebert.
But who gives a crap what they thought of it? People flocked in to the theaters to make their own assessments.
Some didn't like it, some did, but can anyone honestly say "I liked the movie but because the critics thought it was **** I have no choice but to voice my displeasure over it."
This crap about the 'humour' in the movie is getting out of hand too. Every movie like this has some 'chuckleable' scene. GR had the bike cop getting blown off his bike at the speed trap.
LOL funny? No, but it created a chuckle among the crowd.
This is, again, a redundant argument, but all I'm saying is stop caring what the critics think. They aren't special people, they're just people who get paid a stupid amount of money to watch movies that are "Oscar-worthy" and praise them while running down the fun stuff.
Maximus Prime wrote:Critics' opinions don't mean a thing if people have any sense. etc...
Alex Kingdom wrote:So I take it you enjoy all action flicks with mindless violence, a bit of sex and nudity, and little to no storyline?
We all know the movie isn't going to be a classic, but is it actually going to be any good? All the evidence I've seen point to great special effects, no story, no real acting, Hollywood cliches a plenty, bad comedy, and no real resemblance to the subject matter.
Both from the perpective of a Tranformers fan and a regular movie goer I dont like the look of this movie, and I would have written it off months ago had it not got Transformers in the title, and I don't think its narrow minded of me to say so.
Agreed whole heartedly, it is our own individual opinions that count at the end of the day. Burn just chose to zero in on a tiny part of a much larger point I was trying to make, that financial success at the box office does not necessarily equate to it being a good movie
stormrider wrote:So it sounds like the argument for this movie is boiling down to following:
1. Is this movie going to be entertaining?
2. Will this movie support the Transformer franchise or hinder it?
3. Is this movie going to be a classic or short lived?
Shall we start a pool?
Spoon wrote:Nope sorry, still doesn't sound and feel like transformers to me. Just an action movie about 'alien' car robots with humans.
I guess it was too much for me to hope for a good transformer movie instead of a mindless action flick with robots...
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Transtopias Rodimus Prime wrote:Spoon wrote:Nope sorry, still doesn't sound and feel like transformers to me. Just an action movie about 'alien' car robots with humans.
I guess it was too much for me to hope for a good transformer movie instead of a mindless action flick with robots...
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I thought that was what a cartoon about a bunch of transforming alien robots shooting eachother was, "a mindless action flick with robots"
I know what you mean. I'd hate for Transformers to be stuck like the movie for years to come.
Transtopias Rodimus Prime wrote:No, Transformers are not mindless, the G1 cartoon was pretty mindless though. Most cartoons are not made to be mind stimulating, especially for adults. One more thing, as a guy I would like to say that I love mindless, 99% Action flicks. There are so many real life things to think about I want to relax my brain and see a good shoot'em up, bang'em up, BLOW'EM UP, Robot, Alien, Military, Musclecar, Big Rig with flames, Sweet@ss, Speilberg, Bay, better than Spiderman, freaking MOVIE. And so do all of my friends Transfans or not. This is going to be an iconic movie that should not be missed at the Theatre.
MY HUMBLE OPINION. Matt Prime.
Bluebullet wrote:Transformers has been ionic with a certain theme and look.
Transtopias Rodimus Prime wrote:Look bluebullet, go eat something and take a nap so you won't be so cranky. I am not trying to change anything. If your stuck in 1984 that's fine make your own G1 movie. While you're at it study the history of Transformers and notice the changes and forms the bots have taken on over the years. Prime became a conventional Big Rig way back. He even became an ape, a car, a fire engine, and a bat, none of which are blocky. I can't understand why you're so mad at me for enjoying the possibility of a Transformers movie when it's what we all have wanted for so long. Just chill. quit and Primus loves you too.
Burn wrote:Lots of very well reasoned stuff
stormrider wrote:If the movie is successful probably the toy series will be split for a while. There will be the "Movie version" and the "Classics version" (or whatever you want to call them).
Batman, Superman, Spiderman, X-Men have been around for a while and the movie versions and the classic versions to rake in money from different types of fans.
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