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[Shadowman]

So anyone else see the finale of Dino Superchage? Because wow, that last two minutes completely and utterly ruined my feelings towards the entire season. Screwing history so hard the series has to be placed on an alternate timeline without completely undoing the past 20+ years.

I finally get what Amit Bhaumik was talking about, how Neo-Saban cares less about continuity than Disney ever did.

[william-james88]

So anyone else see the finale of Dino Superchage? Because wow, that last two minutes completely and utterly ruined my feelings towards the entire season. Screwing history so hard the series has to be placed on an alternate timeline without completely undoing the past 20+ years.

I finally get what Amit Bhaumik was talking about, how Neo-Saban cares less about continuity than Disney ever did.

I didnt even know there was continuity. I though the recent shows were following the Super Sentai idea of not caring much for continuity.

Also, has it been revealed if its the same cast that will be in Ninja Steel?

[Shadowman]

So anyone else see the finale of Dino Superchage? Because wow, that last two minutes completely and utterly ruined my feelings towards the entire season. Screwing history so hard the series has to be placed on an alternate timeline without completely undoing the past 20+ years.

I finally get what Amit Bhaumik was talking about, how Neo-Saban cares less about continuity than Disney ever did.

I didnt even know there was continuity. I though the recent shows were following the Super Sentai idea of not caring much for continuity.

Megaforce featured a lot of prior Rangers showing up, so it was kind of assumed that the Neo-Saban era still had one big shared continuity.

Also, has it been revealed if its the same cast that will be in Ninja Steel?

Nope, the cast for Ninja Steel has already been revealed, and none of them are from this team. Although Yoshi Sudarso's (Koda) brother Peter is going to be the Blue Ninja Steel Ranger. (Look up Yoshi's reaction to that on Youtube, it's absolutely adorable)

[Sabrblade]

So anyone else see the finale of Dino Superchage? Because wow, that last two minutes completely and utterly ruined my feelings towards the entire season. Screwing history so hard the series has to be placed on an alternate timeline without completely undoing the past 20+ years.

I finally get what Amit Bhaumik was talking about, how Neo-Saban cares less about continuity than Disney ever did.

I just got done watching the finale. HO-LY COW, that was awful! Have they completely lost their minds?!! Why?!! Why would they do this?! It's like the biggest middle finger to PR continuity ever.

I can't believe that Judd Lynn, the guy responsible for some of the best PR seasons ever, helped make this nonsense possible.

Not to mention how downright insane Sledge's plan was. I mean, literally towing the whole planet Earth out of orbit with just his tiny ship? That's nuts even for Power Rangers! And then the way that the Dark Energem was destroyed had my jaw on the floor the whole time for how downright stupid that was.

And the whole time travel ordeal completely undid everything the series had accomplished beforehand, even erasing the very need for the rangers to even become rangers at all. This also means that Lord Arcanon is now no longer destroyed and still remains at large in the new timeline since the rangers of the present new timeline no longer needed to be rangers in this new timeline. Nice going there, guys.

And, thinking more about it, wouldn't this mean that there are now two of each present-day ranger in the new timeline? Two Tylers, two Shelbys, etc.? Cuz the rangers might have changed history and came to the new timeline from the old one, but they didn't supplant the versions of themselves who were born into this new timeline. The same thing happened in the fourth season of the current TMNT cartoon on Nickelodeon. The Turtles traveled back in time to save Earth from being destroyed by a black hole (GEE, doesn't THAT sound familiar?!!!), but because they came over to a new timeline from their old one, there were two sets of Turtles in the new timeline afterward.

Dino Charge and Dino Super Charge weren't perfect before, but up until now, they still had been stark improvements over the previous Neo-Saban Era seasons. And then they had to go and pull off this garbage of an ending that completely ruined the whole of both seasons.

[william-james88]

Remember when we all assumed the Ninja Steel Megazord toys would be smaller well... not really

Here are 2 side by side and there's a review that shows the green redeco zord in depth. So yeah if they make Lion Ha Oh, he will be immense

[King Kuuga]

Well it IS smaller. And Shurikenjin wasn't gigantic to begin with. Compare with the Muteki Shogun/Shogun Megazord and Senpuujin/Ninja Storm Megazord.

Here is the Ninja Storm Megazord with the Spino Charge Megazord for scale relativism (same mold as the DC, I didn't want to disassemble my Plesio Charge Pachy-Rex for a quick picture)


It's in line with the size differences between the Kyoryuzin and the Dino Charge Megazord.


The main thing is that BOA Zordbuilder scale megazords tend to simplify on the BOJ designs to a degree. the Samurai zords couldn't assume emblem mode, the Dino Charge Megazord is missing some hinges and has faux parts for the tricera drills on the back instead of the horns folding down. The train zord in the Ninja Steel line doesn't contain the pelvis of the robot, instead being just the legs. And there are omitted paint applications and any electronics that may have been present are nixed. It's kind of like the complaints about Takara vs Hasbro toys (whether accurate or not) but with an entirely different mold.


(And in case you hadn't deduced this, only the middle picture is mine)

[Sabrblade]

^The main megazord from Ninja Storm was just called the "Storm Megazord" (though, its Deluxe toy was named the "Storm Power Megazord", to differentiate it from the Lightning version).

[william-james88]

King Kugga, if you watch the review you will see that the size difference is not the same as Dino Charge and the Japanese counterparts.
Especially when you look at the likes of the Ptera Zord and Plezio Zord.

These are pretty much the same size since, as you said, Ninninjer is a smaller zord (though not as small as those cubes, which I think will be skipped by BOA).



Good eye though with that pelvis, I had not caught that. You will see that several things are also made simpler here. Still, for the price I think its fair ($30 price point instead of $50 price point). Looking forward to owning the standard version.

[King Kuuga]

^The main megazord from Ninja Storm was just called the "Storm Megazord" (though, its Deluxe toy was named the "Storm Power Megazord", to differentiate it from the Lightning version).

I knew that, I'm just tired.

King Kugga

Who?

, if you watch the review you will see that the size difference is not the same as Dino Charge and the Japanese counterparts.

I know that, the Kyoryuger stuff was pretty huge.

Especially when you look at the likes of the Ptera Zord and Plezio Zord.

Did you forget that I'm the one who posted this?

These are pretty much the same size since, as you said, Ninninjer is a smaller zord (though not as small as those cubes, which I think will be skipped by BOA).

Smaller doesn't just mean height. It's the mass as well. The Shurikenjin appears more substantial. Not a criticism of either version, just the facts.

Good eye though with that pelvis, I had not caught that. You will see that several things are also made simpler here. Still, for the price I think its fair ($30 price point instead of $50 price point).

Again, preaching to the choir here.

[Madeus Prime]

I'm curious, thoughts on Ex-Aid so far? I think it's far better than Ghost, but then again, Ghost kind of was the bottom of the barrel for Riders.

[william-james88]

Sorry madeus, I dont even know the show and I hope you dont mind asking my own questions on an unrelated topic after your post.

I am watching Power Ranger Dino Charge on netflix (here's hoping they get the rest of super charge up soon, its fun to watch with my toddler, the theme song rocks) and I am super ocnfused at how any of the stuff is related. I am talking about energem, chargers, zords and dinosaurs. It seems to be more thematic than anything else, kinda like how in Age of Extinction it starts with Dinosaurs turning metal and at the end we see big metallic dinosaur robots and yet the two are unrelated.

Anyways, I dont get it. I know the energems power the chargers which then power the zords, thats I get. BUT how are the dino zords connected to the the original dinosaurs Keeper entrusted the energems to? Pretty much, what do the dinosaurs have to do with anything? Let me know if I am not being clear.

[Sabrblade]

Anyways, I dont get it. I know the energems power the chargers which then power the zords, thats I get. BUT how are the dino zords connected to the the original dinosaurs Keeper entrusted the energems to? Pretty much, what do the dinosaurs have to do with anything? Let me know if I am not being clear.

Are you watching the episodes in order (i.e. - episode 1, episode 2, etc.)? How far are you guys into the series?

[william-james88]

Anyways, I dont get it. I know the energems power the chargers which then power the zords, thats I get. BUT how are the dino zords connected to the the original dinosaurs Keeper entrusted the energems to? Pretty much, what do the dinosaurs have to do with anything? Let me know if I am not being clear.

Are you watching the episodes in order (i.e. - episode 1, episode 2, etc.)? How far are you guys into the series?

Quite far, when is it explained? Feel free to spoil and dont worry about hurting my ego if I missed something obvious, I watch this while I am feeding my baby so I can miss stuff.

But like they find the ankylozord very early on, before they meet the aqua ranger, and I find that odd. They can also use the packy zord without the graphite ranger around. Its not as straight forward as Zordon just telling you you have some zords he hid away that you can call upon when you need them.

[Sabrblade]

Anyways, I dont get it. I know the energems power the chargers which then power the zords, thats I get. BUT how are the dino zords connected to the the original dinosaurs Keeper entrusted the energems to? Pretty much, what do the dinosaurs have to do with anything? Let me know if I am not being clear.

Are you watching the episodes in order (i.e. - episode 1, episode 2, etc.)? How far are you guys into the series?

Quite far, when is it explained? Feel free to spoil and dont worry about hurting my ego if I missed something obvious, I watch this while I am feeding my baby so I can miss stuff.

But like they find the ankylozord very early on, before they meet the aqua ranger, and I find that odd. They can also use the packy zord without the graphite ranger around. Its not as straight forward as Zordon just telling you you have some zords he hid away that you can call upon when you need them.

Yeah, the zord pairings in this show are kinda just a formality, as pretty much any ranger can use any zord so long as they have that zord's respective Dino Charger.

But, the first episode showed Keeper giving the Energems to dinosaurs in the ancient past, right? After the dinosaurs died out, the Energems were lost to history, only recently being found by humans in the modern age. Because they were originally bonded to dinosaurs, that... I guess... ties them to... dinosaur-based stuff in the present... kinda? Well, it sure is a good thing that the Power Ranger team who found and uses them all work at a dinosaur museum, I guess. Gotta keep that dinosaur motif consistent.

As for the zords, what's the confusion? Aren't all Power Rangers zords designed to fit each respective team's motif? Like, shouldn't a dinosaur-themed team of rangers have dinosaur-themed zords? Or, am I missing a different angle in your confusion?

[william-james88]

As for the zords, what's the confusion? Aren't all Power Rangers zords designed to fit each respective team's motif? Like, shouldn't a dinosaur-themed team of rangers have dinosaur-themed zords? Or, am I missing a different angle in your confusion?

Yeah, where do they come from? Like the ankylosaur was buried under the earth. Since when? Are the zords tied to the energems?
In the first episode when Tyler and Shelby get their energems, they get a flashback to when the T-rex and triceratops got energems 65 million years ago, and they happen to then get the T-Rex and Tricera Zord. Is that a coincidence? if not, what is the relation, like the mechanics behind it.

And are we to assume that the dinosaurs who got the energems were rangers as well? Did they pilot zords?

What does the intro have to do with anything, why do we even need to know the fact that the energems were given to dinosaurs first. How does that add to anything if its just thematic? is this explained in any way in the Japanese version?

[Sabrblade]

As for the zords, what's the confusion? Aren't all Power Rangers zords designed to fit each respective team's motif? Like, shouldn't a dinosaur-themed team of rangers have dinosaur-themed zords? Or, am I missing a different angle in your confusion?

Yeah, where do they come from? Like the ankylosaur was buried under the earth. Since when? Are the zords tied to the energems?
In the first episode when Tyler and Shelby get their energems, they get a flashback to when the T-rex and triceratops got energems 65 million years ago, and they happen to then get the T-Rex and Tricera Zord. Is that a coincidence? if not, what is the relation, like the mechanics behind it.

And are we to assume that the dinosaurs who got the energems were rangers as well? Did they pilot zords?

What does the intro have to do with anything, why do we even need to know the fact that the energems were given to dinosaurs first. How does that add to anything if its just thematic? is this explained in any way in the Japanese version?

When the Energems were given to dinosaurs, each one became tied to that specific type of dinosaur. Hence why Tyler's powers/weapons/zord are T-Rex themed, Shelby's are Triceratops themed, etc.

Or, am I missing something else?

[william-james88]

As for the zords, what's the confusion? Aren't all Power Rangers zords designed to fit each respective team's motif? Like, shouldn't a dinosaur-themed team of rangers have dinosaur-themed zords? Or, am I missing a different angle in your confusion?

Yeah, where do they come from? Like the ankylosaur was buried under the earth. Since when? Are the zords tied to the energems?
In the first episode when Tyler and Shelby get their energems, they get a flashback to when the T-rex and triceratops got energems 65 million years ago, and they happen to then get the T-Rex and Tricera Zord. Is that a coincidence? if not, what is the relation, like the mechanics behind it.

And are we to assume that the dinosaurs who got the energems were rangers as well? Did they pilot zords?

What does the intro have to do with anything, why do we even need to know the fact that the energems were given to dinosaurs first. How does that add to anything if its just thematic? is this explained in any way in the Japanese version?

When the Energems were given to dinosaurs, each one became tied to that specific type of dinosaur. Hence why Tyler's powers/weapons/zord are T-Rex themed, Shelby's are Triceratops themed, etc.

Or, am I missing something else?

Ok thats good. So where do the zords come from?

[Sabrblade]

As for the zords, what's the confusion? Aren't all Power Rangers zords designed to fit each respective team's motif? Like, shouldn't a dinosaur-themed team of rangers have dinosaur-themed zords? Or, am I missing a different angle in your confusion?

Yeah, where do they come from? Like the ankylosaur was buried under the earth. Since when? Are the zords tied to the energems?
In the first episode when Tyler and Shelby get their energems, they get a flashback to when the T-rex and triceratops got energems 65 million years ago, and they happen to then get the T-Rex and Tricera Zord. Is that a coincidence? if not, what is the relation, like the mechanics behind it.

And are we to assume that the dinosaurs who got the energems were rangers as well? Did they pilot zords?

What does the intro have to do with anything, why do we even need to know the fact that the energems were given to dinosaurs first. How does that add to anything if its just thematic? is this explained in any way in the Japanese version?

When the Energems were given to dinosaurs, each one became tied to that specific type of dinosaur. Hence why Tyler's powers/weapons/zord are T-Rex themed, Shelby's are Triceratops themed, etc.

Or, am I missing something else?

Ok thats good. So where do the zords come from?

You'll see the guy who created the zords later on in Dino Super Charge.

[william-james88]

Ok thats good. So where do the zords come from?

You'll see the guy who created the zords later on in Dino Super Charge.

Thats great! Ok, so they do explain it just not all at once.

Also, one thing I find quite cool as a fan of Dinosaurs and their constant evolving look as we learn more is that they actually gave him feathers. And they are where we think they would be.

[william-james88]

Great news! For Ninja Steel, the japanese toys are compatible with the BOA molds. Meaning you can fir the auxiliary zords in no problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRPP8QyDSMU

And it doesnt seem it has any trouble standing.

[King Kuuga]

......well that's neat.

[Bradimus]

Baltmatrix posted a review of the Ninja Steel Megazord and a comparison video to Shurikenjin. Unfortunately he couldn't find the Dragon shuriken for the Shurikenjin Drago comparison. According to him the big issue is quality control, something we've discussed to death in the transformers toy forums.

[william-james88]

The one Balmatrix had was a dud. Bruno reviews his and he doesnt find anything wrong with it. He even tries to break it purposefully to see how tough the toy is. I really like his short rational speech at the end about what to expect from these toys.



Plus, here is his awesome review of all the compatibility with the japanese products!
And thank to him, I bought a UFOMaru for $12 on amazon with free shipping

[Bradimus]

The one Balmatrix had was a dud. Bruno reviews his and he doesnt find anything wrong with it. He even tries to break it purposefully to see how tough the toy is. I really like his short rational speech at the end about what to expect from these toys.

You may be right about Baltmatrix's Megazord being a dud. I watched his Hot Rod review and as usual his toy has extremely loose joint. I did not see that as an issue with Peaugh's and EmGo's reviews of the same figure. I don't know what it is with Baltmatrix but he seems to have the worst luck getting all the QC issues with his figures.

As for compatibility, while it's nice the Japanese figure can sit in the thrown the shuriken doesn't clip on. Like Bruno says, if you don't mind that it could be a better option than what BoA has done with the elephant. Personally if I was collecting I'd want everything to work as it should, but that's my personal preference. I'm glad you have an option and I do hope you enjoy the line as it is a very interesting and unique concept.

I do wish BoA would make a cleaner adaptation, though. I love the exclusive additional zords and accessories BoA comes up with using the zord builder compatibility but if I was a collector I would not purchase Ninja Steel zords because of some of the changes BoA made that I think hurt the figures. First they should do what they need to do to keep the zords in standard scale and price range. Then they should worry about the zord builder system which should only be applied to the Ninja Steel Megazord's and whatever they are calling Bison King's arms. I don't like how they changed the dump truck, train, and dragon. That may be a nitpick on my part but I don't see why they had to change those so much.

[-Kanrabat-]

I'm sure the American version will be awesome for what it is, in his own category. However, quality wise, the Japanese one will always be the superior one. If you are willing to pay the price, of course. I'm plenty satisfied with my Japanese Shurikenjin, Bison King, and Paonmaru.

Still, I'm looking forward what exclusive American zords they will make. Because they always do. Like maybe a all black and gold repaint of the main megazord or some crazy new "riders". Even I may be tempted with some of these exclusives if found on sale.