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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, I guess that's one figure I won't have to worry about after all. Whoever approved this Ironhide should be ashamed, in my opinion. Why even smegging bother with making a whole new mold at the Voyager price point if they weren't going to take proper advantage by fully recreating the sled (which is, in fact, part of the cartoon character design)? What a complete waste... Thanks for getting my hopes up for nothing, HasTak...
This was your best chance yet to create a more definitive update than the BotCon toy from SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO, and ya smegging blew it. That's what, four attempts now? Ugh....![]()
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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, I guess that's one figure I won't have to worry about after all. Whoever approved this Ironhide should be ashamed, in my opinion. Why even smegging bother with making a whole new mold at the Voyager price point if they weren't going to take proper advantage by fully recreating the sled (which is, in fact, part of the cartoon character design)? What a complete waste... Thanks for getting my hopes up for nothing, HasTak...
This was your best chance yet to create a more definitive update than the BotCon toy from SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO, and ya smegging blew it. That's what, four attempts now? Ugh....![]()
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At least Sludge is nice. Sludge is good. Glad to have Sludge.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: (which is, in fact, part of the cartoon character design)?
william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: (which is, in fact, part of the cartoon character design)?
Wait a sec, we see the sled in the cartoon?
SpaceEagle wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: (which is, in fact, part of the cartoon character design)?
Wait a sec, we see the sled in the cartoon?
Only in the veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery first episode, for one scene, and only for Ratchet, who then never uses it ever again.
It's not even part of their character models either, and likewise barely appears once (for both characters) in the Marvel comics.
SpaceEagle wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: (which is, in fact, part of the cartoon character design)?
Wait a sec, we see the sled in the cartoon?
Only in the veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery first episode, for one scene, and only for Ratchet, who then never uses it ever again.
It's not even part of their character models either, and likewise barely appears once (for both characters) in the Marvel comics.
Would look just as gray since Ratchet was already dead well before that scene.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: (which is, in fact, part of the cartoon character design)?
Wait a sec, we see the sled in the cartoon?
Only in the veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery first episode, for one scene, and only for Ratchet, who then never uses it ever again.
It's not even part of their character models either, and likewise barely appears once (for both characters) in the Marvel comics.
You know what'd be interesting? 86 Optimus death scene, but he passes away on Ratchet's med sled.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Would look just as gray since Ratchet was already dead well before that scene.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: (which is, in fact, part of the cartoon character design)?
Wait a sec, we see the sled in the cartoon?
Only in the veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery first episode, for one scene, and only for Ratchet, who then never uses it ever again.
It's not even part of their character models either, and likewise barely appears once (for both characters) in the Marvel comics.
You know what'd be interesting? 86 Optimus death scene, but he passes away on Ratchet's med sled.
SpaceEagle wrote:I do think it would be cute having their sleds included, even if the van mode didn't require it all for transformation. The Masterpiece toys of both Ratchet and Ironhide included it and it was also neat how it held all their accessories.
Would probably bump up Ironhide into "Leader class" if this one is already "Voyager class", but it would be a nice little playset. Maybe it can even transform into a lil camper for them to tow in vehicle mode to add some extra functionality. Kids would probably dig it too.
primalxconvoy wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:I do think it would be cute having their sleds included, even if the van mode didn't require it all for transformation. The Masterpiece toys of both Ratchet and Ironhide included it and it was also neat how it held all their accessories.
Would probably bump up Ironhide into "Leader class" if this one is already "Voyager class", but it would be a nice little playset. Maybe it can even transform into a lil camper for them to tow in vehicle mode to add some extra functionality. Kids would probably dig it too.
The MP didn't include the full platforms, as they omitted the raised legs and tracked wheels. It was more of an after-thought.
primalxconvoy wrote:They could have even used his roof kibble to make the sled, which would have reduced the hassle in incorporating more gumf into the robot modes, but Bakara decided to go "full-anime", as they usually have these days, bless their little idiotic cotton socks.
primalxconvoy wrote:They could have even used his roof kibble to make the sled, which would have reduced the hassle in incorporating more gumf into the robot modes, but Bakara decided to go "full-anime", as they usually have these days, bless their little idiotic cotton socks.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, I'd wager that there's a lot more fans of Ironhide's cartoon/comic look out there than there are fans of his original 1984 Diaclone mold toy look.
SpaceEagle wrote:I still personally say the best of both worlds is just to have an Ironhide that fully transforms into a Onebox and has a separate sled component that can turn into something the van can tow. Like old Classics 'Bee did!
That way kids probably have something fun, fans get a callback, and all of the above don't have to wonder why their transforming robot toy needs to have a chunk taken off to complete the look.
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:I still personally say the best of both worlds is just to have an Ironhide that fully transforms into a Onebox and has a separate sled component that can turn into something the van can tow. Like old Classics 'Bee did!
That way kids probably have something fun, fans get a callback, and all of the above don't have to wonder why their transforming robot toy needs to have a chunk taken off to complete the look.
Kind of makes sense, but why would a van have a trailer?
SpaceEagle wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:I still personally say the best of both worlds is just to have an Ironhide that fully transforms into a Onebox and has a separate sled component that can turn into something the van can tow. Like old Classics 'Bee did!
That way kids probably have something fun, fans get a callback, and all of the above don't have to wonder why their transforming robot toy needs to have a chunk taken off to complete the look.
Kind of makes sense, but why would a van have a trailer?
Because the back's already filled up with robot arms!
primalxconvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, I'd wager that there's a lot more fans of Ironhide's cartoon/comic look out there than there are fans of his original 1984 Diaclone mold toy look.
And I would wager that there even more fans that want both, or wouldn't be put-off by extra parts. More choice is always a good thing. Having a partsforming extra part wouldn't detract from the look.
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