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News Credits: 1646 · Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:43 pm

Death of '84

News Credits: 17 · Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:50 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Death of '84

Do your effects parts plug into Ironhide securely? Mine do not, though I can pull off some poses using gravity and a little friction.

I wish they'd used the Earthrise mold since that had 3mm posts, but I get why they did what they did.

News Credits: 1646 · Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:59 pm

AcademyofDrX wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Death of '84

Do your effects parts plug into Ironhide securely? Mine do not, though I can pull off some poses using gravity and a little friction.

I wish they'd used the Earthrise mold since that had 3mm posts, but I get why they did what they did.

Mine hold fast yes. The middle piece on Prowl does not like to peg into 5mm ports, but otherwise it holds good

Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:20 pm

I know this phrase gets thrown around all the time but this really looks like a mini masterpiece with all the articulation and everything. The back has a similar mold same ankle rockers same matrix chamber, the rear skirt actually looks much better and I don’t think I could get my masterpiece to take a knee like that photo very impressive!

News Credits: 10 · Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:33 pm

Emerje wrote:Well Ultra Magnus is just as bad as I feared he would be. So much for scale. No regrets not ordering him.

Sabrblade wrote:

I DEMAND a movie accurate bipedal Slug figure now. You really made my day with these screen shots, I somehow never noticed this after all these years. It's just hilarious that the animators somehow had never seen a triceratops before and decided Slag walked around on two legs now. And then when they're all escaping even Sludge gets up and runs off on his back legs.

Emerje

I hate the out of scale-ness of Ultra Magnus, but honestly, he's a bit too big even as MP-22. The thing is, people want too much from Ultra Magnus figures...pretty much always - either he has to have a white Prime interior, or has to be able to carry cars like the Powered Convoy toy, or he has to do both.

The way I see it, he has to be a bit bigger to accomodate the more than 40 year old gimmick to assuage all the people who supposed hate the WFC versions because it didn't carry cars. Then, don't even get me started on the ridiculous 3rd party leg extensions to make him taller.

I'm going to get this one (because, well, it's Ultra Magnus and I'm me), but I'll have to live with him being a bit out of scale. I do feel like with Mark and Evan we're slowly getting more and more incorrectly scaled figures, starting with Blaster and coming soon to a toy store near you, an incorrectly "up to Blaster" scaled Soundwave that Maher has mentioned TWICE. I'm aware there is a bit of flexibility in the sizes, but it's like centimeters, not inches.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:43 pm

Why are people so hung up on scale when the cartoon literally had bigger bots going into smaller bots' vehicle modes...

Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:44 pm

Personally I think they should've included a buggy based off of the original Diaclone release and made it an official Transformer here!

Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:46 pm

Rtron wrote:Why are people so hung up on scale when the cartoon literally had bigger bots going into smaller bots' vehicle modes...

Scale has normally been inconsistent, though I s'pose for a series touting "screen accuracy" I can see fans at least hoping he'd match the size shown in the good ol' 80's film.
(I'm not a scale nut myself, BUT this bigger UM with articulated fingers means he can happily grasp, say, the NewAge Constructicons to reference that classic scene where they're teeny tiny!)

News Credits: 10 · Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:52 pm

Hey, Hastak said they're doing scale, I expect scale. They only gave me what I always wanted, but they did it not me.

Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:54 am

Curious, as it's been a long time, but did Magnus ever actually carry any cars in his trailer?
if so then I can understand some people's want for this to be translated into toy form. Since I wouldn't even be utilizing this feature it IMO would be a waste to pay extra to have it. Which is why I'm perfectly content with Kingdom UM and see no reason to "upgrade" if you will. I'm happy for anyone who needs this Ultimate Ultra Magnus though! It's nice to have options to suit various collecting needs/wants.

News Credits: 462 · Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:28 am

Till-all-R1 wrote:Curious, as it's been a long time, but did Magnus ever actually carry any cars in his trailer?

Off the top of my head, he did in this commercial bumper:

News Credits: 101 · Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:19 pm

If SS86 Commander Ultra Magnus do have all 4 libs attached by Combiner Wars connectors, and if he can carry 4 deluxe CW cars in his trailer, we could make a "Combiner Wars" Ultra Magnus "combiner." :-?

News Credits: 9 · Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:58 pm

I don’t love that this new Magnus will be taller and even out-bulk the Dinobots.
But in the grand scheme, with what I consider such a substantial imrovement, it’s by no means a deal-breaker, and I would assume this would be the case for many.
If someone isn’t completely content with either of the previous versions, and the cost isn’t going to be an issue, why not?
Outside of scale, this is hands-down the best version in terms of appearance. Of both modes.

Here’s a thought I’ve had.
There’s rumor of a new leader class Springer, right?
Say he ends up being slightly taller than the most recent Prime figures…
Well it seems likely that a new Prime is bound to happen in the next couple years.
So if UM, Springer (who is supposed to be as big as Prime), and Optimus all get slightly larger figures, I still see that working fine with all of the other figures of characters that are supposed to be smaller than those 3. Compared to them, the minibots will appear smaller and probably more in scale.
The same can be said if Soundwave gets a slightly larger figure.
Then to follow suit of these larger figures, the next Megatron would also be slightly increased in size.

News Credits: 10 · Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:03 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Till-all-R1 wrote:Curious, as it's been a long time, but did Magnus ever actually carry any cars in his trailer?
Off the top of my head, he did in this commercial bumper:

And in the toy commercial. Never on the the cartoon proper.

News Credits: 10 · Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:08 pm

Sowndwave76 wrote:Compared to them, the minibots will appear smaller and probably more in scale.
The same can be said if Soundwave gets a slightly larger figure.
Then to follow suit of these larger figures, the next Megatron would also be slightly increased in size.

Except the mini-bots are in cartoon scale now. They won't look "more right" if Soundwave, Optimus and Megatron get bigger, they just may not look "wrong."

Also -

News Credits: 9 · Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:25 pm

sol magnus wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Compared to them, the minibots will appear smaller and probably more in scale.
The same can be said if Soundwave gets a slightly larger figure.
Then to follow suit of these larger figures, the next Megatron would also be slightly increased in size.

Except the mini-bots are in cartoon scale now. They won't look "more right" if Soundwave, Optimus and Megatron get bigger, they just may not look "wrong."

The current scales don’t bother me, but if you look at scale charts, the minibots are bigger than they should be in figure form. At least most of them, and it is a substantial difference from what we have with these toys.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:58 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:If SS86 Commander Ultra Magnus do have all 4 libs attached by Combiner Wars connectors, and if he can carry 4 deluxe CW cars in his trailer, we could make a "Combiner Wars" Ultra Magnus "combiner."

Unfortunately that's impossible, Magnus has the limb pegs on the torso rather than the ports.

Emerje

News Credits: 101 · Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:19 pm

Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:If SS86 Commander Ultra Magnus do have all 4 libs attached by Combiner Wars connectors, and if he can carry 4 deluxe CW cars in his trailer, we could make a "Combiner Wars" Ultra Magnus "combiner."

Unfortunately that's impossible, Magnus has the limb pegs on the torso rather than the ports.

Emerje

Damn.

Still, I do have a scrap CW torso on hand so I can create 4 adapters and make my Magnus "Combiner" regardless. [-(

Compared to what I often show in my sig, making combiner adapters will be an easy task.

News Credits: 9 · Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:23 pm

Interesting to me that this new Magnus doesn’t look to have a complicated transformation.
And that’s the opposite of a complaint.
If the conversion is quick and easy, imo that’s a pro x 100.
To think that could mean fewer joints that end up floppy, less chances of stress marks, and at least somewhat of an increased chance he’ll be fun to transform, in turn meaning he’ll be transformed more often.
Usually that wouldn’t matter to me…. But when paying $85+, that factors in more.
All this to say, I never loved this character, but this figure seems to be very, very on point.

I do think it’s fair to say, especially as a Commander Class figure, this is going to legitimately earn the label of being a mini masterpiece.

Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:45 am

I wouldn't be opposed to a new Soundwave that's on par with Blaster. I'm not really interested in a new taller Prime or Springer even if it might scale better with the minibots, since in reality Prime should be another 2-3" taller to scale better with BB. Problem is once you do that pretty much all the Bots need to be resized/rescaled and I'm not interested in replacing everything I just spent the last three years acquiring.

News Credits: 9 · Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:26 am

Till-all-R1 wrote:I wouldn't be opposed to a new Soundwave that's on par with Blaster. I'm not really interested in a new taller Prime or Springer even if it might scale better with the minibots, since in reality Prime should be another 2-3" taller to scale better with BB. Problem is once you do that pretty much all the Bots need to be resized/rescaled and I'm not interested in replacing everything I just spent the last three years acquiring.

That was part of my point—

Taller, bigger characters could stand to be so, and it wouldn’t then require that every smaller bot is redone at a slightly larger size.
Again, I really appreciate every newer minibot being a deluxe, because it helps make each of those figures better, probably in multiple regards.
But if the largest bots are just slightly bigger, it actually aids in the overall scheme of scale amongst these figures.
I initially thought increasing the larger characters would make some of the voyagers too small, but I really don’t think that’s the case.
From what I’ve seen, Blaster, Inferno, Grapple, Trailbreaker, and even Astrotrain and Blitzwing are all shorter than OP and Megatron.

In fact, in terms of scale, I think a new OP is necessary; he’s too small compared to the Dinobots.
Which is why I was so against Swoop being a voyager.

Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:37 am

Maybe not "all" of them would, but certainly Ironhide/Ratchet would need to be. And once you do tat you also need to adjust some of the midsize cars because currently they are the ones that are no longer in scale with the new minibots nor are they to scale with the current larger bots.

News Credits: 1646 · Sat Aug 12, 2023 12:05 pm

This corner of my collection is now dedicated to the slaughter of 86, and it's still funny to me

MyFigureCollection.net collection · Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:31 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:If SS86 Commander Ultra Magnus do have all 4 libs attached by Combiner Wars connectors, and if he can carry 4 deluxe CW cars in his trailer, we could make a "Combiner Wars" Ultra Magnus "combiner."

Unfortunately that's impossible, Magnus has the limb pegs on the torso rather than the ports.

Emerje

Damn.

Still, I do have a scrap CW torso on hand so I can create 4 adapters and make my Magnus "Combiner" regardless.

Compared to what I often show in my sig, making combiner adapters will be an easy task.

Assuming they're all compatible. But if they are, alternatively, you can make a massive combiner with Magnus at the center and Voyager limbs. Heck you could have entire combiners with just one arm missing attached to Magnus and really have a combiner made out of combiners like was talked about in the "figures that wont be made" topic recently.

Emerje