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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:15 pm

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Looks really good. glad I skipped Siege and Earthrise entirely.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby SpaceEagle » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:42 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:As long as this comes with a black and white cat, I'll be happy...
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"Transformers Collaborative Postman Pat" would be funny. I remember when Thew Adams had a bootleg transforming figure that became Pat for his Knockoff Beatdown series.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Dominus Prime » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:56 pm

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Major improvement. May not be perfect, but definitely a step in the right direction. Well done
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:14 pm

Geez, I found Sunstreaker so bad in hand that I passed and feel no remorse.

The yellow stripes are something Reprolabels can fix. The mismatching reds ... I dunno why they can't match reds. It's still better than ER, though.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:21 pm

SpaceEagle wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:As long as this comes with a black and white cat, I'll be happy...
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"Transformers Collaborative Postman Pat" would be funny. I remember when Thew Adams had a bootleg transforming figure that became Pat for his Knockoff Beatdown series.


And a Thomas one, if I recall.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Emerje » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:46 pm

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Personally, I find the blue unpainted tab "lights" on the roof more annoying than the side hinges.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:21 am

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Emerje wrote:Personally, I find the blue unpainted tab "lights" on the roof more annoying than the side hinges.

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I'm gonna guess that's where the eventual Ratchet repaint's lights will go. So those might be vestigial.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:38 am

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Emerje wrote:Personally, I find the blue unpainted tab "lights" on the roof more annoying than the side hinges.

Emerje
I'm gonna guess that's where the eventual Ratchet repaint's lights will go. So those might be vestigial.

Pretty sure they're just the tabs used to fold the panels together. If they're only for the future lightbar then they should be painted over.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:42 am

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Emerje wrote:
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Emerje wrote:Personally, I find the blue unpainted tab "lights" on the roof more annoying than the side hinges.

Emerje
I'm gonna guess that's where the eventual Ratchet repaint's lights will go. So those might be vestigial.

Pretty sure they're just the tabs used to fold the panels together. If they're only for the future lightbar then they should be painted over.

Emerje
Agreed. But isn't this Ironhide supposed to be an unfinished copy? I mean, look how bad that whole paint job is.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:12 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Emerje wrote:Personally, I find the blue unpainted tab "lights" on the roof more annoying than the side hinges.

Emerje
I'm gonna guess that's where the eventual Ratchet repaint's lights will go. So those might be vestigial.

Pretty sure they're just the tabs used to fold the panels together. If they're only for the future lightbar then they should be painted over.

Emerje
Agreed. But isn't this Ironhide supposed to be an unfinished copy? I mean, look how bad that whole paint job is.

Some say it is and some say it isn't finished, we're going to have to wait for more examples to know for sure. Hopefully it's another case like ER OP who went through a bunch of different revisions in pretty short time before release.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Barricade.it » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:40 am

Studio Series should be the high quality version line of figures for collectors, but the more it goes on, the more it reveals a delusion and Ironhide does not exceptions.

In the alt mode, those huge hinges on the sides of the van are ugly and - as many others have said - lack of yellow stripes is another issue.

I don't think these figurese are worthy their price.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:05 am

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Barricade.it wrote:Studio Series should be the high quality version line of figures for collectors, but the more it goes on, the more it reveals a delusion and Ironhide does not exceptions.

In the alt mode, those huge hinges on the sides of the van are ugly and - as many others have said - lack of yellow stripes is another issue.

I don't think these figurese are worthy their price.

It's pretty much just a sister line to whatever the Generations maineline except it focuses on Movie characters, end of the day, hasbro still expect kids to get these as well. The only true high quality collector lines are Masterpiece and Movie Masterpiece. Oh, and HasLab.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:21 am

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Barricade.it wrote:Studio Series should be the high quality version line of figures for collectors


No. It's sold at retail in the kids toy aisle. It's just a retail toyline like anything else and the bulk of sales will come from kids/parents. Anyone expecting more will be disappointed.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:08 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Barricade.it wrote:Studio Series should be the high quality version line of figures for collectors


No. It's sold at retail in the kids toy aisle. It's just a retail toyline like anything else and the bulk of sales will come from kids/parents. Anyone expecting more will be disappointed.


Just adding that the only lines that apply to collectors specifically are the Masterpiece lines and the convention exclusives when they were still a thing.

Hell, even the HASLAB toys are for "kids only" according to Hasbro Pulse! :lol:
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:12 am

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Exactly. The MP line is the collector focused series. Hence the superior design and engineering (most of the time).
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More Images of Studio Series 86 Voyager Ironhide Show us his Height

Postby william-james88 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:58 am

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More images of Transformers Studio Series 86 Ironhide were posted on the Cybertron 21 Facebook page.
These give us our best look yet at the figure, especially in robot mode. We also get a sense of his height which does fit the G1 size charts. But remember, he will be sold as voyager class. The alt mode is quite beefy though, compared to deluxes and Hasbro already confirmed that the voyager class is also intended for smaller toys which have more parts. Also, there have bee comments regarding the mismatched paint but it's impossible to tell if the paint is mismatched or not since painted surfaced reflect light differently than non painted surfaces making the contrast far greater when seen in a picture than in hand. So it's too early for any comment of the sort. While there is no listing for a ratchet in this size yet, it is bound to happen, and we know that this Ironhide will not be an exclusive.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby First-Aid » Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:59 am

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sowndwave76 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:01 am

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Just saw a few more bot mode images of this new Ironhide.
This figure is looking better and better…
The windshield (& windows) appear to be a slightly darker transparent blue color, giving them a “tinted” effect that I appreciate. As someone else said, there’s no reason to be able to see into an “interior” of nothing but bot bits.
So now the couple can mode issues really don’t matter to me.

I can now say I’m excited for this figure!!
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:02 am

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The body is definitely better, but I like the head of the ER two-pack better. Thank goodness for balljoints.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:21 am

Seeing the back, it looks like the engineering is quite similar to Siege / ER, even while all the parts look quite different.

Re: quality, I think it's important to remember that SS86 in particular prioritizes bot mode over alt mode. Obvious hinges and other unsightly alt mode features are par for the course. Even so, it's still much more my speed than ER, so I think it counts as an upgrade even at a higher price point.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby -Crossfire- » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:37 am

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I REALLY like how Ironhide looks. Even for his smaller size, he seems chonky, and the decision to make the van roof as part of his legs and feet are something that should have been done with Earthrise, which will certainly help mitigate the price factor a little. I have no intention of actually getting him, since I did a custom Ironhide out of the Deeseus Drone, but I got gypped on Siege Rachet, so I'll definitely pick up the inevitable retool. :-?
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:42 am

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With these new pictures it's clear that the designers went the Kingdom Tigatron route. Take the original deluxe, increase the size a bit, and fix what was "broken".

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:49 am

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So that's incoming updates for Ratchet, Crosshairs, DK-2 Guard and Deseeus Army Drone. The latter three in Selects, I imagine?
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby o.supreme » Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:03 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:With these new pictures it's clear that the designers went the Kingdom Tigatron route. Take the original deluxe, increase the size a bit, and fix what was "broken".

Eh, it work!


Although I do like to.see a comparison with Sure/ER Ironhide. I don't think it's any bigger per day. More detailed, more mass because of a greater parts count, but it still looks like a deluxe taken to the max to try to justify the voyager price. I'm not saying it's bad, just an observation.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:21 am

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o.supreme wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:With these new pictures it's clear that the designers went the Kingdom Tigatron route. Take the original deluxe, increase the size a bit, and fix what was "broken".

Eh, it work!


Although I do like to.see a comparison with Sure/ER Ironhide. I don't think it's any bigger per day. More detailed, more mass because of a greater parts count, but it still looks like a deluxe taken to the max to try to justify the voyager price. I'm not saying it's bad, just an observation.


I don't think it will be taller either. Siege Ironhide reaches WFC Prime about the same
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