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chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Titans Return says hi.chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Titan Return says hi.chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
SS87 would require Hasbro to incorporate TV shows into the line, at which point I would ask why they would need to do specific year branding anymore? Change the sub brand to Studio Series Animated and open it up to all cartoons. I'd personally love some updated Deluxe Predacons from RID.
Emerje
Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
SS87 would require Hasbro to incorporate TV shows into the line, at which point I would ask why they would need to do specific year branding anymore? Change the sub brand to Studio Series Animated and open it up to all cartoons. I'd personally love some updated Deluxe Predacons from RID.
Emerje
Sowndwave76 wrote:Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
SS87 would require Hasbro to incorporate TV shows into the line, at which point I would ask why they would need to do specific year branding anymore? Change the sub brand to Studio Series Animated and open it up to all cartoons. I'd personally love some updated Deluxe Predacons from RID.
Emerje
This type of line, if any, is what I envision replacing SS86.
A subline that continues designs that are as close to characters’ animated appearances as possible.
For one, it’s another landing spot for re-uses of molds with altered decos, and possible slight retooling.
Second, it’s pretty clear these screen-accurate figures sell. I know SS86 Arcee was pegged as a shelf-warmer, but I personally can’t claim that was the case in my area. In fact, I can’t say that about any SS86 figure other than Coronation Starscream.
I remember there were a couple times I was about to start considering Blurr, and Buzzworthy Kup peg warmers, and looking back now, that wasn’t the case for either. And in the grand scheme, neither was even close.
The two SS86 Blasters and one Snarl I saw at my Target this past Sunday were all gone less than 12 hrs later. Now that I’m thinking about it, it was roughly less than 8 hrs.
Now, I’m not sure how important screen accuracy is to those fans of different series, but for G1, it’s a pretty big deal, & Hastak is well aware of this fact.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:And therein lies the issue. It's just too much. How many series now have they run? And we are already getting Cyberverse Legaxy figure...that was just like 2 years ago! How is that "Legacy"? I think they will continue with how they are doing it now and once SS86 ends, it will just end. The rabbit hole is just too big.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Once SS86 end, the rest of the G1 characters will continue in the Generations line, as they are currently being made.
SS Gamers will continue for a while but it too, will come to an end.
And after all that, maybe, just maybe, the rest of the AoE Dinobots will finally be made!
Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
SS87 would require Hasbro to incorporate TV shows into the line, at which point I would ask why they would need to do specific year branding anymore? Change the sub brand to Studio Series Animated and open it up to all cartoons. I'd personally love some updated Deluxe Predacons from RID.
Emerje
Overcracker wrote:Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
SS87 would require Hasbro to incorporate TV shows into the line, at which point I would ask why they would need to do specific year branding anymore? Change the sub brand to Studio Series Animated and open it up to all cartoons. I'd personally love some updated Deluxe Predacons from RID.
Emerje
Isn't that what all these Generations lines are for?
They can totally make a sub line for Animation accurate repaints, but extending Studio series beyond the 1986 movie to include tv shows seems disingenuous at best.
I mean, how long before Legacy or whatever follows gives us a CC Energon Optimus Prime. It's the only one missing from the Unicorn Trilogy now and the trailer and Prime units definitely require the extra CC budget.
Till-all-R1 wrote:The main line's name pretty much describes it all inclusive nature doesn't it? "Legacy" to me means everything under the IP so I see no issue why most of the animated shows and games could just remain under that title.
SS86 was created for a specific reason and we all know why, but I've yet to see a brand new sculpt released into that subline. Ironhide is basically a retool of the ER figure so technically not "new". Hence the "Generations" subline coming into play which consists of repaints ore retools. Right?
Emerje wrote:Overcracker wrote:Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
SS87 would require Hasbro to incorporate TV shows into the line, at which point I would ask why they would need to do specific year branding anymore? Change the sub brand to Studio Series Animated and open it up to all cartoons. I'd personally love some updated Deluxe Predacons from RID.
Emerje
Isn't that what all these Generations lines are for?
The "main line" (people forget Studio Series is also Generations, it's on the top right of ever box) is for whatever narrative the Transformers team decides to put together and slap random figures into. It doesn't promise any kind of faithfulness to any designs, especially non-G1 lines. A SS line would is supposed to be the ones that is more cartoon faithful though not necessarily a slavish attention to detail (looking at you Hot Rod).They can totally make a sub line for Animation accurate repaints, but extending Studio series beyond the 1986 movie to include tv shows seems disingenuous at best.
I think we went way past that when they started doing video games and hinted at the possibility of comic books. They've basically said if it can be produced in a studio then it can be in Studio Series which doesn't leave a whole lot off the table.
Emerje wrote:I mean, how long before Legacy or whatever follows gives us a CC Energon Optimus Prime. It's the only one missing from the Unicorn Trilogy now and the trailer and Prime units definitely require the extra CC budget.
I think Hasbro is still OK with some overlap between the main line and SS. With all the cartoon repaints we've seen of WFC figures we still haven't seen them try to do another Cyclonus for Studio Series, just like we're owed a Targetmaster Scourge to go with Targetmaster Cyclonus.
And we're technically still due a Cybertron Optimus Prime, too. The one from Siege was an upgraded G1 Optimus Prime and isn't all that faithful to the original figure, just shares some features.
Emerje
but I've yet to see a brand new sculpt released into that subline. Ironhide is basically a retool of the ER figure so technically not "new". Hence the "Generations" subline coming into play which consists of repaints ore retools. Right?
Overcracker wrote:Emerje wrote:Overcracker wrote:Emerje wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do we think about the possibility once SS86 ends that it rolls over into Studio Series 87 with new molds of the Headmasters and Targetmasters? The following year could be Studio Series 88 with Powermasters and Pretenders, so on and so forth.
SS87 would require Hasbro to incorporate TV shows into the line, at which point I would ask why they would need to do specific year branding anymore? Change the sub brand to Studio Series Animated and open it up to all cartoons. I'd personally love some updated Deluxe Predacons from RID.
Emerje
Isn't that what all these Generations lines are for?
The "main line" (people forget Studio Series is also Generations, it's on the top right of ever box) is for whatever narrative the Transformers team decides to put together and slap random figures into. It doesn't promise any kind of faithfulness to any designs, especially non-G1 lines. A SS line would is supposed to be the ones that is more cartoon faithful though not necessarily a slavish attention to detail (looking at you Hot Rod).They can totally make a sub line for Animation accurate repaints, but extending Studio series beyond the 1986 movie to include tv shows seems disingenuous at best.
I think we went way past that when they started doing video games and hinted at the possibility of comic books. They've basically said if it can be produced in a studio then it can be in Studio Series which doesn't leave a whole lot off the table.
But isn't that what they are already doing? They just took a bunch of Legacy and WFC molds gave them new animation paint jobs and released them in a gift set. Why does it need to be under the SS banner? If they just do the animation accurate repaints in the normal line.
Emerje wrote:I mean, how long before Legacy or whatever follows gives us a CC Energon Optimus Prime. It's the only one missing from the Unicorn Trilogy now and the trailer and Prime units definitely require the extra CC budget.
I think Hasbro is still OK with some overlap between the main line and SS. With all the cartoon repaints we've seen of WFC figures we still haven't seen them try to do another Cyclonus for Studio Series, just like we're owed a Targetmaster Scourge to go with Targetmaster Cyclonus.
And we're technically still due a Cybertron Optimus Prime, too. The one from Siege was an upgraded G1 Optimus Prime and isn't all that faithful to the original figure, just shares some features.
Emerje
One can argue it's not quite the same level of involvement as Armada was, but in general it does most of what the original did and can still wait a bit before another update. Energon, seems to be Primed for a remake, considering outside of the Decepticons, there's no way for them to recreate the powerlinx gimmick today and no way to release designs from that line anyway. I mean I would kill for a leader class Cyb Megatron / Galvatron Batmobile .
I mean they could just create a SS-Animation sub-line if that's the direction they want to go in, but All I can see for a while there, are re-releases of the titan masters in more animation accurate decos. Don't see them doing Pretenders or Action Masters which would be the next lines to tackle in that vein.
Or simply a reissue. That original mold was so brilliant any modern update couldn't hope to hold a candle to it.-Kanrabat- wrote:About that Seige Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime, having the original I just couldn't stand that Siege version.
But as Legacy Sentinel Prime, it's perfect.
Cybertron Optimus Prime deserves a Commander update for real.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Or simply a reissue. That original mold was so brilliant any modern update couldn't hope to hold a candle to it.-Kanrabat- wrote:About that Seige Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime, having the original I just couldn't stand that Siege version.
But as Legacy Sentinel Prime, it's perfect.
Cybertron Optimus Prime deserves a Commander update for real.
Sabrblade wrote:Or simply a reissue. That original mold was so brilliant any modern update couldn't hope to hold a candle to it.-Kanrabat- wrote:About that Seige Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime, having the original I just couldn't stand that Siege version.
But as Legacy Sentinel Prime, it's perfect.
Cybertron Optimus Prime deserves a Commander update for real.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Even in his base robot mode, Optimus was one of the larger Autobots in the Cybertron cartoon.
And when he met RID Optimus in the Cybertron comics, the two were about the same in height in their respective base robot modes, and we can expect the base robot mode of HasLab RID Optimus to be a pretty big figure, so the original Cybertron Optimus would scale well to that figure.
Either that, or the made him so big so that Ultra Magnus would also be large enough in vehicle mode to accommodate modern-day Deluxes in his car carrier.Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Even in his base robot mode, Optimus was one of the larger Autobots in the Cybertron cartoon.
And when he met RID Optimus in the Cybertron comics, the two were about the same in height in their respective base robot modes, and we can expect the base robot mode of HasLab RID Optimus to be a pretty big figure, so the original Cybertron Optimus would scale well to that figure.
They never really gave a good excuse for making RID Prime taller when they've been such big sticklers on keeping all their Primes relatively close in height. I'm convinced, knowing what we know now, that they made him so big so they wouldn't have to do him again in MPG.
Emerje
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Either that, or the made him so big so that Ultra Magnus would also be large enough in vehicle mode to accommodate modern-day Deluxes in his car carrier.Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Even in his base robot mode, Optimus was one of the larger Autobots in the Cybertron cartoon.
And when he met RID Optimus in the Cybertron comics, the two were about the same in height in their respective base robot modes, and we can expect the base robot mode of HasLab RID Optimus to be a pretty big figure, so the original Cybertron Optimus would scale well to that figure.
They never really gave a good excuse for making RID Prime taller when they've been such big sticklers on keeping all their Primes relatively close in height. I'm convinced, knowing what we know now, that they made him so big so they wouldn't have to do him again in MPG.
Emerje
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