Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Two days short of a year old.
Megatron000 wrote:Goku. How is this even a debate?
zenosaurus_x wrote:Goku's got a massive speed disadvantage
BeastProwl wrote:I think what it would eventually come down to is stamina/energy use.
Does Superman have an energy limit? To many eye lasers and he poops out? Because Goku has a limit, though he rarely exceeds it unless it's necessary.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
BeastProwl wrote:zenosaurus_x wrote:Goku's got a massive speed disadvantage
Instant Transmission is basically teleportation. though it does have a base speed. How fast can superman go anyway?
He also trained under 100X earth's normal gravity at one point, so speed isn't a problem.
Of course, that might not be saying much, since vegeta pushed around 450/500.
I think what it would eventually come down to is stamina/energy use.
Does Superman have an energy limit? To many eye lasers and he poops out? Because Goku has a limit, though he rarely exceeds it unless it's necessary.
zenosaurus_x wrote:(and Superman's not likely to try and blitz him before he can do it, because that's not how Superman is)
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:It's a lesson many villains learn the hard way.
zenosaurus_x wrote:Broly's ending was so irksome...they weren't able to land a single punch on Broly (except Vegeta and it did nothing), and yet gathering energy from already beat up people equals one hit death punch? What the heck.
Then they made it worse by making a TERRIBLE sequel. Ugh, waste of life on that one.
He blew up a galaxy, and that's when he was weaker.
zenosaurus_x wrote:As for the sequel, well it was basically only made to pander to Broly's popularity. Broly exploded. There is no way he should've survived. It happened only for money.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
zenosaurus_x wrote:BeastProwl wrote:zenosaurus_x wrote:Goku's got a massive speed disadvantage
Instant Transmission is basically teleportation. though it does have a base speed. How fast can superman go anyway?
Depends. His speed is largely inconsistent, but it ranges from lightspeed to millions of times it apparently. Even in the old movie he was fast enough to go back in time. Goku is around Mach 1,000 last I checked though with IT that changes things.
The problem with IT is it moves you towards someone because you have to lock onto their spirit. It's certainly useful (and Superman's not likely to try and blitz him before he can do it, because that's not how Superman is) it's just also potentially very dangerous.He also trained under 100X earth's normal gravity at one point, so speed isn't a problem.
Of course, that might not be saying much, since vegeta pushed around 450/500.
I think what it would eventually come down to is stamina/energy use.
Does Superman have an energy limit? To many eye lasers and he poops out? Because Goku has a limit, though he rarely exceeds it unless it's necessary.
Unsure on this one, but what Shadowman said sounds about right. Saiyan strength is mainly in the ranged attacks though, they are pretty strong physically it just wasn't showcased as much to give us a good idea of where they're at.
Shadowman wrote:zenosaurus_x wrote:As for the sequel, well it was basically only made to pander to Broly's popularity. Broly exploded. There is no way he should've survived. It happened only for money.
You still think death applies in DBZ? It's a suggestion at best. Goku was vaporized by Cell, that didn't seem to slow him down. Frieza had a planet blow up in his face, and he came back with just a little help from cybernetic enhancements. Cell blew up twice, once by choice, and he's currently in hell, but otherwise perfectly fine.
d_sel1 wrote:Zenosaurus_x actually you actually mentioned a method for Superman to win. In 70s cartoons, Superman could move fast enough for time travel rather easily (Flash and Green Lantern could do it too). So, if Superman has too trouble with Goku in the present, he always go back in time for a do over! If somehow the Earth or Lois Lane was destroyed by Goku on accident, Superman may snap and go way out of character and attack Goku as a baby.
BeastProwl wrote:Wow, I actually pegged you as someone who never watched the series.
d_sel1 wrote:If somehow the Earth or Lois Lane was destroyed by Goku on accident, Superman may snap and go way out of character and attack Goku as a baby.
BeastProwl wrote:Oh, and if you travel back in time in the DBZ Universe, and kill someone, it only kills them in THAT universe, not your own, so time travel is a moot point.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
BeastProwl wrote:Ok, so were all in agreement here? Goku FTW?
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:BeastProwl wrote:Wow, I actually pegged you as someone who never watched the series.
Yeah, I was a huge fan way back when it was still on Toonami.d_sel1 wrote:If somehow the Earth or Lois Lane was destroyed by Goku on accident, Superman may snap and go way out of character and attack Goku as a baby.
Oh, yeah, absolutely not. I know I said you shouldn't assume things about Superman but he is certainly not one to go back in time and attack a baby because his girlfriend was hurt by accident.BeastProwl wrote:Oh, and if you travel back in time in the DBZ Universe, and kill someone, it only kills them in THAT universe, not your own, so time travel is a moot point.
Yeah, DBZ's time travel rules state you can't change the timeline, you just make a new one.
BeastProwl wrote:Ok, first of all, a quote from Goku himself, when Vegeta blew up a whole crowd of people: "Shame on you. Taking innocent lives is something I just cant condone"
He's said that line so many times during DBZ, it's like his catchphrase. There isnt a snowball's chance in hell that he'd blow up planet earth, just to piss off another man, who is just as much a good guy as he is. Like I said, this would likely boil down to both of them just wanting to see who was stronger. That's what saiyans want. A challenge. And Superman may oblige, afterall, its just a fight, and no one's getting harmed, so why the hell not?
Also, he wouldnt want to kill goku. Thats just not whats up here. Like I said, a ffight, thats all. Hell, it could even take place in The World Martial Arts Tournament. Superman just decides "Yeah, I think I'll participate for the fun of it, I'll take it easy on them, and donate the prize money to charity" or something. But then he runs into goku, and one thing leads to another.
There are countless scenarios here, but I doubt any of them would result in one wanting to kill the other, ESPECIALLY on goku's part. Goku's been known to even give his opponents the advantage in some cases, just to make it more fun.
So in short, its just a fight.
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