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News Credits: 14 · Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:54 am

I love a good necro!

Can you post us all a few pics of your proto classics, maybe in this thread or over in the Awesome Poses thread?

Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:06 am

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People have been arguing about how legit this is for how long now? Didn't news of this being an official release hit like a few months ago at least?

News Credits: 14 · Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:52 am

Bowspearer wrote:??????????????????????????????????????????

People have been arguing about how legit this is for how long now? Didn't news of this being an official release hit like a few months ago at least?

Am I right in saying it was the United/Asia version with the white legs?

Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:46 am

robotmel wrote:
Bowspearer wrote:??????????????????????????????????????????

People have been arguing about how legit this is for how long now? Didn't news of this being an official release hit like a few months ago at least?

Am I right in saying it was the United/Asia version with the white legs?

Prexactly

News Credits: 62 · Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:58 am

Which also proves I was correct to begin with and the item is legit and everyone who doubted me is wrong.

Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:43 am

xyl360 wrote:Aha, so this may not be fake after all.

It wouldn't (couldn't) be a Henkei release though, and that's why I questioned it.

If it were released by Takara today (or in the future), it would be under the United (or whatever they choose to call it next ) line.

That would be cool if they did. There's still more than a few CC upgrade sets around for reasonable prices.

Ok, I need ot pull you up on this. When people uncover a Universe or RTS or Generations design that's upcoming and call it "Classics", would you dispute it because someone wasn't pedantically naming what the line was being called at that time, or would you just accept it for what it was - the general term for the whole of CHUG being used? If so then where do you draw the line? Do you, for example, dismiss the legitimacy of an upcoming figure for say Classics or Universe because someone didn't say Classics [2.0] or Universe [2.0]? At such point is such a pedantic approach even remotely productive? If your answer is yes, I would be very interested to hear just exactly what your reasoning is.

News Credits: 15 · Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:56 am

Bowspearer wrote:When people uncover a Universe or RTS or Generations design that's upcoming and call it "Classics", would you dispute it because someone wasn't pedantically naming what the line was being called at that time,

Henkei and United are two different toylines. It's like questioning the use of "First Edition Ripclaw" instead of "Beast Hunters Ripclaw." Yes, they're both part a series of successive toylines, but they're two different toylines nonetheless.

Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:02 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:
Bowspearer wrote:When people uncover a Universe or RTS or Generations design that's upcoming and call it "Classics", would you dispute it because someone wasn't pedantically naming what the line was being called at that time,

Henkei and United are two different toylines. It's like questioning the use of "First Edition Ripclaw" instead of "Beast Hunters Ripclaw." Yes, they're both part a series of successive toylines, but they're two different toylines nonetheless.

And you've actually proven my point for me. Supposing it was say, Ripclaw in this case and someone claimed it was a PRiD release, wouldn't the smart thing to do to be to question exactly which line it belongs to rather than question its legitimacy completely (particularly when the lines are both sublines of the same larger, overarching toyline - eg TFP:FE, PRiD and BH are all ultimately sublines of Transformers Prime)?

News Credits: 62 · Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:11 pm

at the time when I Received this figure I assumed it was Henkei due to the chrome parts. It has since been released as United. Not arguing that just that the figure was legit to begin with and it is nice everyone can nab a Takara version and I really prefer this deco to the Hasbro version.