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[o.supreme]

besides the fact that they were still trying to figure it out AFTER the first 2 were released, the design itself seems off.

So they designers didn't start with Raiden being the end goal?!

Raiden has always been part of the design. It's just that making the individual train modes for model train enthusiasts in Japan seems to have been the priority (again this is all fan conjecture, nothing has been stated anyone at TT as far as I am aware).

I'm sure however when it is all said and done it will be quite the accomplishment.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

besides the fact that they were still trying to figure it out AFTER the first 2 were released, the design itself seems off.

So they designers didn't start with Raiden being the end goal?!

Raiden has always been part of the design. It's just that making the individual train modes for model train enthusiasts in Japan seems to have been the priority (again this is all fan conjecture, nothing has been stated anyone at TT as far as I am aware).

I'm sure however when it is all said and done it will be quite the accomplishment.

Also keep in mind that whatever is drawn on paper or modeled in CAD may not always work out the way they're supposed to in real life, so tweaks are made "on the go".

[o.supreme]

DHL just delivered....

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Damn, mine still hasn't shipped yet

[chuckdawg1999]

Unfortunately, my order for MPG 3 got canceled and I can't find another order at the PO price so I'm out. I'll be looking to dump the first two at some point.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

That's a bummer. Train Bot 3 arrived earlier this week and my OH says it is the best one yet. Not as much troublesome clear plastic. Oddly I'm struggling to find any online (English) reviews for this one? Maybe a larger supply issue??

[o.supreme]

I believe the more prominent reviewers probably have theirs now. TBH, this was the first one I tried Transform on my own without a tutorial, and I still got stuck, even when using Google translate for the instructions. It feels solid, but I definitely don't want to break anything. So he sits about half transformed at the moment. I figure the usual suspects like emgo will have something within the next week.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Oh yes, the feedback I received definitely mentioned "fiddly" a lot, during the transformation. Which I thought seemed the price you pay when going for a more "realistic" streamlined altmode.

[o.supreme]

For a certainty, its one of the main reasons I'm not into Masterpiece as a general rule. But I've wanted the Trainbots forever, and they actually scale better with Generations than MP. If however, solid Generations Trainbots ever were to be made, I'd sell these MPG's without hesitation.

[o.supreme]

I had some spare time, so I decided to try again and finish transforming Yukikaze on my own. Those legs are a PAIN.... Also speaking of legs, now that we have both Legs to Raiden, they transform very differently, so dont hope that you can use Getsuei to learn how to Transform Yukikaze. There are a couple of foot parts that are similar, but these are truly unique in pretty much every fashion.

Also now that we have Raiden's head I decided to try Shouki's combine mode, which thankfully, wasn't that difficult, and aside from the legs on the back, everything holds together pretty well. I'm certain that once Raiden is combined, this will be the most expensive posable statue I own.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

I'm certain that once Raiden is combined, this will be the most expensive posable statue I own.

That's always been a sticking point for me, getting into other potential MP Gestalts. I find it a pain to go back and forth transforming individual MP Bots. If I had say, MP Bruticus. In that combined form the Masterpiece Combaticons would remain.

[o.supreme]

Definitely, as combiner teams are my favorite aspect of the Transformers as whole, I'm not eager to see more MP combiners. They are well developed, but ultimately too complex at MP scale. Thankfully my UW/CW/PotP cover almost all bases. So if TT ever did attempt any of the more popular teams, I'd have no temptation because I already own them. But if TT tried MPG of any of the Combiners mentioned in my signature, before we got proper Generations versions, I'd probably be getting them again regrettably. Hopefully that dosen't happen.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Yeah. I think that's why Raiden was a good call as both the first and potentially only MP Gestalt. The uniformity of the altmodes keeps the development/manufacturing costs down. While at the same time, Raiden had no "rival" that some of the fanbase would ask for upon their completion. I was one of those for years asking why Scorponok didn't immediately follow TR Fortress Maximus. Why there is still no MP Galvatron or Blaster to accompany MP Rodimus Prime and Soundwave, respectively.

Then again, even as a Masterpiece. Some combiners would still look Awful IE Menasor, Computron etc

[o.supreme]

Unfortunately, my order for MPG 3 got canceled and I can't find another order at the PO price so I'm out. I'll be looking to dump the first two at some point.

Not sure if you already started selling, but looks like DeepDiscount actually has some great prices on these.

I've only ever ordered DVD/Blu Rays from them and not had an issue. I cant speak to how reliable they are with toys however (if they are able to keep orders?). I believe for MPG-04 & 05 I think they might even have better prices than Amazon Japan, since the exchange has gone up in the past few months.

https://www.deepdiscount.com/search?q=MPG&mod=AP

[Immortal Starscream]

Just got my yukikaze in too. I think he's the best of the 3 we've gotten so far. He also comes with a booklet that shows some things. does not help the combined mode look better at all sadly. I'm sure somebody will post better cleaner scans of this soon, but for now, heres some pics. besides showing off renders of the last 2 bots, there's also a shot that shows the combiners gun made of 3 smaller weapons.

[chuckdawg1999]

Unfortunately, my order for MPG 3 got canceled and I can't find another order at the PO price so I'm out. I'll be looking to dump the first two at some point.

Not sure if you already started selling, but looks like DeepDiscount actually has some great prices on these.

I've only ever ordered DVD/Blu Rays from them and not had an issue. I cant speak to how reliable they are with toys however (if they are able to keep orders?). I believe for MPG-04 & 05 I think they might even have better prices than Amazon Japan, since the exchange has gone up in the past few months.

https://www.deepdiscount.com/search?q=MPG&mod=AP

Deep discount is who I had my order with and they cancelled it and Skyfire because they're not getting shipment allegedly. Personally I think it was because I complained about them having a hold on my card for 6 months.

[Emerje]

Unfortunately, my order for MPG 3 got canceled and I can't find another order at the PO price so I'm out. I'll be looking to dump the first two at some point.

Not sure if you already started selling, but looks like DeepDiscount actually has some great prices on these.

I've only ever ordered DVD/Blu Rays from them and not had an issue. I cant speak to how reliable they are with toys however (if they are able to keep orders?). I believe for MPG-04 & 05 I think they might even have better prices than Amazon Japan, since the exchange has gone up in the past few months.

https://www.deepdiscount.com/search?q=MPG&mod=AP

Deep discount is who I had my order with and they cancelled it and Skyfire because they're not getting shipment allegedly. Personally I think it was because I complained about them having a hold on my card for 6 months.

They haven't canceled either of those for me, and it would really hurt if they did since I gave up my Jetfire deposit for their better price (still saved even when including the deposit to the total).

Emerje

[chuckdawg1999]

Unfortunately, my order for MPG 3 got canceled and I can't find another order at the PO price so I'm out. I'll be looking to dump the first two at some point.

Not sure if you already started selling, but looks like DeepDiscount actually has some great prices on these.

I've only ever ordered DVD/Blu Rays from them and not had an issue. I cant speak to how reliable they are with toys however (if they are able to keep orders?). I believe for MPG-04 & 05 I think they might even have better prices than Amazon Japan, since the exchange has gone up in the past few months.

https://www.deepdiscount.com/search?q=MPG&mod=AP

Deep discount is who I had my order with and they cancelled it and Skyfire because they're not getting shipment allegedly. Personally I think it was because I complained about them having a hold on my card for 6 months.

They haven't canceled either of those for me, and it would really hurt if they did since I gave up my Jetfire deposit for their better price (still saved even when including the deposit to the total).

Emerje

I'm more concerned about Skyfire, I've tried to order it off Movies Unlimited but because they can't put a hold on the card the order will not go through. I'm probably going to miss out on Skyfire because I will NOT pay $300 for it from Hasbro Pulse.

[o.supreme]

Unfortunately that may be the case. Each company is different. Some charge up front, and some charge at he time the item ships. I purchased a couple DVD sets back in May of 2022 from DD that were supposed to come out in June. They ended up getting delayed until December (from the manufacturer, not DD fault), but DD kept the payment, and shipped them eventually when they were released.

I personally prefer companies to do that, because in my mind the item is already paid for. It would be a pain to hav to fight to get it back if the item ended up getting cancelled, but fortunately that hasn't been an issue. Unlike Pulse or Amazon, you have to plan ahead, because you really never know exactly when they are going to charge you for a pre-order.

[Emerje]

Unfortunately that may be the case. Each company is different. Some charge up front, and some charge at he time the item ships. I purchased a couple DVD sets back in May of 2022 from DD that were supposed to come out in June. They ended up getting delayed until December (from the manufacturer, not DD fault), but DD kept the payment, and shipped them eventually when they were released.

I personally prefer companies to do that, because in my mind the item is already paid for. It would be a pain to hav to fight to get it back if the item ended up getting cancelled, but fortunately that hasn't been an issue. Unlike Pulse or Amazon, you have to plan ahead, because you really never know exactly when they are going to charge you for a pre-order.

Just going to point out that my Skyfire and Yukikaze had a hold put on my debit card for about 5 days and then it went away.

Emerje

[chuckdawg1999]

Unfortunately that may be the case. Each company is different. Some charge up front, and some charge at he time the item ships. I purchased a couple DVD sets back in May of 2022 from DD that were supposed to come out in June. They ended up getting delayed until December (from the manufacturer, not DD fault), but DD kept the payment, and shipped them eventually when they were released.

I personally prefer companies to do that, because in my mind the item is already paid for. It would be a pain to hav to fight to get it back if the item ended up getting cancelled, but fortunately that hasn't been an issue. Unlike Pulse or Amazon, you have to plan ahead, because you really never know exactly when they are going to charge you for a pre-order.

Just going to point out that my Skyfire and Yukikaze had a hold put on my debit card for about 5 days and then it went away.

Emerje

That's what's supposed to happen, I almost fainted when I found out they were holding the charge for 6 months. DD and MU have great prices sometimes but HORRIBLE customer service.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I got Yukikaze tonight, he's pretty solid. Feels like they are already learning some lessons from at least Shouki, especially in the clear plastic quality and quantity. I love his visor too. The way he stores the Raiden head too is hilarious but also ingenious.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Thanks to the Transformers Toy Bar page, we have our first look at the sixth and final Trainbot: Kaen!

Kaen in the final component of Raiden, the result of 2 years of work. Kaen transforms from a workhorse diesel engine into a short and stumpy little robot who is the definition of adorable. He comes with a gun and a lightsaber-esque sword.

Kaen will form the waist of Raiden, filling in the gap between Shouki and the leg bots. The reveal pictures include pictures of Kaen as a waist by himself, and also includes our first proper look at Raiden all combined.

Check out the photos below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

[chuckdawg1999]

It looks good but I've lost interest after missing out on MPG-03. This reminds me I have to sell of 01 and 02.

[Lore Keeper]

I find myself overall please with how Raiden came out. Is he overengineered? Yeah. But, he's got a nice solid build to him, and I love that he ends up scaling well with CHUG figures (Especially since we don't know if/when a CHUG Raiden will ever happen).