The Energon Pub

Cobotron wrote:WOW! That is some high level Photoshop wizardry.

Did anybody already point this out?
That stand that he's on looks like it could be the detachable stock accessory. Yeah?
Maybe combined with the silencer/barrel piece?

I believe he drew it from scratch.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachmen ... .27616129/


Yeah, that does seem like the stock extension now that you mention it.

Cobotron wrote:WOW! That is some high level Photoshop wizardry.

Did anybody already point this out?
That stand that he's on looks like it could be the detachable stock accessory. Yeah?
Maybe combined with the silencer/barrel piece?

Be true!

I hope this is true, because it looks absolutely promising and a vast improvement over MP-05.

By Gerald Parel.

Cyberpath wrote:

By Gerald Parel.

Sweet merciful crap, it's like it's real!!!

He's so great. Just be real.

Something else of notice that I haven't seen anyone mention yet: The robot mode chest is fake altmode kibble. It's not made from either side of the gun mode.

Sabrblade wrote:Something else of notice that I haven't seen anyone mention yet: The robot mode chest is fake altmode kibble. It's not made from either side of the gun mode.

...? Where does it come from?

I would love for this to be real... I've wanted a MP Megatron to stand next to MP Soundwave.
And then I would definitely get MP Shockwave. Those 3 together on a shelf...

I will say I agree the head looks a little too large... Which for me a big deal because it just makes the almost everything else look too small.
But if the face sculpt is on point, I would most likely get this.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Something else of notice that I haven't seen anyone mention yet: The robot mode chest is fake altmode kibble. It's not made from either side of the gun mode.

...? Where does it come from?

Maybe it hides inside the gun's body.

Sabrblade wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:In all honesty? Despotron looks better. This looks a bit too...wimpy. The cannon looks weird, the proportions are all off...Nah thanks.

Megatron wasn't exactly Mr. Macho in the cartoon:



(NOTE: Fan digibash, not mine)

The proportions look pretty close to the onscreen model, closer than any 3rd party attempt I've ever seen. Despotron, Mightron, and Apollyon all look too chunky and bulky. G1 Megatron's look was more streamlined than any of them.

Couldnt agree more. Im really starting to wonder about some of these 3rd party praises over the Takara models. This (possible) Megatron, Ironhide/Ratchet, Shockwave really comes to mind.

Spanbauer wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:I don't understand why the 3P make "MP" of characters that Takara is very likely to make. And somehow all the 3P companies always seem to work on the same characters at the same time. It doesn't bother me I just find it curious. (I'm surprised Takara doesn't do anything about it though. Some of those 3P figures look pretty convincing lately.) And yet none of them attempt to redo Red Alert.

They have inside info on what Takara is going to do. Now that many of the more well known unlicensed product brands have their own MP style ecosystems, they rush and try to get their own product out before the official piece is announced. That's basically all there is to it and why you see these spurts of the same character in the same style being announced by multiple brands.

Anyhow, if this is legit, neat! I need to get that 5G at some point here.

If that is indeed the case, a Takara Trailbreaker maybe next after Grapple.

I realized the other day that Trailbreaker/Hoist are the last 2-for-1 mold left in the '84-'85 roster. After them, all that's left are unique characters that have no retool/repaint opportunities within the fiction itself. That said, I'm not sure if that makes them more or less likely to be next.

Jazz/Stepper Blaster/Broadcast

bigcee66 wrote:

Spanbauer wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:I don't understand why the 3P make "MP" of characters that Takara is very likely to make. And somehow all the 3P companies always seem to work on the same characters at the same time. It doesn't bother me I just find it curious. (I'm surprised Takara doesn't do anything about it though. Some of those 3P figures look pretty convincing lately.) And yet none of them attempt to redo Red Alert.

They have inside info on what Takara is going to do. Now that many of the more well known unlicensed product brands have their own MP style ecosystems, they rush and try to get their own product out before the official piece is announced. That's basically all there is to it and why you see these spurts of the same character in the same style being announced by multiple brands.

Anyhow, if this is legit, neat! I need to get that 5G at some point here.

If that is indeed the case, a Takara Trailbreaker maybe next after Grapple.

I realized the other day that Trailbreaker/Hoist are the last 2-for-1 mold left in the '84-'85 roster. After them, all that's left are unique characters that have no retool/repaint opportunities within the fiction itself. That said, I'm not sure if that makes them more or less likely to be next.

Jazz/Stepper Blaster/Broadcast

2-in-1 in this case means "with alternate heads and parts". Both Blaster and Jazz were indeed retooled for The Headmasters as Twincast and Stepper respectively, but the molds themselves were hardly changed.

with that, we're forgetting one: Skids & Crosscut.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

bigcee66 wrote:

Spanbauer wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:I don't understand why the 3P make "MP" of characters that Takara is very likely to make. And somehow all the 3P companies always seem to work on the same characters at the same time. It doesn't bother me I just find it curious. (I'm surprised Takara doesn't do anything about it though. Some of those 3P figures look pretty convincing lately.) And yet none of them attempt to redo Red Alert.

They have inside info on what Takara is going to do. Now that many of the more well known unlicensed product brands have their own MP style ecosystems, they rush and try to get their own product out before the official piece is announced. That's basically all there is to it and why you see these spurts of the same character in the same style being announced by multiple brands.

Anyhow, if this is legit, neat! I need to get that 5G at some point here.

If that is indeed the case, a Takara Trailbreaker maybe next after Grapple.

I realized the other day that Trailbreaker/Hoist are the last 2-for-1 mold left in the '84-'85 roster. After them, all that's left are unique characters that have no retool/repaint opportunities within the fiction itself. That said, I'm not sure if that makes them more or less likely to be next.

Jazz/Stepper Blaster/Broadcast

2-in-1 in this case means "with alternate heads and parts". Both Blaster and Jazz were indeed retooled for The Headmasters as Twincast and Stepper respectively, but the molds themselves were hardly changed.

with that, we're forgetting one: Skids & Crosscut.

Repaint was also said.

I would love to see some Armada characters get some updates. Armada Optimus Prime to go with CW Armada Megatron would be amazing.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Looks ok, not great and also he turns into gun so that sucks.

how does him turning into a gun suck? that's his g1 alt mode....what where you expecting a **** my little pony?

VioMeTriX wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Looks ok, not great and also he turns into gun so that sucks.

how does him turning into a gun suck? that's his g1 alt mode....what where you expecting a **** my little pony?

Just cuz "G1 did it" doesn't mean everyone likes it.

Sabrblade wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Looks ok, not great and also he turns into gun so that sucks.

how does him turning into a gun suck? that's his g1 alt mode....what where you expecting a **** my little pony?

Just cuz "G1 did it" doesn't mean everyone likes it.

I prefer a tank over a gun any day. A Megatron with both modes though would be awesome.

bigcee66 wrote:Couldnt agree more. Im really starting to wonder about some of these 3rd party praises over the Takara models. This (possible) Megatron, Ironhide/Ratchet, Shockwave really comes to mind.

Simply down to preference. To a degree, for me, the overly toon accurate factor that Masterpiece has recently become just does not work for me.

Hellfire looks miles better than Inferno due to dripping with detail. Grapple actually looks better than Inferno as he has a bit more detail and it makes all the difference.

Quakewave was bought years before Shockwave was even announced. He also drips with detail and, in my opinion, is the correct colour of purple. Quakewave just rocks and he has better legs than Takara's Shockwave.

I have Takara Ironhide/Ratchet. They are both exceptional.

Despotron looks miles better than this (supposed) Takara Megs, again in my opinion. I'll know how I feel about Despotron properly tomorrow, when I ought to be able to collect it.

Again, this is just my opinion based on what I want from Masterpiece. This is mostly fostered by what Masterpiece WAS over what it appears to be becoming.

SillySpringer wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Looks ok, not great and also he turns into gun so that sucks.

how does him turning into a gun suck? that's his g1 alt mode....what where you expecting a **** my little pony?

Just cuz "G1 did it" doesn't mean everyone likes it.

I prefer a tank over a gun any day. A Megatron with both modes though would be awesome.

Tank to gun?

Bold Forms is doing one that does exactly that- a triple changer that turns from robot to tank to gun. Only problems are:

1: The gun mode isn't a Walther P38.
2: Bold Forms' last release (Motormaster) was a total disaster.

Big Grim wrote:Again, this is just my opinion based on what I want from Masterpiece. This is mostly fostered by what Masterpiece WAS over what it appears to be becoming.

I agree and I have felt that too. I like having extra detail. MP Wheeljack is a good example. The bot mode looks great but he turns into a more detailed car than what the cartoon had, so he becomes a more realized version of what the Alternators line started. The tracks mold is what really pushed me over the edge into not liking the need for it to look like the show because it took a lazy approach to it. Those leg pannels that give robot mode detail feel so off. They are more like attached add ons rather than integral to the actual toy, and they feel fake.

And Shockwave and Magnus are good examples too. Not a lot of details there.

william-james88 wrote:And Shockwave and Magnus are good examples too. Not a lot of details there.

Shockwave, definitely. Magnus, I'm not too sure. There's a lot of detail on him but it's not really as defined, possibly because he's just so big. There are a goodly number of spots with lotsa detail but you also notice that there are big spaces of flatness which still has detail, It's just they are big and flat too. Wheeljack is perfection! Tracks I like well enough but I agree on the point of the leg panels.

Big Grim wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And Shockwave and Magnus are good examples too. Not a lot of details there.

Shockwave, definitely. Magnus, I'm not too sure. There's a lot of detail on him but it's not really as defined, possibly because he's just so big. There are a goodly number of spots with lotsa detail but you also notice that there are big spaces of flatness which still has detail, It's just they are big and flat too. Wheeljack is perfection! Tracks I like well enough but I agree on the point of the leg panels.

A good example of having nice detail while still looking very G1 could be Legends Blurr too right? I was really impressed by all that sculpted detail and it didnt take away from any of the toy's G1 goodness

william-james88 wrote:

Big Grim wrote:Shockwave, definitely. Magnus, I'm not too sure. There's a lot of detail on him but it's not really as defined, possibly because he's just so big. There are a goodly number of spots with lotsa detail but you also notice that there are big spaces of flatness which still has detail, It's just they are big and flat too. Wheeljack is perfection! Tracks I like well enough but I agree on the point of the leg panels.

A good example of having nice detail while still looking very G1 could be Legends Blurr too right? I was really impressed by all that sculpted detail and it didnt take away from any of the toy's G1 goodness

Not having Legends Blurr I can't give a definitive opinion. I will say that from the various galleries I've seen though, he's a sexy piece of plastic!