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Mykltron wrote:

Burn wrote:

Jazz813 wrote:Well I hope it will be a new toy like Masterpiece G1 Jazz, or Masterpiece G1 Cliffjumper and not a Repaint.

What if it was a white repaint of MP-10 with an all new trailer that he could combine with?

His proportions would be terrible. MP-10 is great but his knees are still too high up and adding to the lower leg would worsen the proportions. Seeing as the animation never showed a white cab 'combining' with the trailer like when RiD OP upgraded they should redesign it so it's more like Titanium UM.

You're assuming that Magnus's armor would merely wrap around the Optimus mold. It would work like the G1 toy, where the whole cab fits in the torso. And MP-10's thighs are longer than MP-1's... it might look better than we think as armor.

Also, why try taking away Magnus's inner robot form? It's a part of G1 too. =D

orangeitis wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

Burn wrote:

Jazz813 wrote:Well I hope it will be a new toy like Masterpiece G1 Jazz, or Masterpiece G1 Cliffjumper and not a Repaint.

What if it was a white repaint of MP-10 with an all new trailer that he could combine with?

His proportions would be terrible. MP-10 is great but his knees are still too high up and adding to the lower leg would worsen the proportions. Seeing as the animation never showed a white cab 'combining' with the trailer like when RiD OP upgraded they should redesign it so it's more like Titanium UM.

You're assuming that Magnus's armor would merely wrap around the Optimus mold. It would work like the G1 toy, where the whole cab fits in the torso. And MP-10's thighs are longer than MP-1's... it might look better than we think as armor.

Also, why try taking away Magnus's inner robot form? It's a part of G1 too. =D

This image tweeted really long ago by one of Takara's designers.

alternator77 wrote:ill laugh my ass off if its ironhide/ratchet

i would cry in pain if its smokescreen/silverstreak/prowl

All are possible candidates just for the sheer repaint value they have.

IF there are MP Ironhide and Ratchets, eHobby's gonna get their green and black repaints.

gavinfuzzy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

Burn wrote:

Jazz813 wrote:Well I hope it will be a new toy like Masterpiece G1 Jazz, or Masterpiece G1 Cliffjumper and not a Repaint.

What if it was a white repaint of MP-10 with an all new trailer that he could combine with?

His proportions would be terrible. MP-10 is great but his knees are still too high up and adding to the lower leg would worsen the proportions. Seeing as the animation never showed a white cab 'combining' with the trailer like when RiD OP upgraded they should redesign it so it's more like Titanium UM.

You're assuming that Magnus's armor would merely wrap around the Optimus mold. It would work like the G1 toy, where the whole cab fits in the torso. And MP-10's thighs are longer than MP-1's... it might look better than we think as armor.

Also, why try taking away Magnus's inner robot form? It's a part of G1 too. =D

This image tweeted really long ago by one of Takara's designers.

Yeah, saw that before. I really hope there'll be leg armor that bulk his thighs up. Their length though is fine, IMO. No shorter than MP-1's proportionally.

gavinfuzzy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

Burn wrote:

Jazz813 wrote:Well I hope it will be a new toy like Masterpiece G1 Jazz, or Masterpiece G1 Cliffjumper and not a Repaint.

What if it was a white repaint of MP-10 with an all new trailer that he could combine with?

His proportions would be terrible. MP-10 is great but his knees are still too high up and adding to the lower leg would worsen the proportions. Seeing as the animation never showed a white cab 'combining' with the trailer like when RiD OP upgraded they should redesign it so it's more like Titanium UM.

You're assuming that Magnus's armor would merely wrap around the Optimus mold. It would work like the G1 toy, where the whole cab fits in the torso. And MP-10's thighs are longer than MP-1's... it might look better than we think as armor.

Also, why try taking away Magnus's inner robot form? It's a part of G1 too. =D

This image tweeted really long ago by one of Takara's designers.

Oh yea, before anyone goes and complains about how stupid and disproportionate (holy sh*t I spelt this right without any help o_0) this looks, it's a mock up concept by the toy designer using a cut up G1 Magnus trailer.

All these talks on MP14 UMagnus really make me drooling Come on TTomy just give me my MP UMagnus V2, I've been waiting since MP2.

Dead Metal wrote:

gavinfuzzy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

Burn wrote:

Jazz813 wrote:Well I hope it will be a new toy like Masterpiece G1 Jazz, or Masterpiece G1 Cliffjumper and not a Repaint.

What if it was a white repaint of MP-10 with an all new trailer that he could combine with?

His proportions would be terrible. MP-10 is great but his knees are still too high up and adding to the lower leg would worsen the proportions. Seeing as the animation never showed a white cab 'combining' with the trailer like when RiD OP upgraded they should redesign it so it's more like Titanium UM.

You're assuming that Magnus's armor would merely wrap around the Optimus mold. It would work like the G1 toy, where the whole cab fits in the torso. And MP-10's thighs are longer than MP-1's... it might look better than we think as armor.

Also, why try taking away Magnus's inner robot form? It's a part of G1 too. =D

This image tweeted really long ago by one of Takara's designers.

Oh yea, before anyone goes and complains about how stupid and disproportionate (holy sh*t I spelt this right without any help o_0) this looks, it's a mock up concept by the toy designer using a cut up G1 Magnus trailer.

Well, if the legs slid into the shell a bit more, it's pretty good IMO.
Now, since they cut up one of their magnus, they probably keep a stash of other G1s somewhere...

gavinfuzzy wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

gavinfuzzy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

Burn wrote:

Jazz813 wrote:Well I hope it will be a new toy like Masterpiece G1 Jazz, or Masterpiece G1 Cliffjumper and not a Repaint.

What if it was a white repaint of MP-10 with an all new trailer that he could combine with?

His proportions would be terrible. MP-10 is great but his knees are still too high up and adding to the lower leg would worsen the proportions. Seeing as the animation never showed a white cab 'combining' with the trailer like when RiD OP upgraded they should redesign it so it's more like Titanium UM.

You're assuming that Magnus's armor would merely wrap around the Optimus mold. It would work like the G1 toy, where the whole cab fits in the torso. And MP-10's thighs are longer than MP-1's... it might look better than we think as armor.

Also, why try taking away Magnus's inner robot form? It's a part of G1 too. =D

This image tweeted really long ago by one of Takara's designers.

Oh yea, before anyone goes and complains about how stupid and disproportionate (holy sh*t I spelt this right without any help o_0) this looks, it's a mock up concept by the toy designer using a cut up G1 Magnus trailer.

Well, if the legs slid into the shell a bit more, it's pretty good IMO.
Now, since they cut up one of their magnus, they probably keep a stash of other G1s somewhere...

I know its just a mock up using a G1 toy but that looks horrible. The legs are too short and an oversized torso. I hope, if they do make Ultra Magnus, they go along the lines of the Titanium where there is no white Optimus Prime and the cab transforms into the trailer like it was shown to do in the show.

I hope they keep Magnus's inner robot form, like the G1 toy and Dreamwave comic had. It would in theory be cheaper to make, since half of it would already be molded. Plus it would add to the toy without taking any aspect that the G1 cartoon version had.

I have assumed since Takara 1st said they would announce MP14 at TOKYO TOY SHOW that is would be ULTRA MAGNUS. They had announced late last year that they were already planning a new MP Ultra Magnus.

I do believe that it will be a white version of MP-10, but they will have his trailer be attachable armor.

It makes the most sense mould wise and cost wise, and with this they could actually have a U.S. Hasbro version released later. Just like they are doing with MP-10.

On a secondary note to all these MP announcements, I would bet money we will see a Sound Blaster repaint of MP-13 Soundwave...

I am very excited for this year and the Transformers. We have so many awsome figures coming to us this year, it is almost too good to be true. I really hope that Takara and Hasbro dont blow it this time.

Why doesn't Red Alert get his own number? Even Prime's trailer got its own number. This is a big conspiracy against Red. Watch MP-14 be Soundblaster.

Omega-1 wrote:Why doesn't Red Alert get his own number? Even Prime's trailer got its own number. This is a big conspiracy against Red. Watch MP-14 be Soundblaster.

Starting with MP-10 the numbering system works a little bit different. First every new character, even as a repaint, got his own number. Now, new molds get their own number it seems, with the exclusive repaints denoted with the first letter of their Japanese name:

MP-11S = Sunstorm
MP-12A = Alert (Red Alert)

Soundblaster would bend that rule a little:

MP-13B = Soundblaster (or Black Soundwave)

We haven't seen major retools like Ultra Magnus yet, so what the rule will be for those remains to be seen.

Masterpiece Prowl would be awesome. That mold would get a lot of mileage with Bluestreak and Smokescreen remolds.

A new Megatron mold is inevitable. That would be amazing if they could finally pull off a great Megatron.

I also hope it's not too long before we get Ironhide and Ratchet.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Omega-1 wrote:Why doesn't Red Alert get his own number? Even Prime's trailer got its own number. This is a big conspiracy against Red. Watch MP-14 be Soundblaster.

Starting with MP-10 the numbering system works a little bit different. First every new character, even as a repaint, got his own number. Now, new molds get their own number it seems, with the exclusive repaints denoted with the first letter of their Japanese name:

MP-11S = Sunstorm
MP-12A = Alert (Red Alert)

Soundblaster would bend that rule a little:

MP-13B = Soundblaster (or Black Soundwave)

We haven't seen major retools like Ultra Magnus yet, so what the rule will be for those remains to be seen.

Red Alert is not just a repaint, he is a retool and also a major character. It looks like he may get his own number afterall.

Omega-1 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Omega-1 wrote:Why doesn't Red Alert get his own number? Even Prime's trailer got its own number. This is a big conspiracy against Red. Watch MP-14 be Soundblaster.

Starting with MP-10 the numbering system works a little bit different. First every new character, even as a repaint, got his own number. Now, new molds get their own number it seems, with the exclusive repaints denoted with the first letter of their Japanese name:

MP-11S = Sunstorm
MP-12A = Alert (Red Alert)

Soundblaster would bend that rule a little:

MP-13B = Soundblaster (or Black Soundwave)

We haven't seen major retools like Ultra Magnus yet, so what the rule will be for those remains to be seen.

Red Alert is not just a repaint, he is a retool and also a major character. It looks like he may get his own number afterall.

Well...major may be a bit of an overstatement.

Counterpunch wrote:Well...major may be a bit of an overstatement.

He did have a whole episode devoted to him. That's more than even Sideswipe got.

I hope it is a retool so that his doors hang down off his shoulders.

And it was a very cracky episode, too.

I can't wait for these. Sideswipe is just so... cool to me. And of course Soundwave!